GT40R NSX build.

Hey guys,
After spending the whole summer with the NSX on NA mode the time has come to turbo the damned thing.

One of Marco's friends will be making the manifolds and piping for the set up at his shop (he just open), he has an NSX that he has turbo and all I can say is that his work is just as good as Marco's.

The weapon of choice is a GT4088R Garrett turbo, managed by an AEM EMS, I have been using the same parts that I used with spike because I know they worked. Suspension, brakes, turbo, ECU are the same I used in my baby.(damn you Bashar);).

The hope are for us to have the car ready by the end of march, probably wont happen but we'll see.

The reason I went with Rob instead of buying a kit is simple, I dont have 17,000 dollars to buy one overprice piece of crap kit, when we have fabricators in Toronto.

The engine has very high millage but excellent compression, we will be looking for 470RWP on 93octane, that is enough for a car that weights 2800lbs(Mine).Next season the engine probably will be built, and then we can look north of 600RWP easy, since everything will be there to take the boost. All 14psi of it LOL ha ha ha!!!

I will keep this thread updated, the car will be going in this week, wish me luck guys.

Here are pics of the parts pile up I have for now.





It looks just like spike`s last winter stash.




-Manuel

Looking forward to hearing about this! Hope to see Rex at Shannonville next year.

These are old pictures. Aren't the parts on Spike?

//edit
Oh nevermind, only the last two are old. I get it.

Why not gt4094r?

What a waste of a pool table! Move the junk off the table!

I dont need to flow anymore than what the 88 does, in that case I would of just gone with a 42 since I have enough roon under the car.
The power from the 88 is awesome linear on the 6 cilynder.

-Manuel

Awesome Manny, I can't wait to see some more updates man!

I see. The car will surely be amazing! I always loved the vid of Ayrton Senna testing the Nsx back in the day.

Yep, I think that was the tipping point for me, knowing that Senna was involved so much in developing the car was key.
Oh and it was blue. lol

-Manuel

Very nice stash manuel This is going to be a killer project, and in a class of its own that's for sure. Looking forward for track days this summer

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Senna was involved heavily in making the NSX's original chassis more rigid, and less flexible, hence creating the "NSX-R" in later NSX years...

Wow; can't wait to see that on ThaTrack.

Keep feeding us the pics.

GizThaWiz!!!

I get first dibs when Manuel posts this car for sale in May.



I saw Robs NSX and he did a great job on his. Runs and sounds great. He seems to know a thing or two about these cars.

Can't wait to see your car with all those parts on it.

Thad is so funny, it's like you read my mind.
It has cross my mind at least once, can't wait too take it out for a rip.

I'll keep posted.

-Manuel

Hey guys, I dropped the car off at Rob's on wednesday finally to go under the nife, while there I did a little photoshoot.
Enjoy,
























[img]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e120/talongsx/NSX/DSC_2227.jpg[/img]

-Manuel

*drool*

Awesome!

Hey Mani, see if anybody knows about a dark coloured (darkpurple/black) NSX with the plates "2ndwife". I ran into him on the 401 a few years back

Loving the headlights on the Yellow one, and the underside of that black one is simply intense. Looks like Rex is in good company!

Well Manny, you've definitely stepped up in the world of cars!

Looks good man!

The gold one is an 02+ hence the headlights.

Hey Kev, Ill lurk around and see who has thos plates.


Thanks guys,

Catch you later,

-Manuel

Is that gold one Jeffreys?

Yes it is, Rob has it at the shop now, it will be going back Marco's some time soon.

-Manuel

One more.

If you squint just right you can make out a Brightside decal on manuels car! hehehehe

Rob's going to love his new rims. There going to looh amazing on that car. Tell him to come pick them up!

Brightside, FTW.....Bitches.

Meh, You call him.

so badass

I'm not the hugest fan of the NSX but those look nice. I especially like the gold one.

What's there not to like about them???............Other then their lack of power

I really dislike the tail lights, but the front of the car is gorgeous

NSX's are definatly great looking all around
Nothing a 1GB conversion cant fix lol..

That wont be a problem anymore.... REX!!!

The gold look nice for a couple hours, after a while it gives you an eye sore.

I love REX's color combo and the whole car in general I like the front the back the inside everything, but if a GT3RS shows on my driveway Ill dump the NSX LOL (Maybe someday).
I have just started on this car, when I am finish with it, it will look meaner and more agressive than Spike and that is something....

Thanks for the comments guys, now go back and those cars ready for this season.

-Manuel

Update!! not that you care, LOL.

You guys know things never go smooth or straight up right?
Well this was no exception.

We were ready to start fab'ing the manifold and charge pipes but after Rob (JDM-R shop owner) pulled the stock exhaust there was a bunch of oil everywere, so now the engine has to come down and while we are in there the clutch will be replace and the timing belt and all the gaskets and seals,the engine it self is nice and strong, at least I wont have to shell 15,000 for a new one....for now, LOL.

Anyways, here a couple pics of the underneath of the car looked.

-Manuel

Too bad to hear about the engine! But at least it's getting the right treatment

Sucks to hear Manny but at least she'll be 100% when she's all done.

Hey Manny! Car looks good, Robbie will take really good care of you! I still remember his car on the dyno, the sounds, I cant even begin to describe how it sounds. Cant complain about 475whp though Very fast street car.

Thank you guys this project will take longer than I thought but it will be worthed in the end, Ill take you guys for a spin when is done!! .


Yes Chris,Robbie knows he's stuff for sure.

-MSR

Why does the engine have to be dropped? Whats leaking?

That's pretty awesome. I'm going to enjoy following this thread, so make sure you update us!

2003-2005 GT3s are quite affordable these days in the US. And with the Canadian dollar expected to pass the US dollar by the summer, you might want to think about it. That's probably when I'll grab my evo.

That's the goal Peter , a well done turbo nsx is worthed good money, so we'll see.

Ian,
the valve covers are leaking, the vtec selenoid and we want to check the main too, plus the engine would favor from a nice general clean up, new clutch and water pump.

-Manuel

Hey Manuel, How many KMs, are on the car.. Just curious

270,000, leak down compression perfect.

-Manuel

Wow, thats a lot of klicks to be shoving boost through; but I wish you luck and good fortune!

Nahh, it'll be just fine, it's only 9psi , nothing hardcore it it just has to clear this season.
A full built will be coming next winter , if I don't sell it first.

It's a Honda nothing it can't handle.
Looking great Manuel, almost as good s spike will be

DO ITTTTTT!

There's one of these on my street. Good Lord it's beautiful.

Thats is sexi isn't, But thats not an RS.
Not I can affort anytime soon, maybe a couple years.
I want it in black and green.....

-MSR

Hey guys, Its been a while.
Here is a load down on whats been happening with the NSX.

By the end of march last year Rob had replace Timing belt, water pump, every seal and gasket, and a full once over on the transmission and a 450f/t clutch was installed too.
The oil pan was baffled and bunged ready for the turbo, also headers and the whole coolant hose assambly was redone with higer grade hoses, just on like the dsm's I did the SS clutch line upgrade eleminating the reservoir.

By then I had run out of money and the season was already here, and I want it track the car so I pulled it out of the shop.

Before hitting the track I installed a set of stoptech's and race pads(what a diference), also alot of suspension work has been done, the last thing I did is taking down the rear beem that holds the engine and intall aluminum bushings, so the specs dont get trown of under hard braking, install a newly rebuilt JIC suspension and corner balance the car.

The car its AMAZING on the track, its handle beatiful.
By the time I end up getting track worthy( for me), I was able to run it three time on the track, but every single time I got more confident and more settle in the car.

This winter,
Well I had to finished what I started last season, Remember that turbo kits for the NSX go from up to 17,000 bucks, why I dont know, Fortunally a Canadian steped up and make a kit available for about half that price, of course there were some upgrades I had to do to the kit, like SS lines, precision wastegate and of course the 40R.

Kit arrive two nights ago and will be installing it as soon as the weather gets a bit warmer.


(most pics are from the iPhone sorry)
here are a couple pics of what has happened in the last year.
engine out:



Engine put back together,



Transmision out and apart,



RPS Clutch,



engine and transmision back in, and a look from underneath,



Engine bay,



Out of the shop,


And finally at work,



as it seats right now,





Pakage arrived,




cold side:

[img]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e120/talongsx/NSX/Boostpictures604.jpg[/img]


Hot side:

[img]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e120/talongsx/NSX/Boostpictures607.jpg[/img]


[img]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e120/talongsx/NSX/Boostpictures609.jpg[/img]


Ill keep you guys up to date on install and tune.

-Manuel

That's a beautiful setup Manuel.

Really gorgeous car, looks amazing.

Yes; defenately a nice Sled.

You will have to let me know when you drive up this way for a few Laps; I'll make sure that I bring my Helmet along and a fresh set of underwear!!!

Ghislain

Looks great Manny!

Thank guys, glad you like.

Gizzss ta wizzz, I'll pick you up next track day.

-Manuel

I consider that a "date".

A date it is.

So the stock seats were not leaving up to expectations, they were ripped at the bolsters and at the track the leather would make you slide all over the place.

So I gave in and bought this ones:







They better hold me in.
-Manuel

I had these seats in my car. they hug you like a glove. just make sure you dont have anyone with a big ass sit in them.

Hey guys, well with thiiis cold weather and then taking a trip I have not being able to advance on the car too much.
Plus there is always little problems and thing never go smooth anyways, here are a couple pics of how the set up looks.

I should be bolting this up under the car tomorrow.


-Manuel

Those seats give me motivation to lose my big ass

Can't wait to see it installed Manny.

Not a fan of the square tube and flatbar
for bracing
Hope it looks better installed

Don't worry chris, the cradle will not show.
Is design to tuck under nicely, you have to imagine looking at it from underneath, I still like it thoug, it's made of SS and the welds are nice tight.

I know what ya sayin' Anthony, I lost ten lbs my self to make I feel nice and snug


-Manuel

Oh how I wish I only had 10lbs to lose. I need to lose a whole person LOL.

I wish I was still in TO so I could drool over your car in person once it's finished.

So the turbo goes under the car, that car is already super low, how much clearance is there going to be?

Lots of clearance, beleave me.

My rear diffuser will cover the whole thing from underneath too.

The turbo kit actually tucks in, youll see.

We bolted it in today (Steve and I)
Just running lines and crap now.

-Manuel

So... I'll pick you up this Saturday Gizxxzz?

I wish; we catering an event at one of the County Winery...

Maybe some day.

Have fun.

Ghislain

Manuel, we've never met before but I saw your NSX in action this past weekend at Shannonville. Nice car!

At one point in the pits your car was spewing blue smoke. What was going on?

This was my first track event in about 8yrs. I long retired but I'm getting the bug back. Unfortunately, all my track-worthy cars are long gone. I tried lapping with a fwd 4-banger with no lsd, all-season tires, and hawk hps pads. Needless to say, I NEED A TRACK CAR!

See ya around and continued success with the build. Cheers.

Jason, i was there that evening also. What car were you in? i had the mini with the multi coloured wheels

Hey Jason, you should of came over.
The smoke coming from the car was oil left over in the exhaust , from when my scavenge pump got plugged when I was putting the car together.

After few more laps the it stopped burning/smoking.

The car is fast but it will take some seat time for me to understand it better.
I was on completely different gears on every corner compered to when the car was NA. And I was faster NA Than now being turbo... But it was only a shake down , making sure boost levels stay and making sure no there was no leaks in general.

Next event should fun, the speed is there just got to find the guts to push it

-Manuel

If you're afraid to push it I'll gladly take one for the team and do it for you

awe, i wanna see that thing. You going this saturday?

Mike: The one with the green and pink wheels on the passenger side? The pics are up on Touge now!

Yeah Manuel, same thing...for my car I wasn't sure to do some turns in 3rd or 2nd. I got the hang of it later but by that time my tires were done!

I've seen the pics of your NSX on here a long time ago and since I've never met you guys before, I wasn't sure if that was you because I think you were selling the car at one point? I didn't want to look like an idiot and ask you if you were from Club DSM. lol.

Nahh, Cayuga is too small and they can't organized it right.
I Just want to put more time at shannonville so I can get more comfortable and eventually only do Mosport .

Yeah, just comeover next time Jason.

-MSR

Don't bother with Mosport DDT. The driver development track is really small and narrow. Stick with the big track!

I know, here is a vid of a shake down at shannonville before turbo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvxxxj-5t6E

The DDT is a fantastic track and will make one a better driver a lot quicker than the big track will. The big track is one of the fastest circuits around, bar none...if you're going to push it there, you better damn well know your cars limits already because there's absolutely no forgiveness there.

DDT has elevation changes, all sorts of different turns, and you can hit decent speeds (in that NSX...probably ~200). The beauty of that track is that cars that would die out on the big track can give the powerful cars a run for their money if the driver is good enough. Alternatively, it teaches drivers with powerful cars how to really handle the power.

My 2 Cents.

Been to DDT a couple times, lots of traffic and people bitch when you pass them in a "non passing zone" after they been holding you back for half a lap or so.


I will probably try again.

-MSR

It all comes down to what group you go with. DDT is a great track but a shitty group will ruin any track experience, regardless of the track.

Went to DDT CC configuration , at first I was struggling with massive understeer , the car just did not wanted to turn and turbo was pretty much useless at this track.
But by the end of the day after playing with the suspension and tire pressures I got the car step out just enough, in the last laps I was able to get out of the corners extremely neutral with so much room to keep pushing, but there was not enough track

All in all, great day,
Car was realible too.

-Manuel

Hey guys,

Today I went to my last track day of the season, it has been a great year.

Here are a couple pics and videos of the season.

-Manuel






















Non turbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvxxxj-5t6E





Turbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_mmJwhD6E0

Manuel, I'm curious why you chose to go with the GT4088 instead of the HTA35?

Looks like a lot of fun. Love the car!

Hey Kev, how you been!! we got to meet some time bro.


I choosed the 40R because of the linear power that I can use at bigger tracks like Mosport and Shannonville.

But, I will be doing the CSCS time attack next season, so I will moving down to a 6262.

Its your turbo T4 based?

-Manuel

Before I switched to the HTA3586, the 6262 wasnt available in T4. But it has been more than a year now. Precision also has new designed turbine wheels, so they may even have them in T4 now. It should work really well with your extra displacement!

We'll definetly hook up sometime over the winter.

mm mmmm, I love the 6262!

Didn't see that part. No sir, DSM footprint and couldnt be happier! I've done the T3, Divided T4, and now with the FP housing my car hasnt pulled harder! I didnt lose any topend going from a T4 70mm to the bolt-on 62mm (HTA3586), BUT gained a $hit-load of mid range