Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion
Posted By: James Karban
Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 12:30 am UTC
For those that haven't seen the car before, it was a 1995 Talon awd converted into a 97 Eclipse. I drove it all winter with 5 different colors and now it's time to paint it.
I decided that if i'm going to spend any money on paint I want it done properly, but I don't have 8 grand to spend on a proper job. To solve the money problem, I decided to do all the prep work myself and strip all the paint off down to the bare metal. Paint will be done by the body shop.
Here are some pictures of the progress so far.
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 12:31 am UTC
Posted By: Louis Savard
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 12:33 am UTC
eeek the chemical stripper....make sure you tell them you used it otherwise you'll have some nasty surprises in the not too distant future...
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 12:35 am UTC
It's going to be sanded down to bare metal, and properly washed before it goes to the shop and they will be doing the final prep.
Also there were over 7 layers of paint on the car!! repainted atleast twice and the paint chipped so easily there was no way it could painted again. Every rubber seal has been removed, so there is no place the stipper can hide to haunt me later!
Posted By: Louis Savard
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 12:40 am UTC
Stripping it was definitely the right thing to do. Its just that if some stripper dries up in the creases or anywhere, the second it gets water to it....well you know what it does
Just don't want you to spend double the amount after having done all that work.
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 12:43 am UTC
What do you suggest I wash the car with once it's all sanded? Is there a special liquid I should buy or do I just wash it with water properly?
Posted By: Louis Savard
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 12:50 am UTC
I wouldn't recommend any water at all as it is going to be bare steel. Once you're done with the sanding, blow it all completely. Go by some Wax and Grease remover at Napa (otherwise called Final-Wash or final-Wipe), wash the whole car with it. The proper way to do it is to have 2 rags, soak one rag with the cleaner, wipe an area and using the second dry rag, dry it up right away. Repeat on the whole car.
When you bring it to the body shop, tell them what you did and tell them you used a chemical stripper and washed the car with final-wash but thought they should know about the chemical stripper.
That should do it
Just don't use water.
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 12:55 am UTC
ok thanks!
Posted By: Mark Magnoli
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 01:01 am UTC
I like how you got the mailman to help you
... no wonder my packages are always late ....
Just kidding .. I'm assuming that's your old man. Nice father and son bonding!!
Posted By: Tara Matthews
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 01:28 am UTC
looking good!!! Can't wait to see more!!
Posted By: Mike Palome
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 02:03 am UTC
How long does it take to strip down a door lets say? How many hours have you put in it so far? It looks good so far are you also going to spray primer on it.
Posted By: Steve Kogon
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 07, 2009 02:59 am UTC
keep it up bud she will be nice one day
Posted By: Anthony Hiscock
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 08, 2009 02:43 pm UTC
Very nice man.
Posted By: Ian Burnside
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 08, 2009 09:45 pm UTC
I'm thinking about doing the same to my car before i send it out to be painted. I'm going to be getting it towed back to ryans tonight, pictures to follow.
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 08, 2009 10:16 pm UTC
The car is now about 90% done, only one door left. Every inch of the exterior has been taken to bare metal. Every piece of trim including all the windwos have been removed. It has been cleaned twice with degreaser and sanded down twice also.
I've decided to get the car painted in the Lancer Evo Graphite Gray - A39 MZ313354 color.
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11014&page=2i'll post up the rest of the pictures tommorow before it's goes off to the body shop.
Posted By: Louis Savard
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 10, 2009 04:50 am UTC
How's it coming? Can't wait to see your hard work pay off!
Posted By: Anthony Hiscock
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 10, 2009 05:09 am UTC
Wow, that's a nice color.
Can't wait to see it.
Posted By: Mike Lane
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 10, 2009 05:17 am UTC
If you dont mind telling us see what the shop would have charged vs what they actually end up charging.
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 11, 2009 12:36 am UTC
Posted By: Ryan Laliberte
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 11, 2009 11:46 am UTC
Looking good James, next you'll have to sink some money in your interior to clean it up!
Posted By: ruben silva
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 11, 2009 01:43 pm UTC
The cars interior is fine just a bit dirty from all the sanding soon this car is gona look good with the new paintjob.
Posted By: Mike Palome
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 13, 2009 11:39 pm UTC
How much are they charging you for the paint job.
Posted By: Taylor Cowan
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 21, 2009 03:20 am UTC
Youve left me hanging on this, update james.
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 21, 2009 03:39 pm UTC
I'll update everything once I get the car back from paint. The total is going to be $1800 which includes new trim for all windows and a new windshield and better quality paint.
Posted By: EK
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 21, 2009 03:49 pm UTC
That's really reasonable! Looking forward to seeing it completed.
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 24, 2009 11:27 pm UTC
Posted By: Murtaza Saadat
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 25, 2009 12:54 am UTC
You should just sand it to the metal and clear coat it... Delorean style
Posted By: Derrek Youngs
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 25, 2009 02:11 am UTC
^^^ thats what im doing to my laser right now:)
Posted By: Mike Lane
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 25, 2009 02:38 am UTC
uhhh what about the plastic parts???
Posted By: Taylor Cowan
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 25, 2009 03:16 am UTC
when you see, it will all make sense
Posted By: Derrek Youngs
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 25, 2009 03:20 am UTC
^^yea
Posted By: Mike Lane
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 25, 2009 03:22 am UTC
Well in that case it better make sense AND look good
because Im really not understanding
Posted By: Taylor Cowan
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - May 25, 2009 03:30 am UTC
good its a secret, now shhh
Feed us updates
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - June 03, 2009 01:52 am UTC
I took a look at the car a few days ago, it is fully primed now, i'd imagine it should be done by the end of the week. I'll post pictures once I get it back.
Posted By: Louis Savard
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - June 03, 2009 01:54 am UTC
Taking their time huh
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 17, 2009 07:44 pm UTC
I just realized these pictures are really overdue! I'll have them up tonight. The car looks excellent!
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 17, 2009 09:38 pm UTC
Posted By: Ryan Laliberte
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 17, 2009 09:45 pm UTC
Looks great James!
Posted By: ruben silva
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 17, 2009 10:06 pm UTC
looking good james gotta go for a ride in it sometime!
Posted By: EK
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 17, 2009 10:59 pm UTC
turned out really nice! Hot car!
Posted By: Tim Grechin
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 17, 2009 11:36 pm UTC
Fix the fender / hood gap.
Posted By: Mike Lane
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 18, 2009 04:08 am UTC
Definatley looking good, but agreed, fix that fender. Looks more like the front corner of the fender needs to be moved down?? If that is possible.
Posted By: Charles Kisielewski
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 18, 2009 05:04 pm UTC
Definatley looking good, but agreed, fix that fender. Looks more like the front corner of the fender needs to be moved down?? If that is possible.
Pretty sure is more of a matter of simply adjusting the rubber cushion(stopper) for the hood upward slightly.
Posted By: Mike Lane
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 18, 2009 05:32 pm UTC
I know that that is adjustable, and may be part of the problem. But my hood is very close/tight to the headligts, and doesnt have a problem. And I m not shure if it was a bolting problem, but there is a small gap between the fender and bumper. Looks like the bumper couldnt go any higher because the headlight is in the way. Almost like the fender just wasnt bolted on quite right.
Posted By: James Karban
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 18, 2009 05:34 pm UTC
It's fixed now, the rubber needed to raised. The bumper was missing the metal spacer, and the bottom fender bolts had to be tightened.
Posted By: Jay Warwick (Pham)
Re: Prep/Paint Full 97 Eclipse Conversion - July 19, 2009 03:01 am UTC
James, that turned out awesome!
Great job. I wish I had the patience for this.