I put the car officially into storage on the 31st, so now the winter project begins.
I've been planning to wire tuck for a couple years, but something else always came up. I think this is the first year I put it away with absolutely nothing to fix on it, so now is the time.
I'm sure I'll find some other things to clean up as well, more powder coating for sure.
Re: Winter Project - November 06, 201202:47 pm UTC
I'm using polyester wrap around sleeving, no need to remove the connectors, flame and heat resistant. I'll probably throw a black zip tie on here and there to make sure it keeps closed.
Re: Winter Project - November 06, 201207:16 pm UTC
This is a good inspiration for me! I have already gutted my interior, Dash, seats, console, carpet, headliner, sunroof and all. I m starting by moving the battery to the trunk and cleaning up unused and unnecessary wires (antenna, CD changer, ect). I was contemplating relocating the fusebox. Maybe I ll put mine where the battery used to be. Looking good, keep the pics coming.
Re: Winter Project - November 08, 201212:56 am UTC
It's a thermoplastic they line the walls of the tube with. Very Readily availiable at any parts store. It used to be almost triple the price of regular stuff, but I havent paid for it for many years
Re: Winter Project - November 08, 201203:33 am UTC
adhesive backed heat shrink tubing. We get it from ATS( I think) Sorry when i say parts store I don't mean CTC or parts source. I will double check with are parts guy tomorrow for you Salomon.
Re: Winter Project - November 08, 201204:45 am UTC
Originally Posted by Stephen Richardson
adhesive backed heat shrink tubing. We get it from ATS( I think) Sorry when i say parts store I don't mean CTC or parts source. I will double check with are parts guy tomorrow for you Salomon.
Awesome...thanks! I may do some wire tucking over the winter, so it'll be nice to have this stuff.
Re: Winter Project - November 09, 201212:56 am UTC
Salomon. We buy it in bulk from a supplier called Wurth. They come in 2 foot lengths. We used to get from ATS but the price is better from Wurth. My parts guy said he thinks Napa also carries it but the come in 3 inch sections and are more expensive.
If you want tell me what size you want and i can order it.
Re: Winter Project - February 11, 201308:54 pm UTC
They must have just raised the price, the XL was 999.00 not long ago. I was stuck between that green xl and the 71hta, and i went with the 71hta. They were the same price at the time.
Re: Winter Project - February 11, 201310:16 pm UTC
Ya, except that not long ago turbos not much smaller than that (the EVO III) were selling for $499.USD, and the FP manifold often comes on sale for $175. shipped...so it is still DOUBLE what it cost about a year or so ago...
Re: Winter Project - February 11, 201310:21 pm UTC
Super happy I bought my E316g when Mitsu made another big batch, I believe I scored mine for around $750 with tax a few years back and I grabbed a HAFE manifold for a steal (SB was getting rid of discontinued stock I think).
Re: Winter Project - February 11, 201310:26 pm UTC
Originally Posted by Terry Sikora
Super happy I bought my E316g when Mitsu made another big batch, I believe I scored mine for around $750 with tax a few years back and I grabbed a HAFE manifold for a steal (SB was getting rid of discontinued stock I think).
Thanks RTM!
Got my E316G also from RTM for around the same price
Re: Winter Project - February 12, 201312:48 am UTC
Even the 68HTA that they are currently selling for $1300. only cost about $800. a year or so ago. FP is just driving up the pricing of turbos like crazy.
Looks good Jason. Do you have to extend ECU wiring for this to work? Could this new location cause more water/moisture deposits? Possibly corroding that connector
My wiring harness is currently all taken apart for a wire tuck and the wiring for the coil is definitely long enough. All of the oem connectors are sealed as far as I'm aware. It's a summer car anyway, I can't foresee any issues.
My wiring harness is currently all taken apart for a wire tuck and the wiring for the coil is definitely long enough. All of the oem connectors are sealed as far as I'm aware. It's a summer car anyway, I can't foresee any issues.
I had issue with this type of connector for HID leveling sensor in RX8. Overtime water found its way in through the holes were wires fed through and corroded connector on the inside. Adding some type of sealant there is probably a good idea. Just my 0.02 cents.
BTW, do you have access to your own powder paint equipment?
My wiring harness is currently all taken apart for a wire tuck and the wiring for the coil is definitely long enough. All of the oem connectors are sealed as far as I'm aware. It's a summer car anyway, I can't foresee any issues.
BTW, do you have access to your own powder paint equipment?
Being behind the motor, fairly high up, I don't foresee a problem, some dielectric grease would probably make it 100% worry free.
So how does the wire tuck work? Are you splicing in new lengths of wire where you need length or does everything reach OK? Or are you re-wiring all the way to the ECU? It looks hot, I just hate touching wiring if I don't have to for fear of a difficult to diagnose bad connection.
Don't waist your time with dielectric grease unless it for the back of the connector. Dielectric grease is an insulator not a conducter. It is used on connections that are not already weather packed ( the little rubber socks and orings in the connector) you will have no problems unless you have tampered with the actual terminal and connector.
So how does the wire tuck work? Are you splicing in new lengths of wire where you need length or does everything reach OK? Or are you re-wiring all the way to the ECU? It looks hot, I just hate touching wiring if I don't have to for fear of a difficult to diagnose bad connection.
So far everything has been ok with the stock length, even with the fuse box dropped down in the fender. I'm only going back to the firewall, I've removed wiring that I will never use again, but there is a small stub remaining which is labelled in case I ever need it.
So how does the wire tuck work? Are you splicing in new lengths of wire where you need length or does everything reach OK? Or are you re-wiring all the way to the ECU? It looks hot, I just hate touching wiring if I don't have to for fear of a difficult to diagnose bad connection.
If he had moved the fuse box to the cabin like I did then he would of had to extend more wires. As long so you do a good soldering job and use adhesive lined heat shrink you will be ok.
I just completed moving my fuse box to the trunk, I had to extend the Headlight,horn,rad fan,turn signals and the oil sensors but all the other wires (20 or so of them) did not have to be extended as they had enough length.
Jason..Instead of running a vacuum block (which can be inconsistent to feed everything) you could try putting multiple npt barb fittings on the back of the manifold, thats the route I plan on taking.
The other idea I had in my head was to tap the ends of the rail that the PCV valve connects into on the manifold, one end to feed the BOV and the other end for the AFPR and map sensor.
If that MAP sensor is for SD, I would give it a dedicated line (as short as possible) instead of having it share with the AFPR.
+1, dedicated lines for the important hardware is important if you want accuracy and less vacuum related issues. BOV...FPR...Brake Booster...and MAP sensor should never share vacuum sources.
Ok, I've popped the little freeze plugs out of the ends -> very, very easy to do. It's sized perfectly inside to be tapped NPT.
So I will come off the right side with a 1/4 npt line and break will T into two 1/8" barbed fittings, the other end will be a barbed fitting directly in the end. This rail is large inside and connected to all 4 runners, I can't foresee any issues sharing it this way. Last year my AFPR/MAP/boost gauge all shared one vacuum hose with no ill effects that I could see, it has to be an improvement over this.
I'm not going to throw tons of effort into this. When my 6 bolt block is completed, I have a fresh rebuilt 1g head to go along with it and will most likely run either a Magnus cast intake or some other SMIM.
So how does the wire tuck work? Are you splicing in new lengths of wire where you need length or does everything reach OK? Or are you re-wiring all the way to the ECU? It looks hot, I just hate touching wiring if I don't have to for fear of a difficult to diagnose bad connection.
So far everything has been ok with the stock length, even with the fuse box dropped down in the fender. I'm only going back to the firewall, I've removed wiring that I will never use again, but there is a small stub remaining which is labelled in case I ever need it.
Could you post a picture of how you tucked the injector wires? it would help me out if you could.
This is probably the best view I can get, they are pointed downwards and run between runners. I don't think this works with the coil pack and igniter in the stock locations.
thanks! The route you have taken with your shave/tuck is eerily similar to what my path is. Wire routing will not be a problem I just wanted to see how you redirected the wires.
It Y's direct from the o2 housing, when it's open some still goes out the back, but most comes out the side as it's the path of least resistance of course.
I seen it done using a wastegate actuator. Controled with a mbc. He had it setto15psi. rarely ever heard it. You shoudnt be pushing 15psi on the street anyway...
Not to go too far off .. but i been driving around trying to avoid opening my external wastegate in town.(14psi). and I think ive became a more mature driver.. and saved a bit of gas.
Not to go too far off .. but i been driving around trying to avoid opening my external wastegate in town.(14psi). and I think ive became a more mature driver.. and saved a bit of gas.
Went to the local 1/8th mile track last night, first runs of the year, best run was 8.01 @ 99MPH @ 25 psi, spinning like crazy off the line off every run. Track prep was ZERO and it was far too cold. My best run last year on that track was 7.86 @ 96 @ 28 psi, so the car is definitely faster, I just need to hook up.
Ya I ended up going with a 2 core instead of a 3, I'm going to likely keep the stock fan on the passenger side and put a slim on the front on the driver side. I logged a spirited run up the highway and it's staying much cooler than the stock rad did.
I also put some weather stripping on the stock fan shroud so it sealed up good to the rad, there was a good 1/8-1/4 inch gap without it.
I also put some weather stripping on the stock fan shroud so it sealed up good to the rad, there was a good 1/8-1/4 inch gap without it.
Good idea, I also did it. Do you keep your fans always running or is it automatic? I don't see any AC lines and AC condenser seems to be missing. That should help with the airflow.
I also put some weather stripping on the stock fan shroud so it sealed up good to the rad, there was a good 1/8-1/4 inch gap without it.
Good idea, I also did it. Do you keep your fans always running or is it automatic? I don't see any AC lines and AC condenser seems to be missing. That should help with the airflow.
AC is deleted. Fans are on auto.
I've been battling weird idle and WOT issues for a few days, tune would be perfect, afr's between 11.2-11.5 then the next pull would be more around 12 and I'd get knock. So this morning I did a BLT, biss screw was leaking like a sieve, took care of that with a new o-ring, then pulled off the vacuum line to the Fuelab AFPR and gas started pouring out the line.
So I dismantled it and found a rip in the diaphragm, small but not good!
Good troubleshooting Jason, How many kms was on your FPR before diaphragm ripped? Thank god Ziggy sells just the diaphragm . Does your FPR hold pressure after engine off?
Good troubleshooting Jason, How many kms was on your FPR before diaphragm ripped? Thank god Ziggy sells just the diaphragm . Does your FPR hold pressure after engine off?
Not sure how many km's but 3 years so probably around 15k per year, so a few. It still holds for a little while after it shut off, not like it did before though.
This FPR and many like it had an issue where the ball didn't seat quite right and new from the factory they wouldn't hold pressure for more than a minute. I took it apart and used some lapping compound to make it seat properly and it would hold for a good 15-30 minutes afterwards.
I could have got it cheaper in the US, but I know Ziggy would get it to me quicker.
So, since the board has been down, Ziggy sent me those missing fittings(thanks!) and I installed the kit, then went out to do some tuning, the car pulled really hard, far more than ever before. After about 30 minutes of tuning, this was the result.
ouch! I bet that made a hell of a sound and felt even worse! Are you AWD or FWD? I have a spare parts tranny that I should be breaking into in the near near future.
Actually, it didn't make any noise during the pull, but it sounded really bad as soon as I let off the gas.
I'm trying to work a deal with a local for another tranny, if that doesn't work out I might send this off to Jack's for a 2.2HD rebuild. It's a big chunk of change to drop but I intend to keep racing this car so I might as well go big I think.
On the log before the blow up, the Ecmlink log showed 397hp, I added a bunch more timing on the blow up pull, so it should have been more but I forgot to save the log.
Hopefully I'll get things sorted out there and get it on the dyno sometime this summer.
So I've been thinking it over, contemplating buying another stock trans, risking blowing it up again or going all out and not have to keep worrying about it all the time. I do plan to race the car and it will likely continue to be pushed further.
One of my friends had a Jack's rebuild and loved it. He did manage to break it with his 2.3 stroker and FP 3076HTA but Jack's honored his warranty and fixed it at no cost.
I think you'll be very happy with Jack's tranny, if you decide to go that route. I'm doing my best to try and save for one myself, with plans to buy it next winter or spring.
It definitely seems like you'll be seeing enough power and track time to justify it
No, actually I liked the embossed mitsu emblem on the oem bumper, but that bumper has seen it's time, so many stone chips and gouges on the bottom edge from 16 years of abuse.
This one will be paint matched to the car, should have it back in a week or 2. I gave the body shop my gas cap door so they can do an exact match on the paint.
Also started on my calipers. I painted them about 3 years ago and they are certainly looking like it, hundreds of track passes and thousands of miles later.
Started to strip them down.
Apparently the Baer logo is filled with some sort of rubbery coating, very thick and the sandblast won't touch it, had to cut them out with a knife.
You planning on using the pressure switch to trigger the meth injection? If so, I'd recommend ditching it & using link to control it, much better setup IMO.
You planning on using the pressure switch to trigger the meth injection? If so, I'd recommend ditching it & using link to control it, much better setup IMO.
I ran it for a bit off the pressure switch, seemed to work fine, but yes the plan was to upgrade to V3 and use link, that's why I didn't buy the progressive kit.
You planning on using the pressure switch to trigger the meth injection? If so, I'd recommend ditching it & using link to control it, much better setup IMO.
I ran it for a bit off the pressure switch, seemed to work fine, but yes the plan was to upgrade to V3 and use link, that's why I didn't buy the progressive kit.
Ya, nothing wrong with the basic pressure switch, I ran mine like that for a few summers. Just that Link offers more options/conditions, instead of the basic pressure regulated, on/off control. Its just as easy to hook up (actually maybe easier), but not everyone is aware it has this option, so just making sure
My roll stops are welded solid already, these were just filled with urethane but they had started to crack and look like crap even though they were still fairly firm, so I figured now is the time to coat the mounts and get the prothanes.
I got the Baer's direct from them about 5 or 6 years ago.
I honestly don't find them to be bad. I had the roll stops just filled with my previous motor with no balance shafts, it had some vibration, got used to it very quickly.
Now with this motor with balance shafts and the solid roll stops, I find it to be smoother, much less vibration.
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I'll be picking up the tranny Monday, and hopefully the car will be rolling Tuesday
In the mean time I did a few more little things, changed another CV boot, not that it was torn, but it was a universal boot, switched it for an oem.
Rebuilt my oem slave, was fine but I figured now is the time to do it.
Also mounted a 10" slim fan, I didn't have any cooling issues with the main oem fan, but I want assurance for the long ride to Norwalk that I wouldn't have any issues.
You can keep fans always on and use cabin heater fan to battle heat in case of emergency. On the side note, I see you still using manual boost controller. Have you thought about switching to ECU boost control?
So far so good, took it for about a 20 minute drive, everything feels good, tried a couple NLTS shifts at 6500rpm, went in like butter, the shifter feels very firm, but good. Gonna take a little getting used to the welded center diff though.
NLTS shifts at 6500 with a 20 min drive? Jacks doesn't have some sort of break in procedure like the other tranny shops? Usually they don't want you to beat on them till the gears & the syncho's bed in.
NLTS shifts at 6500 with a 20 min drive? Jacks doesn't have some sort of break in procedure like the other tranny shops? Usually they don't want you to beat on them till the gears & the syncho's bed in.
I read through the whole packet of papers they sent me, there is ZERO mention of babying it for X miles. To be fair, it was 2 shifts at the end of the 20 minutes, I didn't just go right out and beat it in the first 100 feet.
Engine break-in & tranny break-in are not the same
Think they normally recommend ~1000 miles of easy shifting. Synchro's need to bed in for proper operation (likely won't shift all that great until this happens). Gears also need to bed in to each other for optimal power handling.
TRE say no launches & hard/fast shifting for a min of 500 miles (when you should first change the oil). And will take ~2000 miles before best shifting is achieved.
The 10 or so page document included with this transmission has zero mention of milage for break-in, lots on clutch adjustment, oils, inspecting it, etc but like I said, not one mention of no hard shifts for x-miles or anything along those lines.
That being said, I don't plan on beating the crap out of it either, I'm going to do some cruising tonight, should put on 100+ miles easily. I don't know if I will race at the shootout or not, likely not.
I usually recommend 5000km of break in on all the trannies I build with regular Canadian tire gear oil. You will notice the fluid slightly silver from the break in. It's normal, especially with tighter preloads and newer parts. The more you change the oil, the more cleaner it gets.
I wouldn't worry about the 6500 rpm NLTS, just try not to be too aggressive with it. You can obviously use NLTS and shift super slow or just slam it in. I don't even consider that high rpm
Re: Winter Project - September 01, 201304:40 pm UTC
After killing my second wideband sensor I bit the bullet and picked up a heatsink for it. I used to have a homemade copper heatsink when I had the Megan tubular o2 housing but it didn't fit right on the evo 3 o2 so I took a chance and ran without it, of course I paid the price.
This is directional and has to be installed in a certain orientation so the flow enters it properly. They include one copper washer with it but it was not tight in the correct direction so luckily I had a few other crush washers on hand, I think I added 2 and then it tightened in the proper orientation.
Re: Winter Project - September 18, 201303:12 am UTC
Originally Posted by Jeremy Gilbert
Originally Posted by Jason Drew
I think I'll powdercoat it black when I get the chance.
Have you thought about matching it to your car/valve cover?
It crossed my mind, but I don't have any of that powder left and I'd hate to go buy a pound of it to do one thing. I could also do it in black chrome to match the other piping but I think I'd rather it be less noticeable.
Re: Winter Project - September 20, 201302:09 am UTC
Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
does it make much difference when you are cruising?
I didn't get a chance to log anymore but on the whole trip to work, the temp never went over about 2C over the outside air temp. While cruising it should be even less difference from outside air, under the box is completely open to the wheel well, so it takes in 0 air from the bay.
Well I guess it's that time of year again, though it doesn't really look like it outside FFS.
So back in January I think it was, I did the upgrade to Ecmlink V3, popped it in last month and did the basic setup, got the car running fine enough to take it outside for a breather.
So now I've got everything to switch over to speed density, MAP is already installed, just need to weld a bung in my UICP.
I picked up some 4" tubing today to fab up my new turbo intake. This shouldn't restrict that red too much
Also sold my FIC 850's and pick up a set of FIC 1150's so I should have enough fuel for that 10.99 pass that I've set out for myself this year.
I think I'll also get a larger meth nozzle, or maybe dual nozzles, anyone with meth experience, what's your preference? Also will be letting ecmlink control the meth.
IAT sensor is in now, just waiting for my injectors to come back from FIC for cleaning and flow testing and it should be all good to start up on speed density.
These are a set of used injectors, so I don't know their history besides what I was told, which I pretty much always assume I'm being lied to. So it's well worth it in my mind to have them professionally cleaned and flow matched, I'm still about $100 cheaper than buying a new set even after the cleaning/flow matching.
I'm going to load in my tune from last fall and adjust for the new injectors and roll with the maf for a bit, I know my air flow was well calibrated before so I'll start off on a good base with that.
Yes, to and from my PO box, only $5ish to ship to Florida from state side. Shouldn't be much more to ship from Canada and you'd only have to pay tax on the service being rendered, FIC ships with USPS.
I'd have to ship them either way so for me it doesn't make any difference, I live right on the border so it's no inconvenience for me when you know the customs officers on a first name basis lol.
First time I've had the intake off since August, still looks like brand new.
It doesn't give you that crazy whistle some other brands do.
That's exactly what I want, I don't need to pull ricer fly-bys. Though the Evo 9 bov I was running was pretty damn silent so it won't be much of a change.
Just got a call a few minutes ago from FIC, to let me know the injectors were about 4% out from each other but they will correct them to within 1% and call me back with the final values later today. The guy I talked to was very nice and informative, +1 on FIC customer service.
Received my injectors back today, excellent service by FIC.
As stated earlier, I opted not to get new seals as I had just purchased a set from Ziggy, well they showed up today with brand new seals on them! Also they are rated at 1150cc but they actually flowing around 1250cc, so I have enough injector for over 600hp
Got the injectors in and went right into setting up speed density, got it started up and adjusted a few things before I ran out of battery power on my laptop.
So as most have probably seen, the car is out and running well on speed density, ecmlink is controlling the meth injection as well now. All in all, it was pretty easy to get going.
I should do a log with an without the box in place but I have a log on open right now of a 1st to 4th gear pull and the highest the GM IAT logged was 69F. While cruising it was around 53F, temps where in the high 40F's here today.
Wow. I've been seeing temps around the 150* area, no box or heat shield on the manifold during cruise. And that's during these colder days. Lol
The 2g with a manifold and turbo blanket logged about 70* during cruise, and up to about 100* sitting in traffic for extended periods during the hottest days last summer.
Took the car to the 1/8th mile track tonight for the first time.
It was a "pre-opening" night, no track prep so traction was pretty much non existent and the tune is still in the early stages for sure, just no time to get out and work on it. I was actually breaking loose in the top of 2nd, that was a little sketchy!
First pass was a 7.70 @ 94 at only 23psi!
I think I got one faster than that but no one saw the time and this place doesn't give slips on Friday nights.
Real excited to see how far I can push it this year
Took the car to the 1/8th mile track tonight for the first time.
It was a "pre-opening" night, no track prep so traction was pretty much non existent and the tune is still in the early stages for sure, just no time to get out and work on it. I was actually breaking loose in the top of 2nd, that was a little sketchy!
First pass was a 7.70 @ 94 at only 23psi!
I think I got one faster than that but no one saw the time and this place doesn't give slips on Friday nights.
Real excited to see how far I can push it this year
no biggie, consider it a warm-up. SD is accurate so it has more tuning potential. Can't wait to get mine on SD again. My sticker expires in June...after that is SD Feel any difference not recirculating anymore?
[quote=Jason Drew]So as most have probably seen, the car is out and running well on speed density, ecmlink is controlling the meth injection as well now. All in all, it was pretty easy to get going.
Jason how do you have the meth controled by link? adding meth to mine and this sounds like the right way to go.
PS nice pass: First pass was a 7.70 @ 94 at only 23psi!
[quote=Jason Drew]So as most have probably seen, the car is out and running well on speed density, ecmlink is controlling the meth injection as well now. All in all, it was pretty easy to get going.
Jason how do you have the meth controled by link? adding meth to mine and this sounds like the right way to go.
PS nice pass: First pass was a 7.70 @ 94 at only 23psi!
Fuel pressure solenoid output activation based on load in V3, automatically sets the aux fuel maps as well to correct the fuel mixture, works REALLY well.
Thanks! Felt really good for the start of the year!
[quote=Jason Drew]So as most have probably seen, the car is out and running well on speed density, ecmlink is controlling the meth injection as well now. All in all, it was pretty easy to get going.
Jason how do you have the meth controled by link? adding meth to mine and this sounds like the right way to go.
PS nice pass: First pass was a 7.70 @ 94 at only 23psi!
Fuel pressure solenoid output activation based on load in V3, automatically sets the aux fuel maps as well to correct the fuel mixture, works REALLY well.
Thanks! Felt really good for the start of the year!
Here's a vid from Friday.
Not really an issue for us here in Canada but if you ever have any intention of running the flexfuel setup then you'll have to get rid of the ecu controlled meth.
Figured I'd get my worn out rear diff bushings replaced before the first competition this weekend. Only 1 of the three were still good and had fluid in it.
Took me all of about 90 minutes to swap them out. Drilled out the rubber, notched them and air hammered the old ones out, wire brushed and anti-seized the holes and drove the new ones back in.
I put about 200 miles and 8 launches on them and they are toast.
On the last pass at the SSPA event I heard a noticeable clunk between gear changes and knew something was up.
Contacted the manufacturer today and they agreed there's an obvious defect in them, likely the front one failed first, followed by the rears. They offered to replace them with express shipping and everything was taken care of quickly. I opted to replace these with the solid bushings though this time, I don't feel like changing these a 3rd time.
Wow that's brutal I was reading about the the ones that snowboarder and the other guys built on tuners as they looked identical and they seemed to like them.
Re: Winter Project - September 20, 201402:54 am UTC
Bought time I update this thread.
Well most of you've now seen the clutch issue I suffered a week and a half ago.
I want to give a HUGE thanks to Jamie Valcamp for helping out a fellow DSM'er, he offered me up this very lightly used Southbend disk for an offer that I couldn't refuse. I will be upgrading later on but this will get me through the rest of the year for sure and kept my down time to a minimum.
While it was down, I took the time to actually wire in my water tight quick connect for my boost solenoid.
Re: Winter Project - September 20, 201401:04 pm UTC
Are there any AWD guys that use boost by gear? I was debating on it but my plan was higher boost in the lower gears, I wish there was a way to adjust timing by gears.
First off, pulled the intake manifold off a while back, it's off to a new home, it's getting replaced with a shaved and coated Evo 3 intake manifold.
Here's the progress on that so far:
Motor is ready to pull as of a couple nights ago.
I'm also moving on from the Southbend SS/TZ, it's been a great clutch, I really enjoyed it but it just doesn't deal well with hot lapping the car at my power level.
It's getting replaced with a PTT twin disk.
I didn't ever think I would go to a twin but I'm willing to try it out. If I don't like it I can also switch back to a single disk.
I sold my HKS 264/272 combo and replaced them with a set of GSC S2's, along with Evo 8 behive springs/retainers, so that should open up a top end along with the Evo manifold.
I also have a girdled rear diff cover to install at some point.
There will also be a lot more wire tucking and maybe even a respray of the entire bay, we'll see how much time I have. Also toying with the power steering pump relocation as well. At this rate the roads won't be in good condition until May, so time is on my side.
First off, pulled the intake manifold off a while back, it's off to a new home, it's getting replaced with a shaved and coated Evo 3 intake manifold.
I'm also moving on from the Southbend SS/TZ, it's been a great clutch, I really enjoyed it but it just doesn't deal well with hot lapping the car at my power level.
It's getting replaced with a PTT twin disk.
I didn't ever think I would go to a twin but I'm willing to try it out. If I don't like it I can also switch back to a single disk.
I sold my HKS 264/272 combo and replaced them with a set of GSC S2's, along with Evo 8 behive springs/retainers, so that should open up a top end along with the Evo manifold.
I also have a girdled rear diff cover to install at some point.
There will also be a lot more wire tucking and maybe even a respray of the entire bay, we'll see how much time I have. Also toying with the power steering pump relocation as well. At this rate the roads won't be in good condition until May, so time is on my side.
Originally Posted by Jason Drew
Oh, I forgot I also picked up a Walbro 400 fuel pump.
Sounds like a nice pack of upgrades to punch 2015 like never before. I hope stronger pump, twin clutch, and EVO manifold will work together nicely to break new records this race year. Hopefully i can make to the shootout to meet you and your beast in person.
So the head is now torn down, about half my valve stem seals were leaking, the seals are hard as rock and crunchy, they've never been changed to my knowledge with 150k miles on the car, long over due.
The valves themselves were in pretty good conditions, I cleaned them all and lapped them all in their respective seats, also pretty good for their mileage, no pitting, just dirty.
Cleaned it all and started to reassemble and found I received the wrong valve stem seals, so it'll be a couple days before I get the right ones. Then I'll get the new springs & retainers in along with the GSC S2 cams.
I spent a week or so tearing down the bay and cleaning it up and as of yesterday it's all primed and ready for some color.
Nice work indeed Jason! Were you burning visible oil with those dry stem seals? The reason i ask as i have 200,000 miles on mine & no signs of smoke as of yet
Nice work Jason, what colour you going with? Special type of paint?
OEM color, Dupont Cromax pro base and clear.
Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy
Nice work indeed Jason! Were you burning visible oil with those dry stem seals? The reason i ask as i have 200,000 miles on mine & no signs of smoke as of yet
I had a small puff on start-up and when the car idled for a while. The valves affected were noticeably tarnished by oil running down them.
It's just getting a set of Evo 8 springs/retainers. No machining other than the lapping I did. It's still flat, seats are good and polished up nice with the lapping. I also don't plan to be revving this to the moon on the stock bottom end.
Ok cool, am hoping to do something similar with the head I have sitting on my work bench but it has a bent valve, wasn't sure if I can just swap it and lap it or if I needed to take it to the shop.
Ok cool, am hoping to do something similar with the head I have sitting on my work bench but it has a bent valve, wasn't sure if I can just swap it and lap it or if I needed to take it to the shop.
Bent valves mean your guides need inspection and likely replacement.
Got the correct valve stem seals today so the head is now fully assembled.
Locked down and ready to install keepers Total time to install all the springs/keepers/retainers was under 20 minutes.
GSC S2 cams installed.
One little downfall with the spring compressor is I found out the tube I used is slightly too large for the smaller Evo retainers, no big deal though, just used an old valve seat and it works perfect.
Very impressive progress as usual Jason. Looks like you are reusing rocker arm on this build. I heard good things about evo aluminum rocker arm MD375091. Price adds up quite a bit when buying all 16 of those.
Pretty well ready to drop in the motor, probably going to happen later today.
I've also known my SBR manifold has been cracked(notorious) for a year or 2 but now has developed into 2 cracks so I decided to take care of it. This tig is so handy
I blasted the cracked areas then ground out and drilled the ends of the cracks, preheated it and welded it and returned it to the oven to cool over a couple hours. Time will tell how long it holds. If it fails I may just build my own manifold.
I only had to threaten to sell the damn thing 3 or 4 times today but she's alive. Somehow, somewhere there's a break in one the outputs from the PTU to one of the coil packs. After changing out every part possible that could cause lack of spark on cylinders 2&3 I tracked it down to the wiring and where in the wiring and it doesn't sound like a Subaru anymore. Guess the wiring harness is probably just getting old and brittle and has been moved around one too many times.
I like GSC S2's idle a lot more than your previous setup. Idle is defiantly smoother compared to before:
I do like the "No low end power is lost vs the stock cams" That alone is good enough reason for me to upgrade.
Here is a full description for GSC S2's
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The S2 cams are designed for those with more power in mind or a larger turbo. No low end power is lost vs the stock cams when used with the larger turbos. The S2 cams will show gains of 50-70whp over the stock cams and in some cases more in the higher RPMS. Great for 2.0L engines revving to 9000rpms or for Stroker motors revving to 8000rpms. The S2 Cams are suggest to run on our upgraded Beehive valve spring replacement or can be run at the stock revlimit and factory boost on the stock spring. Designed for a rev range of 4000-9000 RPMS(2.0L or 3000-8000 2.2L+), 400-700whp applications. S2 cams can run on Factory ECU with custom flashing. Made 100% In the USA.
S2's and the hx35 were by far my favourite street setup. Still had good bottom end, would spool up quickly and had awesome airflow all the way through to 8k rpm.
Good mid power band, while maintaining that "big turbo" feeling (delayed spool and loud spool) but still hit hard and early enough to not feel laggy.
Jason, Any issues with high rpm at cold idle after switching to EVO 3 IM? The reason i asked is this:
Originally Posted by Ryan Laliberte
Car runs great, except for on a cold start. I get a VERY high idle for about 2 minutes, after that it's good. I'm not sure if that has to do with the FIAV or whatnot, I'm running a 1G throttle body with all 2G sensors.
I managed to get out to the track one last time for the year, it was cold but sunny and I couldn't resist one more chance at the 1320. I'll be installing a staging brake over the winter to try to get these 60' times in check.
It was kind of an experimental run. I got an idea from a fellow DSM'er about running both an MBC and ecmlink boost control in conjunction. The idea is the EBC clamps the external gate 100% closed until a certain point via the top port and the MBC sets the maximum boost. So it gives you slightly faster spool up, the WG doesn't gradually open like with a MBC, it opens instantly when it gets to the desired boost and you also don't get that annoying fluttering noise of the EBC caused by the pulsing of the EBC. I set it up about 11pm Friday night and tested it on the way to the track.
I'll have to say it seems to work very well. I was spiking to 32 psi and dropping and holding to 30 psi with a fairly mild timing curve.
I'm thinking of picking up a 4" ETS core and probably going black
Re: Winter Project - December 13, 201505:35 pm UTC
Not 100% sure what my plans are for the car this winter but I finally have my -an bungs welded on my valve cover.
Other than that, I will be taking off my wheels and actually powder coating them, the plasti-dip has held up fairly well for several years but it is starting to peel in a number of spots, time to do it right.
I have brand new slotted rotors and parts for it all around but I'll wait until spring to install them.
A staging brake is also on the top of the list of things to do.
Got a haul of parts to bring back from my work trip next week in the US, plan on using that $800 tax credit to the max lol.
Picked up the staging brake, Innovate MTX-D digital boost gauge and a few more bits.
I started working on the brakes when I had some time last week, simple job of putting on new pads and rotors turned into a cluster.
These Baer (cobra) brakes have been on the car for 8 years now, yes I got 8 years out of the original rotors. It was only last year that they got some good pedal thump going on.
So last fall I ordered a new set of slotted Cobra rotors from Rotorpros, received them and stored them away until now. Everywhere I ever rear and see said these kits used 94-04 Cobra 13" rotors. I never actually measured mine, just knew they were bigger than stock.
Fast forward to last Tuesday, after fighting for 20 minutes to get the drivers side rotor off the hub I see an issue right away.
The old ones are 12" and a different offset. Either I have an oddball early set or or maybe the 1g kit, either way 8 years ago it bolted up and worked.
So obviously I can't return these rotors, it's been 6 months, nor do I want to, bigger=better right? and to use them my calipers need to move out a 1/2". So I check RTM's site as I know they sell this kit. The brackets are out of stock, Tuesday night I email Abbas, to this day, still no response. I know they're busy with the move and all so I'll give him that. I don't have time, nor patience to wait around. I also don't like how their brackets mount the calipers in a 10-11 o'clock position instead of 9 o'clock. I know it works just fine either way, just personal preference.
So I designed and fabbed up my own bracket, cut an MDF prototype on the laser at work to make sure they were correct and to figure out the spacers needed. I then had some plasma cut in steel, spacers turned on the lathe and I welded them up and finished them.
1st mod/upgrade of the year complete, swapped out the GM 3 bar sensor for a Omni Power 4 bar and fired her up no problem.
Somehow i missed it. Congrats on the first start of 2016. Are you helping her idle until warm up? you can adjust higher idle via BaseTipInAdj in DirectAccess tab to have her idle 1500/2000 until specific coolant temperature of your choice.
Originally Posted by Jason Drew
^ wow! Is there anything you cannot do? well done! You can help RTMRacing restock their brackets
Originally Posted by Jason Drew
...bigger=better right?
^ Correct me if i'm wrong but your calipers are too small for larger rotors and old pads does not cover all the rotor surface. They most likely run cooler but pedal response should not change? I am not expert so feel free to school me on this
Somehow i missed it. Congrats on the first start of 2016. Are you helping her idle until warm up? you can adjust higher idle via BaseTipInAdj in DirectAccess tab to have her idle 1500/2000 until specific coolant temperature of your choice.
Yes, this was just a first start, I'll deal with that when the time comes.
Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy
^ wow! Is there anything you cannot do? well done! You can help RTMRacing restock their brackets
I like challenges and have a lot of resources at hand. I do what needs to be done.
Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy
^ Correct me if i'm wrong but your calipers are too small for larger rotors and old pads does not cover all the rotor surface. They most likely run cooler but pedal response should not change? I am not expert so feel free to school me on this
^ Will they clear Evo 8 17" rim?
Most likely but this kit was mostly sold with 13" so I'm not reinventing anything here.
Somehow i missed it. Congrats on the first start of 2016. Are you helping her idle until warm up? you can adjust higher idle via BaseTipInAdj in DirectAccess tab to have her idle 1500/2000 until specific coolant temperature of your choice.
Yes, this was just a first start, I'll deal with that when the time comes.
Correction!!! not BaseTipInAdj (that's for SD throttle response) but FastIdleMTISCPos as show here:
Originally Posted by Jason Drew
Most likely but this kit was mostly sold with 13" so I'm not reinventing anything here.
I've tried out the brakes, almost ate glass lol. They look so good with the fresh wheels.
Some of you have seen the little oil res I built,
Well it's my solution to my girdled rear diff cover, which isn't baffled like the stock cover. I've messed around with various vents but they always leak. So this should solve it once and for all.
As the diff heats up the oil should push into the can and then as it cools get pulled back to the diff like how the coolant res works.
Also installed my Innovate MTX-D boost gauge. I did a review video for anyone interested.
There's a few options, some people T the rear brake lines and have it lock up the rear wheels only. I took the other options which is plumbing it into the proportioning valve, which locks up one front and the opposite side rear wheel and also doesn't require cutting or flaring brake lines. Just requires a few metric brake fitting to -an adapters.
... Also installed my Innovate MTX-D boost gauge. I did a review video for anyone interested.
Nicely done Jason, the video did not load in my browser (Chrome & IE) so i had to extract the link by "quoting" your post. Here is the raw link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GxfXJFLUng
I was going to order one of those flexible mounts for my tablet but decided last night just to fab up something. All made from aluminum angle. It screws into the hvac bezel, on the underside so even if I remove it the holes won't be visible.
Pretty slick and clean but it blocks the HVAC controls which kinda kills the whole 'function' aspect in all but a pure race car. What is nice is that it doesn't get in the way of a passenger at all
Takes 2 seconds to pull it out to have access to the HVAC. How much to I use the HVAC in the summer anyway? I don't have A/C so almost never. My HVAC is the window switch.
Very much so, much more firm than the 2g seats. Does for sure take a bit of getting used to. I'm looking forward to not scalding the backs of my legs when wearing shorts as well.
*easy* yeah, lol. I have about 8 hours of work into modding the brackets. I tacked, cut apart and readjusted the drivers seat about 6 times before I got it where I like. The last time was to move it over a 1/4" to the center.
Yeah I test fitted it with my helmet on, it's tight but feels good, they do sit slightly higher than the dsm seats.
So, most know a month or so ago I was out attempting to nail down my 10 second pass, I made 3 passes, made a new personal best of 11.2 @ 128, decided to give it a couple more psi of boost and I think the combination of hot lapping the car and a trans that was initially shimmed tightly, now well worn in after 3 years of abuse and lots of mileage finally gave up, took out 4th which also took out the casing.
Still managed to pull off a 12.2 @ 124 with the trans broken lol.
Sourced a replacement 90 gearset and while I waited for that to arrive, I decided to coat the casing.
Gearset arrived, pressed off my double syncro 1-3 gears which were still good and put them on the new intermediate shaft and got it assembled and took my measurements for the shims. I ordered the shims through Tim Zimmer(TMZ Performance), he got them to me in 2 days flat.
I also decided with this tightly shimmed trans that I would give it the best chance possible by installing active cooling in it. The actual pump and rad will be a winter project but it was now or never basically for getting the fittings installed in the trans. I chose to direct cooled oil onto 3rd and 4th gear, the two that are the most common to break. I installed a 4 port manifold for the option of expansion in the future if it all works out well.
I will pick up a Tilton electric oil pump and radiator over the winter and plumb that in. Not sure if I might add a temperature switch to activate the pump or maybe just have it run manually, that is still to be decided.
Fast forward to a week ago, took the car back to the track for the last SSPA event, plan was to go all out, competition wise and to get that damn 10! I had done a few pulls on the highway at 35 psi and the car felt very good, I was pumped.
First time up at the line:
It was a very loud bang from within the car, when I exited the car I saw liquid on the track, my heart sank and thought the worse, the trans had blown again. To my surprise, it was coolant. The good news is the trans held the launch, the bad news is the rear axle did not and I had a coolant leak somewhere. I noticed in the video a good puff of white smoke, which initially I just shrugged off as typical water vapor, as it was pretty cold out and other cars were puffing white vapor as well.
I had brought a spare axle with me and I would have just swapped it and continued on if it wasn't for the leak. After pushing the car back to the lot I looked it over, the coolant appeared to be coming from behind the t-stat housing, I figured in pulling the trans and whatnot, perhaps the gasket got disturbed so I gave the bolts a little more torque and started the car up, ran normal, no leaks but decided not to risk running it again. The axle was also broken inside the boot so from past experience I figured it would be ok to drive home easily(welded center diff). Got about 10 minutes into the trek home and the broken axle was rattling around like crazy, so in typical dsm spirit, stopped off in a Home Depot parking lot and pulled out the broken shaft lol.
Back on the road in about 15 minutes with no more noise and still no coolant leak.
Damn man you can't catch a break this year! That's a much easier fix than a stripped 4th though, I'm pretty sure you'll be back out before the season ends
After I got home I swapped out the axle and resealed the t-stat housing. I took the car for an easy drive and all seemed well.
The next morning I took the car to work in the morning and gave it some boost, when I arrived at work, it was leaking coolant pretty bad once again. At this point it was time to pull the head. I found the culprit.
After draining the coolant into a pail and it sitting for a while, there were several little globs of oil sitting on top of the coolant, this almost went really bad, no signs of coolant in the oil at all, so that's good.
While tearing it apart, I believe I found the cause of the head gasket failure, when I pulled the vac line to the AFPR, gas came out. This is the second time the diaphragm in this Fuelab AFPR has failed on me.
So as of tonight, the car is all back together, with a Felpro composite once again, just waiting for the new diaphragm to arrive on Wednesday. Plan is to throw in some L19 head studs over the winter to help prevent this again.
Damn man you can't catch a break this year! That's a much easier fix than a stripped 4th though, I'm pretty sure you'll be back out before the season ends
As much as I'd love to go back out, I might hold off.
I'd really like to go back to back to a 4 spider center diff and pick up a set of slicks. We'll see how the weather pans out. For now at least I'll be able to get in some nice fall cruising.
Nope, this is the second time I replaced it. I'll just add it to the yearly maintenance from now on to put in a new one, $20 is worth it for peace of mind.
Nope, this is the second time I replaced it. I'll just add it to the yearly maintenance from now on to put in a new one, $20 is worth it for peace of mind.
Forgive my ignorance, but how does a failed diaphragm cause your head gasket to fail?
Nope, this is the second time I replaced it. I'll just add it to the yearly maintenance from now on to put in a new one, $20 is worth it for peace of mind.
Forgive my ignorance, but how does a failed diaphragm cause your head gasket to fail?
Massive drop in fuel pressure=lean condition/higher combustion chamber pressures.
Nope, this is the second time I replaced it. I'll just add it to the yearly maintenance from now on to put in a new one, $20 is worth it for peace of mind.
Forgive my ignorance, but how does a failed diaphragm cause your head gasket to fail?
Massive drop in fuel pressure=lean condition/higher combustion chamber pressures.
Could have saved you some hassle on the muffler, Vibrant makes a very nice 3" in, dual 2.5" out universal muffler. Used this when I switched to a stock looking muffler years back.
I wanted as stock looking as possible, the Vibrant muffler size is very close to the stock size, they sell tips that are the same size & slant as OEM, had these welded on staggered just like the factory setup, then bead blasted the whole muffler to ditch the polished SS for a nice satin finish. Have had DSM owners not realise it wasn't a stock muffler
Ya I knew that muffler existed but I kinda rage built this one after having to deal with court 3 times over the winter. Fabbing up something to stick it to the man while pissed off is very soothing
Ha, that is exactly why I went with the stock looking setup, probably 7-8 years back now. Had an Apexi N1 that was super quiet, but regularly got pulled over for it. Talked my way out of a ticket 3 times & was given 3 or 4 at other times (all thrown out). Had enough, went to a stock looking setup (that was much louder) & haven't been bothered since
It's crazy how much is just the "looks". Doesn't matter how loud it is, really. If it is big, shiny and round, you're getting a ticket. With that being said, it's also easy to get away with running an open downpipe as long as you hang your rusty stock muffler at the back as a decoy
That's very true, I'm sure this is actually louder than the Thermal was but it's got that all important Mitsu emblem embossed on it and the SQ's famous "wire check" won't pass through it so I'm in the clear. One last thing I want to do is get the aluminum heat shield off a cat and tack it to the aluminum mid section so it looks all legit. Although last time the cop asked if I had a cat and I said look for yourself, he pointed at the flex pipe and said, yup, looks good.
Could have saved you some hassle on the muffler, Vibrant makes a very nice 3" in, dual 2.5" out universal muffler. Used this when I switched to a stock looking muffler years back.
I wanted as stock looking as possible, the Vibrant muffler size is very close to the stock size, they sell tips that are the same size & slant as OEM, had these welded on staggered just like the factory setup, then bead blasted the whole muffler to ditch the polished SS for a nice satin finish. Have had DSM owners not realise it wasn't a stock muffler
I have this Vibrant exhaust you speak of! It's awesome!
Could have saved you some hassle on the muffler, Vibrant makes a very nice 3" in, dual 2.5" out universal muffler. Used this when I switched to a stock looking muffler years back.
I wanted as stock looking as possible, the Vibrant muffler size is very close to the stock size, they sell tips that are the same size & slant as OEM, had these welded on staggered just like the factory setup, then bead blasted the whole muffler to ditch the polished SS for a nice satin finish. Have had DSM owners not realise it wasn't a stock muffler
I have this Vibrant exhaust you speak of! It's awesome!
Same with my magnaflow 😉 but Jason just looks like he is having way too much fun
So last month I had a little incident on the half mile. I ran the same tune I did last fall when I ran 11.2 on the 1/4 mile, mostly because it's been an extremely busy year so far and haven't had a chance to do much with the car. I guess 14 degrees peak timing on 35 psi with standard ARP's was just a bit too much for the Felpro composite. Side by side with a ZR1 and I wasn't lifting, maybe 100 or so feet before the finish I lost power and a cloud of steam poured out. Blew off the lower rad hose, ballooned the rad and blew off the coolant line to the oil cooler.
Melted a small spot in the head but I managed to salvage it. This is the original head to my car and probably the last original drivetrain part in the car. I ground out the melted spot till I hit fresh material and welded it back in, leaving plenty of material to make sure there were no low spots after getting the head resurfaced.
Like new
OEM MLS this time around.
She's been all back together for a few weeks now, went and did the first try on the 1/4 mile a week ago, 11.5 @ 126 for the first pass of the year, revving it out to 8500, then the rain moved in. Can't wait to go back and turn the boost back up and see what she'll really do this year.
Impressive to see all that on the stock 7 bolt. I hope you get it into the 10's. How's the new exhaust treating you? No more hassles I assume?
It's actually been a built 6 bolt for 2 years now. 7 bolt was tired with low compression, so I took the opportunity to do a little upgrade. My real issue is lack of time to do anything with the car lately.
Cops have eyed the car a few times, haven't been pulled over yet. I pretty sure it's louder than before lol.