Re: Air flow
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March 30, 2002 01:07 am UTC
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Len Randall
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hey, another idea for you....Put the hairdryer on the exhaust pipe....use it to pull the air through the engine increasing air flow.
'92 Talon TSi AWD.
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Re: Air flow
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March 30, 2002 04:35 am UTC
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Amin Ahmadi
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Hey was a joke? if not then therewas a thread about Electric Turbo or Super charger. But well, just an idea. Have you ever compared the amount of ait that a engine uses that one that a hair dryer gives out? 2.0 L Air / 2 RPMS doing like 3 KRPM you have something like 3000 Litres of Air per minte that is like 50 Litres per second.(I hope my calculations are right, that seems too much! ) COmpare that with a dryer! A dryer would block the way ONLY! But search for that thread about electric chargers. There are some interesting stuff there. AMin
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Re: Air flow
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March 30, 2002 05:04 am UTC
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Len Randall
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one more problem, the hair dryer runs on 120 volts AC, the car runs on 12volts DC...I quess you could put an inverter in to take care of that...
You could probly get .001psi of boost with this setup....
There is electric turbos out there that supposedly give you a little extra, but sorry, no hair dryer conversions that I've heard of.
'92 Talon TSi AWD.
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Re: Air flow
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March 30, 2002 05:58 am UTC
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Shawn Petrie
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it will be like a fake ram air for about half of the time your going to tinker around figuring out this isnt going to work, you can make your own home made REAL ram air system. my advice would be to unhook the air box, then unscrew and remove it. look at the hole comming up through the frame.....you will think of something. i did this mod for about $10 and it was well worth it. took me about 45 min to install.
92 TSi AWD Fast!!! 02 Honda RC51 1000R FASTER!!!
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Re: Air flow
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March 30, 2002 06:01 pm UTC
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Shawn Petrie
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well then, good luck.....and please keep us (me) updated.
92 TSi AWD Fast!!! 02 Honda RC51 1000R FASTER!!!
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Re: Air flow
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April 02, 2002 02:10 am UTC
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Amin Ahmadi
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If I am allowed to make one comment here that would be this,
All the physics I know is telling me that if that was a stationary system (not a car) this had a negative effect, You ask why?
and I say, because You are lowering by pressure over the filter. You are speeding the air and making a hell lot of chaos in the flow. so the flow in to the filter indeed decrease. also that Motor is getting power from the Alternator
And this is a Car: and this system has weight.
You get twice that much "power" if you take out your AC or anyother thing you think is useless in the car.
Innovative though,
but Try RAM airing, it should give some power if it's designed right at high speeds
If I was once to take a car for a quarter a mile drag race, I would probabely do that with almost no engine mode but only lightening.
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Re: Air flow
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April 02, 2002 02:16 am UTC
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Shaun Oriold1
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I posted a while back, "what was boost" well I never really got any good responses. I did however learn that atmospheric pressure is 14.7LBS. I'm guessing that if this blower is to produce any boost then it must be able to move a weight of approx. 14lbs. Maybe it makes more sense to me since I have been drinking gin for the better part of 4 hours. But it sems logical. Is that possible with a hair dryer??
If its not producing any boost, than its probally more restricting than doing good.??
Probally not a great idea, But its a start.
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Re: Air flow
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April 02, 2002 03:13 am UTC
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Len Randall
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look at the picture, you cant create boost with that setup.
'92 Talon TSi AWD.
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Re: Air flow
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April 02, 2002 05:26 pm UTC
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Steve Kinnaird
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Nitrogen is used becasue it doesn't expand as much as it heats up (compared to regular old fashioned air..)
That way, the pressure in the tires stays more consistant.
Now, I'll have all kinds of time to talk about DSMs, because I won't be busy fixing mine!
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Re: Air flow
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April 02, 2002 08:08 pm UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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I tried Nitrogen last Summer. Difference was noticeable (Pressure did not increase as much as with "Good old Air") but I still needed to adjust Tire Pressure a little bit after the Tire warmed up.
Just seemed to be a little more stable but was no miracle...
Ghislain.
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Re: Air flow
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April 02, 2002 08:13 pm UTC
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Shawn Petrie
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thanks for the explaination waldo, and steve but i still dont get it. as waldo stated, helium, and nitrogen are both less dense then air, so how would you inflate the tire? would you (rough calculation) double the maximum pressure of air? would the tire be able to hold 64psi of gas? and another thing, both helium and nitrogen are highly flammable? this seems very dangerous to me, both for personal saftey and to the car if say someone dropped a lite cigg. next to a tire with a slow leak?
92 TSi AWD Fast!!! 02 Honda RC51 1000R FASTER!!!
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Re: Air flow
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April 04, 2002 10:25 pm UTC
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Jeremy Chin
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heheh....guys lighten up...he is NOT using the hair dryer to create boost....he is just drawing cooler air to feed the intake.
does the same thing as removing your headlight to get more/cooler air into the filter...
Heh...but putting in a hood scoop on top of your filter would do the same thing.
300hp Talon to a 50hp Citroen. Lovely ain't it? Back to another Mits. A Mirage Cyborg as a future 4G63T candidate.
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