FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
#308347
July 20, 2009 01:50 am UTC
July 20, 2009 01:50 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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95 AWD 14b.
Here's a run down of what I've been doing over the past few days.
5K Stutterbox, and I can't build more than 3 psi of boost.
There are NO boost leaks, nada, zip. I've leak-tested to 15psi so far (Not a big enough compressor) and I have no boost leaks.
I just picked up a new EVO III Hotside (Borrowed) from a member here, and slapped it on, therefore the hotside is perfect.
The timing (mechanical) is off 1/2 a tooth, but not enough to cause this.
The exhaust manifold is a little bit wet at the head, however I don't see any smoke coming from it.
I'm completely baffled as to why I have no boost. The turbo has little up/down and no in/out play. It's Ian's 14b, however I do believe it was abused by the previous owner.
Help????
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Mike Kuttschrutter]
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July 20, 2009 02:59 am UTC
July 20, 2009 02:59 am UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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Get a 50 Trim; that should take car of it!!!
Smart Ars Giz!!!
Rouge!!!
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Ian Burnside]
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July 20, 2009 04:20 am UTC
July 20, 2009 04:20 am UTC
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Adam Grenon
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Sounds like wastegate is stuck open to me, had this happen before.
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Adam Grenon]
#308383
July 20, 2009 11:10 am UTC
July 20, 2009 11:10 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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OP
No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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Ugh.. no. The wastegate is NOT stuck open. I wouldn't make that much of an elementary mistake.
Can't build boost while driving, stutterbox, stutterbox with antilag, nothing.
I've also pulled the boost reference line to the wg, does nothing.
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Ryan Laliberte]
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July 20, 2009 11:25 am UTC
July 20, 2009 11:25 am UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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I seen the crack in the Hotside. Defenately no boost worty!!!
Having said that Ryan and as much as it might hurt one proud; Wire the WG shut. That will for all eleminate any doubt.
Ghislain.
Rouge!!!
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Ghislain Goudreau]
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July 20, 2009 02:04 pm UTC
July 20, 2009 02:04 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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Its already shimmed shut.
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Paul Petricca]
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July 20, 2009 09:23 pm UTC
July 20, 2009 09:23 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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Try "not running a boost controller". frack it. Punching out the cat tonight. To recap for those just joining us. -Only making 3 psi of boost. -It's not because the wastegate is open, The thing is very very much closed. -Wastegate acutator is not causing an issue -No boost leaks -No exhaust leaks.
Last edited by Ryan Laliberte; July 20, 2009 09:57 pm UTC.
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Michael Muir]
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July 21, 2009 01:34 am UTC
July 21, 2009 01:34 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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Yeah, well I'd like to get it going a lot sooner that that!
Turbo's shot, for sure. Punched out the cat, nothing. We free revved a bit and then WOT sutterbox and she built like 15psi!
We couldn't reproduce it.
So I'm confident it's the turbo.
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Ryan Laliberte]
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July 21, 2009 09:19 pm UTC
July 21, 2009 09:19 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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No refund required. It was a free turbo.
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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July 24, 2009 11:20 am UTC
July 24, 2009 11:20 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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OP
No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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It's not, new gasket in there.
Brian, thanks again for the offer, but I'm not looking for a 14b anymore.
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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July 24, 2009 09:23 pm UTC
July 24, 2009 09:23 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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OP
No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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Return line isn't blocked. The turbo is toast.
So I need one. Bad.
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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July 28, 2009 11:24 am UTC
July 28, 2009 11:24 am UTC
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Joined: Oct 2005
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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OP
No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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I have found a known working 14b. I've been in this car, driven it, felt the turbo pull, so I know it works.
So, if all goes well, car is on the road tonight!
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Ryan Laliberte]
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July 28, 2009 02:43 pm UTC
July 28, 2009 02:43 pm UTC
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Grant Redfern
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I have found a known working 14b. I've been in this car, driven it, felt the turbo pull, so I know it works.
So, if all goes well, car is on the road tonight! You flippy flopper. I thought you were 100% against 14b/16/18/20g? You should have just bought the C16g from ebay.
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Grant Redfern]
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July 28, 2009 02:50 pm UTC
July 28, 2009 02:50 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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Funny thing is I did! But can't afford the setup needed to run it. (Injectors, FMIC etc). I'm going for a "stock" setup right now. The 14b is "stock" on a DSM.... just not this one.
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Ryan Laliberte]
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July 28, 2009 07:01 pm UTC
July 28, 2009 07:01 pm UTC
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Brandon Clement
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If you drove a 5spd it would build boost But for real, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it works.
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Re: FRUSTRATED!!! No boost!
[Re: Brandon Clement]
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July 28, 2009 07:30 pm UTC
July 28, 2009 07:30 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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Off to get my turbo now. Will let you all know how it works out. Just picked up a 4L Jug of Methyl Hydrate last night... if all goes well, time to DIAL IT IN!!
AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim CarreyLast Login: September 28, 2021
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