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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Reza Mirza] #351158
April 21, 2011 03:55 pm UTC
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Hey Reza, i have no idea how low it will sit. I will figure that out this weekend once its in the car. (hopefully tomorrow if weather holds)

I have a set of 272 regrinds that i picked up. Gord checked them and said they were good to use. He also assembled the motor and set the degree for me. I have HKS adjustable gears.

Man i hope that turbo fits...now you got me worried smile


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Tim Sedore] #351160
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Looking good!
You might need to grind away some of the crossmember to fit the oil return.

Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Rob Strelecki] #351165
April 21, 2011 04:47 pm UTC
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I was already running a t3 turbo so I am hoping it all still bolts up. My old t3 was considerably smaller though but i had all the lines run already.

Hopefully i will have it in the car tomorrow so i have a better idea of what i need. I will need to have my exhaust welded as my old turbo had a 2.5 inch flange and this one is 3inch.


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Tim Sedore] #351170
April 21, 2011 05:22 pm UTC
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Just looked at the pic of your adjustable cam gears, wow looks like their both getting close to the max adjustment. What turbo is that?


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Daren Peacock] #351173
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Hey Darren that is the Garrett GT3076R Dual ball bearing, twin scroll T3/T4 hybrid. 60mm w/84 trim (Cold side) matched with Tial 3603 turbine housing. The exhaust housings pretty small so it is supposed to spool up pretty quick and rated for over 525 hp.

I got it for a deal i couldnt turn down. I wasnt shopping for it but came across it at a decent price so now i will have to figure out how to make it work. I have a couple of t4 headers. One of them it hits the block but this one we were able to get it in. I will have to see how much space i have with the rad and fans but as i said i was already running a t4 so should be able to bolt it all up. The vbands bigger so need to find a welder to hook back up the exhaust.


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Tim Sedore] #351184
April 21, 2011 06:58 pm UTC
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Lol, it sounds like you have way to many numbers in that turbo description. Are you sure you know what you have?

I'm thinking what you have is a GT3076R (aka GT30R, aka 3076) with a Tial turbine housing (maybe 3603 is tials part # for that specific housing?). 60mm / 84 trim are the specs for the turbine wheel (or hotside) of a GT3076.

If you do infact have a 3076, thats a great turbo for your car & what I'm running. If the Tial housing doesn't work (fitmant or bad size for your goals (A/R)), you can always swap turbine housings. Forced Performance has a great bolt on DSM housing (works great with their cast DSM mani), that would be a great match. This is what I run on my car.


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Daren Peacock] #351189
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i feel better knowing someone thats running it. I was concerned it would be too big. you are right the 3606 is the tial part number for the exhaust side and the turbo is the GT30R.

To be honest i wasnt sure what i have as i just got it this week. I had to look it up smile

As for fitting i will have to get my exhaust rewelded as my vclamp is currently 2.5 (on exhaust) but my new exhaust housing has a 3 inch flange. My exhaust is 3 in up to about 6-8 inches from the exhaust housing where i had to reduce it to 2.5 for my old turbo.


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Tim Sedore] #351191
April 21, 2011 07:43 pm UTC
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Do you happen to know the AR of the Tial housing you have? Try the Tial housing first & see how it fits once its in your engine bay. If its a no go I would recommend this setup:

Exhaust mani:
http://store.forcedperformance.net/...e=EMFPRace&Category_Code=DSM-Exhaust
Turbine housing:
http://store.forcedperformance.net/...ode=THFP30&Category_Code=Turbo-Parts

To make that work you need a Tail V44 or the new Tial MV-R. You will also need a Vband O2 housing,such as this:

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...e=O2FP3025&Category_Code=DSM-Exhaust

Basically when you bolt on the FP turbine housing to a 3076R turbo you get what FP calls a 3052 (the way I bought mine):

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...e=NTDSMFP3052&Category_Code=Turbo-FP

If you don't know, its a bolt on turbo that will have similar flow to a T3 .63 A/R housing. The turbo is rated at 52lb/min (or 520 crank hp) but it will defently make more power then that with the right setup. I flow 48lb/min on my street tune, 26psi & 50lb/min @ 28psi. This is with an evoIII intake mani & FP1X cams. I'm looking to see 55lb/min with the new setup.

I would recommend this turbo 100% for a daily street turbo as well. I liked it much better then the evoIII I use to have when my car was fwd. I see 20psi @ 4000 rpms. Defently not what I would call a laggy turbo.

Edit: you'll also want to feed that turbo from the head & run a restrictor with inline filter as well. I'd run this filter:

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...P4ANFilter&Category_Code=DSM-TurboHW

You want the black one. This will give you the proper oil pressure/flow & filter the supply (must do with a BB turbo)

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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Daren Peacock] #351193
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Yea it looks like the exhaust cam is almost fully retarded. If thats how they line up after degreeing, then it should be fine.

To sum up Daren's posts above you should have just gotten a REAL Forced Performance turbo wink

Its still a nice turbo you have, and I really like the way those Tial housings look smile


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Daren Peacock] #351194
April 21, 2011 08:11 pm UTC
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Wow, you just added to my shopping list. Looks like May 1st is out of the question now smile

Great info. This looks like it...

Tial GT-35r with the cast SS exhaust housing. The exhaust is .86 ratio from what i am reading.

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1845305
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/487588-quick-spool-turbo.html


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Tim Sedore] #351196
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just went out to take a look. That is 100 % it.

Garret GT3076R with a Tial GT-35r.


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Tim Sedore] #351197
April 21, 2011 08:37 pm UTC
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I don't really know anything about the Tial housings, not sure if their built like a typical T3, T4, etc or their probably their own custom design, with different volutes, so the A/R cannot be directly compared to say a T3 (or the FP housing). If it is similar to these, that housing will probably be abit more laggy with more top end power potential.


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Daren Peacock] #351897
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Hey Darren, i have a question regarding the oil inline with the restrictor. I already purchased this:

https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17380&cat=1392&page=1

Would you still recomend the forged performance one? I guess the benefit there is with the filtering


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Re: Need honest machine shop in GTA [Re: Tim Sedore] #351963
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Did you get the head feed one? This turbo needs to be fed from the head, not OFH. Personally would I runn a BB turbo without a filter? Absolutly not, while BB turbos are said to be more durable & take more abuse then a std thrust turbo, they do not take well to oil contamination. Normally you shouldn't see anything in your turbo feed filter but if something strange happens & you have no filter to protect your turbo, you will probably damage the turbo. Which means a complete center section replacement, not sure the going rate but believe its over $500.


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