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Winter Project #387931
November 02, 2012 01:42 pm UTC
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I put the car officially into storage on the 31st, so now the winter project begins.

I've been planning to wire tuck for a couple years, but something else always came up. I think this is the first year I put it away with absolutely nothing to fix on it, so now is the time.

I'm sure I'll find some other things to clean up as well, more powder coating for sure.


Started by tagging all the connectors:

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Then stripping back some of the sheathing:

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Seperating everything:

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And as it sits right now.

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Where are you relocating your fusebox to?


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It's right under the air filter, I'll be opening it up under there so it'll be accessible by removing the filter.


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What sheathing are you going to use to loom all the wires?



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Re: Winter Project [Re: Jason Drew] #388202
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I'm using polyester wrap around sleeving, no need to remove the connectors, flame and heat resistant. I'll probably throw a black zip tie on here and there to make sure it keeps closed.

Looks like this:

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nice.. where do you get the wrap? canadian tire?


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This is a good inspiration for me! I have already gutted my interior, Dash, seats, console, carpet, headliner, sunroof and all. I m starting by moving the battery to the trunk and cleaning up unused and unnecessary wires (antenna, CD changer, ect). I was contemplating relocating the fusebox. Maybe I ll put mine where the battery used to be. Looking good, keep the pics coming.


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Re: Winter Project [Re: Jason Drew] #388209
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thanks!

I'm going to go ahead with the upgrade to V3 and switch over to
speed density, that'll take care of that ugly maf and I'll make a nice 4" intake.


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Here's the stuff i plan to use and have used it the past.

http://www.techflex.com/catalogpages/FlexoWrapFR.pdf



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Originally Posted by Mike Degli Angeli
Here's the stuff i plan to use and have used it the past.

http://www.techflex.com/catalogpages/FlexoWrapFR.pdf


Looks good. I assume the nominal size is the closed diameter of it?


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Ya I've looked at that stuff too. I may order both and see what I like best.


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Or we can go broke buying Raychem..lol



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Jason, I highly suggest using heat shrink, specifically the adhesive lined kind to terminate the ends of the sleeving.
It will look a lot nicer.


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Re: Winter Project [Re: Anthony Hiscock] #388227
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Originally Posted by Anthony Hiscock
Jason, I highly suggest using heat shrink, specifically the adhesive lined kind to terminate the ends of the sleeving.
It will look a lot nicer.


You mean like how I did my map sensor wink

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Plugs in directly to the MDP socket, no wire splicing needed. (tape was only on the connector temporarily until the silicone cured)


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Yup, just like that!
Looks good man.

After using the adhesive lined stuff I never go back to the old stuff.


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Re: Winter Project [Re: Jason Drew] #388267
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Yeah the adhesive stuff is gold when your shrink wrapping stuff.
you know its going to be sealed and protected once the goo starts to flow

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Is this stuff you guys are talking about different than regular heat shrink? Someone care to post a link?


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Re: Winter Project [Re: Salomon Ponte] #388272
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Originally Posted by Salomon Ponte
Is this stuff you guys are talking about different than regular heat shrink? Someone care to post a link?


It has a sealant on the inside that melts when you heat it to shrink it which seals the cable off, or in this case holds it in place.


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It's a thermoplastic they line the walls of the tube with. Very Readily availiable at any parts store. It used to be almost triple the price of regular stuff, but I havent paid for it for many years

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Hmm...what would I find it called? I only ever see the regular heatshrink at the stores.


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adhesive backed heat shrink tubing. We get it from ATS( I think) Sorry when i say parts store I don't mean CTC or parts source. I will double check with are parts guy tomorrow for you Salomon.

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Originally Posted by Stephen Richardson
adhesive backed heat shrink tubing. We get it from ATS( I think) Sorry when i say parts store I don't mean CTC or parts source. I will double check with are parts guy tomorrow for you Salomon.


Awesome...thanks! I may do some wire tucking over the winter, so it'll be nice to have this stuff.


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Salomon. We buy it in bulk from a supplier called Wurth. They come in 2 foot lengths. We used to get from ATS but the price is better from Wurth. My parts guy said he thinks Napa also carries it but the come in 3 inch sections and are more expensive.

If you want tell me what size you want and i can order it.

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we also use wurth wink


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Check an electronics retailer like Sayal Electronics.
That's where I got it from when I lived in ON.


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Bunch of goodies showed up today smile

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I'm really temped to hit up that FP Green XL/FP mani for $1399 right now, that is a hell of a deal I think.


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They must have just raised the price, the XL was 999.00 not long ago.
I was stuck between that green xl and the 71hta, and i went with the 71hta. They were the same price at the time.

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extremepsi ?


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It seems like turbo prices are heading back to where they were 10 years ago, maybe higher. Makes the chinese knockoffs seem pretty attractive...


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No, direct from FP. The $999 was a sale that FP had on.

Normally the XL is $1349, externally gated, so internally gated and with the FP manifold is a pretty decent deal.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...roduct_Code=DSMSpecial&Category_Code


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Ya, except that not long ago turbos not much smaller than that (the EVO III) were selling for $499.USD, and the FP manifold often comes on sale for $175. shipped...so it is still DOUBLE what it cost about a year or so ago...


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Super happy I bought my E316g when Mitsu made another big batch, I believe I scored mine for around $750 with tax a few years back and I grabbed a HAFE manifold for a steal (SB was getting rid of discontinued stock I think).

Thanks RTM!

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Originally Posted by Terry Sikora
Super happy I bought my E316g when Mitsu made another big batch, I believe I scored mine for around $750 with tax a few years back and I grabbed a HAFE manifold for a steal (SB was getting rid of discontinued stock I think).

Thanks RTM!


Got my E316G also from RTM for around the same price grin


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E316g cannot push 59lbs/min, compare it to another turbo in that flow range and see how the price stacks up.


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Even the 68HTA that they are currently selling for $1300. only cost about $800. a year or so ago. FP is just driving up the pricing of turbos like crazy.


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Originally Posted by Jason Drew
E316g cannot push 59lbs/min, compare it to another turbo in that flow range and see how the price stacks up.


true,

Just looked at my log. My 16G did 41.5 lbs/min at 6300rpm 22.5 psi. 59lbs must feel really nice eh


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Yes. Yes it does.


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If I were you Jason id wait for around Christmas when they have year end pricing, seems to be the time to buy...


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