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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #392557
January 21, 2013 03:12 am UTC
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LOL no worries Brendan, let me know if it works out at CT.

I did just twist the line until it came off. I need a new what?


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395171
February 20, 2013 08:24 pm UTC
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Finally got the line back on the other day, was so cold.

Anyhoo' instead of starting a new thread I thought I'd just ask here.

So all I need now is gas and a battery charge.

3 months sitting, so how long of a drive do you guys think it'll take before it's good to turn off so I can get it back on again?


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395172
February 20, 2013 08:27 pm UTC
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Mike, most guys will tell you to charge your battery over night unless you want to replace your alt because it's being over run. At least that is what I was told when my batter was dead.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395174
February 20, 2013 08:52 pm UTC
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Best to trickle charge her overnight. Not only is a dead battery very hard on an Alt but you would need to drive to Mike Eng's and back before it was charged.

Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395178
February 20, 2013 09:13 pm UTC
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Thanks guys, will do


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395182
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Check CTC they have a small battery charger/maintaner onsale now. Sounds like something you need.

Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395211
February 21, 2013 12:47 am UTC
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Just buy a new battery if you think yours is wangy.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395302
February 21, 2013 03:27 pm UTC
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Car was sitting for 3 months that's why the battery died.

Hoping it's okay once I charge it. Only been 3 months so should be good no?

Also, I have a replacement warranty still good at CT so I'll just swap it if it's bad.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395303
February 21, 2013 03:32 pm UTC
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3 months of sitting shouldn't kill it (but who knows with those crappy T batteries). A good long low-current trickle charge should have it good as new.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395325
February 21, 2013 06:14 pm UTC
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Oh I was gonna shoot it up with a 15A shot. I got the charger with a low 2A option and the 15A option.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395328
February 21, 2013 06:32 pm UTC
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Even a trickle charger running on its higher settings can boil a tired battery. I would sit it at 2A.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395329
February 21, 2013 06:39 pm UTC
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Ooo', copy that, thanks


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395342
February 21, 2013 08:08 pm UTC
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the slower the charge the deeper the charge

Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395356
February 21, 2013 09:09 pm UTC
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"the slower, the deeper"..I'll keep that in mind wink


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Mike Eng] #395361
February 21, 2013 09:59 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Mike Eng
"the slower, the deeper"..I'll keep that in mind wink


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395363
February 21, 2013 10:09 pm UTC
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You don't want to overheat or over excite the electrolite. Lower amps= less heat.

Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395379
February 21, 2013 11:20 pm UTC
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Was going to do it right now, but the car is sitting in the driveway, and it's dipping down to -10 tonight.

Question is, is there an operating temperature for these types of chargers or am I good to just leave it under the hood of the car and leave it charging overnight or just until midnight then take it off and charge some more tomorrow?

Or just start it up after 6 hours ish at 2amps?


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395384
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I have left them out allnight many times in the winter. Aslong as it is an autocharger you can leave it on all night.

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Instructions say never to charge a frozen battery. WTF it's winter!

Thanks Steve


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Oh yeah dont charge the battery if it is frozen. Bring it inside and let it defrost

Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395396
February 22, 2013 12:32 am UTC
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How on earth do I know if it's frozen?

It's been sitting outside and it's been in the negatives all day.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395397
February 22, 2013 12:37 am UTC
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Forget about it. Seems too cold. Don't wanna risk it blowing up. I'll wait until the weekend, it's supposed to be warmer.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #395398
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Well Einstein, it's probably frozen wink

Usually you can see frost accumulate on the outside of the battery casing. And if it's swelling, good sign it's frozen too.


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Does the battery have vent caps. If it does pop em off and look to see if there is ice. A battery will only freeze if it completely dead. The electrolite wont freeze but if it is water it will

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It's frozen...damn.

Side is bulging.

Going to see if I can take it in for replacement sometime over the weekend at CT. Now to find the receipt. frown


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Originally Posted by Mike Eng
Well Einstein, it's probably frozen wink

Usually you can see frost accumulate on the outside of the battery casing. And if it's swelling, good sign it's frozen too.


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Yeah best to let it defrost. And hopeful get it warrantied

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Just bring it inside with you for the night. Cuddle it, sing to it by the fire, what ever floats your boat. Just don't take it to bed with you....


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #396263
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She's alive!!! Thanks for all the help guys.

That's another thing to add to my knowledge base that I can do now.

Got a replacement battery from CT, they upgraded me to an Eliminator for free, because the regular motomaster wasn't in stock. Yay.

Popped her in a couple of hours ago, started up after a few put puts, went to pick up some Kotthu Rotti from a place in Scarborough called Gasa.

Mmm.

Feels good to boost again and drive again. Damn.

Bigass smile on my face. laugh


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Awesome! I cant wait till the snow is gone or at least the streets are dry to bring mine home and test out the new clutch.

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Good to hear she's back on the road!


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