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1g front suspension, More travel needed #439997
May 19, 2015 04:43 pm UTC
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My car is lowered quite a bit and I am running into some travel issues.
My koni inserts and old school DSS setup seems to only have maybe 3 inches of travel before it completely bottoms out the shock.

Is there any other koni inserts with a shorter shock body that I could use?

Or any other setups/suggestions?

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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #439998
May 19, 2015 04:47 pm UTC
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The honda kids raise the top mount for the shock. You could do that.
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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440000
May 19, 2015 04:56 pm UTC
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ah cool idea, but then I would loose my camber plates. frown


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440001
May 19, 2015 05:02 pm UTC
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Not necessarily. you would essentially pull apart the camper plate so your left with the piece that looks similar to the above, then cut out the part that has the bearing in it and get a thick pipe and raise it up an inch or whatever you like.


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440010
May 20, 2015 12:35 am UTC
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How does that increase the travel? Does it not just act as a spacer, raising the car? Which is the same idea as raising the lower perch of the coil over?

I think a different set up is the right solution.


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440015
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Mike take a second look, the top of the shock mount is higher but the spring perch remains in the same place this will then allow the shock to move in a better range of motion and should prevent bottoming out. I wish I could show you in person cause you would get it right away, just hard to explain.


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440017
May 20, 2015 02:53 am UTC
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OK I get it. But does that impose clearance issue with the hood closing?


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440020
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That's a good point, it definitely could.


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440021
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I suppose you could fabricate top hat spacers with that design and longer studs.


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440022
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Double post. :dunno:

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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440054
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What do you mean by running into some travel issues? Are you hitting the bump stops / bottoming out the shocks? What method are you using to test how much travel you are using?

When I have my 17x10's on the car, I only have about 1" of travel before the tire makes contact with the fender. I've compensated for this by running higher spring rate.

In your case, you may just need to cut your bump stops shorter. If that doesn't do the trick, then you need more stiff springs.


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440055
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What size tires are you running?


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440057
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It may be my shocks are just finally completely worn out.
I removed the bump stops and still bottom out.

I just peer up into the fender and see that the shock top is quite close to the top hat at my set height.

I just don't want to get the same setup and run the shock at the very end of its travel to just kill it. Unless Koni's are ok with that?

Scott, do you street drive your car?
I'm not sure if I could deal with only 1" of travel and super stiff springs.


My setup is a 17x9 with 245's 30 offset


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440081
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I run 17x10 +12 w/ 275's in competition. They stick out past the fender a good inch, and do not tuck under the fenders in compression. Instead the tires will hit the fender. I have my bump stops sized so that I'm in the bump stop just before the tires contact the fenders.

On the street I just run a set of EVO 8 Enkei's w/ 245's, which of course tuck under the fenders fine.

While my Talon is not a daily driver anymore, I do not find it uncomfortable on the street.

I run 900F / 400R springs and Koni Sport shocks.


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Re: 1g front suspension, More travel needed [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #440082
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So assuming my shocks are just worn out.

Is it save to buy new Koni's and still run them at the end of their length with the bump stops reinstalled?

Or will that just destroy them? I'm not sure if they are designed to be run like that?

I forget what my springs are marked as...
I want to say 800/400, but it has been awhile


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