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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Stephen Richardson] #448263
May 04, 2016 03:43 am UTC
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Originally Posted by Stephen Richardson
Originally Posted by Charles Lavoie
So avg $100 / month as a cheap beater.

$1200 car last 1 Year.
$4800 car lasts 5 Years.

Right now.. the 2008 300C owes me nothing. It is at 309,000KM and running strong. She needs a little love in the sway bar bushings ,a little roof rust and half broken drivers door handle (ext)

Most issues worked out under warranty.
Out of warranty work was Radiator $(700) and my Cat issue (fixed with 2$ O2 Gapper )
I have changed the brake pads once and plugs twice.
I still get 27-30 mpg if I keep it under 100
Regular Oil Changes. That's it.


My situation is a bit different. I usually only buy a beater for 1 season then sell it for way more then i bought it ( other then Mr Gilberts of course)
Did you buy your 300c new?
oh I miss trade ins frown


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448267
May 04, 2016 02:42 pm UTC
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My 2008 300C new sticker price was $41,000. I bought it at 1 year old with 24,000KM on odometer (from dealer). Paid $24,000. It is the most I have ever paid for a car.

I needed near 100% reliability and I liked the idea of full warranty. + 340HP/390TQ w/ 27mpg rating was appealing. It was supposed to be fully loaded but I bought car sight unseen and it was missing NAV and adaptive Cruise.

Yes. The 300C is the 5.7 w/ MDS (Multi-Displacement System) Shutting off 4 cylinders on highway. I used to do Ottawa to Iroquois Falls on 7/8ths of a tank (700KM) if I didn't lay into the gas pedal)

I also agree that I almost never have it under 100. But for shits and giggles, I did a 30 min drive doing 80. I got 32mpg. Not bad for a big heavy car. My actual MPG is about 22-23 doing 120+.

Warranty work covered a new transmission and speed sensor issue.

Because I drive North (cochrane, ont) every couple months to see my daughter (or bring her back to ottawa), I need a car that is comfy and reliable and feel like a tank for safety. I still don't know what to get as my next beater. I may get another 300C.

It's too bad the US came and scooped up all our cheap cars. I used to be able to find 2008 C's for 6K. Cheapest one now is above 11K.

This was what I was aiming for:
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Just never did it due to life priorities. And now.. the talon.

P.S. Oh yeah, if you do go this route, you will need a MOOG front end. Dodge/Chrysler parts are crap for front end.

P.S.2: If you want to spend an extra 2500. Get a Sidewinder Cam, Predator Tune and lifters / spring from a 6.1. You will make 440WHP and 500TQ. (More than the SRT8 and STILL retain MDS which 6.1 doesn't have)

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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448270
May 04, 2016 03:44 pm UTC
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I was just busting your balls on the <100 thing (as I'm sure you know) but I'm (actually) impressed with how good the mileage is. Would have expected a fair bit less to be honest.

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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Salomon Ponte] #448280
May 04, 2016 05:46 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Salomon Ponte
I was just busting your balls on the <100 thing (as I'm sure you know)


Of course! This is on summers.

Winters.. different story. about 19-21 @ 120+ and 24-27 < 100
I knew that when I had a Talon as DD (before 300).. I was happy with 24MPG.

Current gas prices worry me. They are starting to climb to summer prices again, yet oil barrels are 1/3 the price of last year. WTF? What happens when oil barrels go back up. Will they jack the price again?


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448290
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Of course they will...that's how it always go. Unfortunately we're stuck with it, or so it would seem.

My DD '92 Laser RS Turbo FWD 5-Speed gets 26-28 MPG highway (low-mid 20's with city mixed in) and that's doing 120-140 (higher speed limits in Michigan) on average, so close to 4k RPM in 5th gear. I can only imagine how much better mileage I'd get if there was as 6th overdrive gear.


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448432
May 11, 2016 04:31 am UTC
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I used to use a 420a as my DD for quite a while. To be honest, it's a he'll of a lit more reliable then a 4g63 wink lol.
It was a solid engine and not too bad on fuel. 350mi/tank and that was hard driving. I haven't driven it in a couple years but it still starts and runs strong.


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448442
May 11, 2016 01:14 pm UTC
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What's that car look like again? wink


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Johnny Larmond] #448454
May 11, 2016 04:50 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Johnny Larmond
I used to use a 420a as my DD for quite a while.


I totally forgot it was 420a. Did you also pumped it with jet fuel ?


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448804
May 25, 2016 07:07 pm UTC
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well I ended up buying a cavalier today for my daily/winter beater. 130xxx kms working air and 100% rust free. safety and etested for an amazing price of... $1500 ! depending on what I find is wrong with my eclipse tonight I may be pulling it off the road and throwing my money at it


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448806
May 25, 2016 08:04 pm UTC
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Photos! Or it didn't happen.


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448808
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i'll post pics when I pick it up tonight smile


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448814
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448832
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yep its a j body lol


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Devon Bloomfield] #448850
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Probably the best decision you can make as a dsm owner


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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver? [Re: Manny Sandhu] #448854
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Originally Posted by Manny Sandhu
Probably the best decision you can make as a dsm owner


yes sir lol


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