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Southbend clutches, lets chat #451798
November 24, 2016 04:26 pm UTC
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So I had a Daily 2 on my 1g, installed a little over a year ago, now slipping in 2nd, 3rd, 4th with any amount of "fun" driving. I know how to drive standard, and this boggles my mind. Maybe I have a bad one?

Want to know what the people with the higher end Southbend have to say about them in terms of power capability and longevity as well as daily traffic experience. Had a ACT 2600 in the 1g before when I bought it. Hated it, way too hard for daily unless you want to beef up your left leg for later alien consumption (I'm sure they'll appreciate the muscle mass lol). May put the one in my 1g under hard treatment to test before I put one in my 2g.

Was thinking the endurance type, no need for drag as I will daily both cars. Just want something that can take traffic driving while still being able to hold power.

Will most likely buy ACT flywheel to go with it...even though I have a Fidanza here already.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451801
November 24, 2016 04:47 pm UTC
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What are your power levels at? From what I understand the daily is really only good for stockish power levels.
Although my factory organic clutch handled all that stuff.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451804
November 24, 2016 04:49 pm UTC
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My guess per similar set ups and low tuning on my part 260-280hp.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451807
November 24, 2016 04:57 pm UTC
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Yeah that's weird that my stock organic was able to handle more than your southbend setup.

So is it your first pull that you start having issues or is it after a few pulls that it starts slipping?


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451808
November 24, 2016 06:20 pm UTC
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Lal

Guess you shoulda saved your money and just stick with tried and true.

I've heard just as many issues with SB.... As ACT... But ACT has a lot longer history of luck.

I had what I thought was a SB disk.. Lasted about as l9by as the break in period. First pull with my 2600lb ACT plate... And toast.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451809
November 24, 2016 07:20 pm UTC
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Would the ACT 2100 do the job? I know there's no way in hell I'd go with a 2600 again.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451810
November 24, 2016 07:24 pm UTC
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If I were you I would be more curious as to why your clutch isn't handling what it should and taking a peak to see how it looks in there.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451811
November 24, 2016 07:49 pm UTC
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I've heard of a lot of stories of Southbend clutches being unhappy with Fidanza flywheels. I know Tim Zimmer always recommends against Fidanza due to longevity issues.

Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451814
November 24, 2016 09:14 pm UTC
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Also the step height has been contrversal with the SB disks. There not the same thickness as your average dsm disk.

I drive my 2600 with a 6 puck daily... I don't find it that bad.. Try the 2900 it feels lighter.

But agree with Bryan.. Maybe your leaking something onto the disk


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451815
November 24, 2016 10:00 pm UTC
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I had my South Bend clutch with Finanza fw for 3 years now with no issues. Works great and holds all of my power.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451816
November 24, 2016 11:15 pm UTC
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^ Which one?


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451820
November 25, 2016 12:59 am UTC
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I will have to the blame for Gui's clutch issues. When we did the clutch I had flywheel machined and ready to install. Unfortunately I had a 6 bolt and Guis engine is a 7. So instead of getting his machined. Because it was Saturday afternoon and It would of been Monday before it could get done. We reused a suspect flywheel and the clutch probably never broke in.

Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451821
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That being said my ACT 2100 holds well over what you want to run. And feels very stockish.

Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451824
November 25, 2016 02:22 am UTC
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I had that floating in my head, but I wouldn't have thought this could have been the culprit as it acted normal for a long time, taking the abuse. I just thought it'd last longer.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451825
November 25, 2016 02:27 am UTC
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Son you don't even know what step the flywheel had... Aswell as the SB disk not being the same thickness as any other disk.. Ya that's prolly the issue... It will barely hold untill it slips... Then it will always slip.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451826
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Exactly. Suspect flywheel.

Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451827
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So there is a chance you could just get the flywheel properly stepped.. And still run it.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Jay Stacey] #451828
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Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
Lal

Guess you shoulda saved your money and just stick with tried and true.

I've heard just as many issues with SB.... As ACT... But ACT has a lot longer history of luck.


I've yet to see a SB pressure plate have the fingers all out.

I had the stage 3 Endurance and it put up with 3 years of track use until the hub finally cracked and the springs came out. It was a great clutch and I don't blame the failure on it, it was highly abused.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451834
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I have the 6 puck sprung ceramic 2700lb


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451838
November 27, 2016 02:46 am UTC
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I was using the Southbend Stage 3 Drag. The name of it sounds more aggressive than it really is. IMO this is the clutch everyone should be using up to 650 WHP. OEM like pedal feel, light enough that chatter in non existent, ceramic 6 puck sprung. Held a few high 10 second passes in my car then completely slipped over 700 WHP. It doesn't even smell when it slips, it just completely lets go. Easier on the master, slave, and pedal assembly.

IMO less failures than the ACT design, but I am back on the ACT 2600 and 6 puck sprung now. So far its holding.


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Re: Southbend clutches, lets chat [Re: Guillaume Berton] #451852
November 29, 2016 04:02 pm UTC
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i had the southbend stage 2 daily with the fidanza wheel and held a 276 hp pull on the dyno and this was an early let off due to boost creep and knock

held up and never noticed a slip

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