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2 spider or welded #452857
April 07, 2017 05:10 pm UTC
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So Shandon put a welded center in there because he was making 600+ and was dragging the car a lot. Now that I am putting the 16g back on and will only be making 350ish I am trying to decide if I should just leave it or swap in the 2 spider. 4 spider isn't in the budget right now as I want one just like Mr. Drew.
I plan to upgrade the turbo eventually and will probably do the 4 spider than.

TLDR Will I be ok with 2 spider at 350ish tq


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Re: 2 spider or welded [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #452858
April 07, 2017 06:10 pm UTC
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A stock 2 spider in good condition should suffice at that power level if you're not launching really hard or with slicks. Way more driver friendly than a welded.

I've been conversing back and forth with Tim Zimmer for mine and it's definitely not cheap to do correctly but IMHO worth it for the long term.

I'm adding double thrust washers on the spider gears so in addition to clearencing the housing for the added gears, it must also be clearenced on the existing faces for the added width of an extra washer on each gear. I can see good reasoning for this as the diff I sacrificed for the spider gears' single washers were trashed, close to seizing up and way of spec on the end play. That causes the teeth to only engage at the tips, where they are the weakest. That diff was not far from eating it.

I'll have tons of pics to share soon.


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Re: 2 spider or welded [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #452859
April 07, 2017 06:44 pm UTC
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Yeah, a 2 spider will be sufficient. I've ran nothing but a 2 spiders without ever having issues. And I drive my cars hard. At the same time, I've always wanted to try a welded diff just never got around to it.


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Re: 2 spider or welded [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #452860
April 07, 2017 06:52 pm UTC
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Ok cool, thanks guys!! Lucian the one in there will be up for sale once I pull it wink


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Re: 2 spider or welded [Re: Lucian Marta] #452861
April 07, 2017 08:07 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Lucian Marta
Yeah, a 2 spider will be sufficient. I've ran nothing but a 2 spiders without ever having issues. And I drive my cars hard. At the same time, I've always wanted to try a welded diff just never got around to it.


If it's got 90 gearing you can have my old one to try tongue


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Re: 2 spider or welded [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #452862
April 07, 2017 08:14 pm UTC
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Well I only own a 1993 and I don't plan to ever put a welded diff, or any mods really on it - ever haha I was more so saying when/if I build another 1G (not the black 93) I would be tempted to try it smile


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