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Electronic boost control help needed #452896 April 17, 2017 02:41 am UTC April 17, 2017 02:41 am UTC
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 790 Sault Ste. Marie, ON Luke Smith OP Serious Member
Luke Smith OP Serious Member Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 790 Sault Ste. Marie, ON	So let me explain what's going on. Bought a used apexi avcr electronic boost controller. Installed it a while ago and then later found car wouldn't start. Looked at my ecmlink logs and found the was stuck at 100%. Thought my tps sensor was bad and changed it. Still had the same problem. This weekend decided to try cutting the wires for the apexi avcr off the ECU and was able to start the car. So I'm assuming something is going on with the apexi unit. So now I need to find a way to control boost. Thinking about trying to use the solenoid valve from the apexi unit to connect to ecmlink to do boost by gear but don't know if it's compatible or how to set it up. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys! 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD w/ 2Ga Eclipse conv. 1992 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo AWD Rest in Pieces

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452897 April 17, 2017 11:11 am UTC April 17, 2017 11:11 am UTC
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,438 Kitchener Ontario Stephen Richardson Insane Member
Stephen Richardson Insane Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,438 Kitchener Ontario	What Solenoid does the Apexi use?

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452898 April 17, 2017 11:36 am UTC April 17, 2017 11:36 am UTC
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 790 Sault Ste. Marie, ON Luke Smith OP Serious Member
Luke Smith OP Serious Member Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 790 Sault Ste. Marie, ON	It's just got the Apexi marking no other brand name I know of. 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD w/ 2Ga Eclipse conv. 1992 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo AWD Rest in Pieces

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452899 April 17, 2017 11:46 am UTC April 17, 2017 11:46 am UTC
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,438 Kitchener Ontario Stephen Richardson Insane Member
Stephen Richardson Insane Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,438 Kitchener Ontario	I remember there were some that Ecmtuning didnt recommend due to the blowing the BCS driver circuit. The IR 3 port from them is relatively inexpensive if you want to stay with what they recommend.

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452900 April 17, 2017 12:00 pm UTC April 17, 2017 12:00 pm UTC
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada Bryan Lawrence Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Bryan Lawrence Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada	Luke do you have a wiring diagram for the apexi "Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452902 April 17, 2017 04:41 pm UTC April 17, 2017 04:41 pm UTC
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,873 Los Angeles, California Alex Akachinskiy Insane Member
Alex Akachinskiy Insane Member Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,873 Los Angeles, California	Originally Posted by Luke Smith So let me explain what's going on. Bought a used apexi avcr electronic boost controller. Installed it a while ago and then later found car wouldn't start. Looked at my ecmlink logs and found the was stuck at 100%. Thought my tps sensor was bad and changed it. Still had the same problem. This weekend decided to try cutting the wires for the apexi avcr off the ECU and was able to start the car. So I'm assuming something is going on with the apexi unit. So now I need to find a way to control boost. Thinking about trying to use the solenoid valve from the apexi unit to connect to ecmlink to do boost by gear but don't know if it's compatible or how to set it up. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys! This is the one i use: source Did the apexi avcr electronic boost controller ever worked on your setup? or problem since first start? 1996 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 1999 Eclipse GST Automagic 1991 3000GT VR-4

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452903 April 17, 2017 06:59 pm UTC April 17, 2017 06:59 pm UTC
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,438 Kitchener Ontario Stephen Richardson Insane Member
Stephen Richardson Insane Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,438 Kitchener Ontario	Yep thats the IR solenoid.

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452904 April 17, 2017 07:07 pm UTC April 17, 2017 07:07 pm UTC
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,055 Stanstead, Quebec Jason Drew Insane Member
Jason Drew Insane Member Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,055 Stanstead, Quebec	I got that one for $28 from Zoro EDIT: it's gone up a bit but still way cheaper than Grainger https://www.zoro.com/aro-solenoid-air-control-valve-18-in-12vdc-p251ss-012-d/i/G1419713/ 1997 Eclipse GST - AWD swapped - TPC - GT Spec powered 2023 - 9.63 - 145mph

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #452906 April 17, 2017 08:55 pm UTC April 17, 2017 08:55 pm UTC
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 790 Sault Ste. Marie, ON Luke Smith OP Serious Member
Luke Smith OP Serious Member Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 790 Sault Ste. Marie, ON	Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy Did the apexi avcr electronic boost controller ever worked on your setup? or problem since first start? I never had it working. I wired it in to my car and that's when the tps problem started. Removed it from my car and problem went away. Originally Posted by Stephen Richardson I remember there were some that Ecmtuning didnt recommend due to the blowing the BCS driver circuit. The IR 3 port from them is relatively inexpensive if you want to stay with what they recommend. I will have to go look at the site again and see if I can find that list. Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence Luke do you have a wiring diagram for the apexi wired it up like the manual says to. 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD w/ 2Ga Eclipse conv. 1992 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo AWD Rest in Pieces

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Jason Drew] #452907 April 17, 2017 09:20 pm UTC April 17, 2017 09:20 pm UTC
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,873 Los Angeles, California Alex Akachinskiy Insane Member
Alex Akachinskiy Insane Member Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,873 Los Angeles, California	Originally Posted by Jason Drew I got that one for $28 from Zoro EDIT: it's gone up a bit but still way cheaper than Grainger https://www.zoro.com/aro-solenoid-air-control-valve-18-in-12vdc-p251ss-012-d/i/G1419713/ Good find! I use Zoro for other hard to find stuff such as egr plug. Never let me down Last edited by Alex Akachinskiy; April 17, 2017 09:22 pm UTC. 1996 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 1999 Eclipse GST Automagic 1991 3000GT VR-4

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452910 April 18, 2017 01:12 pm UTC April 18, 2017 01:12 pm UTC
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada Bryan Lawrence Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Bryan Lawrence Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada	Hm, that's weird. It shouldn't be messing with your signal considering it should just be reading it. I assume you used pin 84 for speed sensor. What is the car reading voltage wise on the tps? "Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!

Re: Electronic boost control help needed [Re: Luke Smith] #452911 April 18, 2017 01:47 pm UTC April 18, 2017 01:47 pm UTC
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada Bryan Lawrence Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Bryan Lawrence Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada	So I had some time this morning to do some more digging. Looks like the resistance is a pinch higher than the IR one which means it's not in the danger zone but I think you would need to check it to confirm it actually works. (I am no electrician though I am just basing that on what is said on the link website.) ref: http://dsmlink.com/wiki/bcschoice https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ecuflash/379043-bcs-testing-data-5.html "Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!

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