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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454174
December 19, 2017 02:39 pm UTC
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me neither! thats crazy!
Probably best it happen now instead of on the road


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454176
December 19, 2017 03:06 pm UTC
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Damn PEI salt... As Bryan said. Good thing it didnt happen on the road.

Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454178
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Car is not from PEI, pretty much rust free, claimed never winter driven at least by the last owner 15 years and it looks it. Glad it was not on the road when it happened also, I used to safety/inspect/repair cars and have never saw this one.


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: John MacPhail] #454179
December 19, 2017 07:57 pm UTC
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Holy shenanigans Batman!!! That is bonkers.


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454180
December 19, 2017 08:08 pm UTC
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That broke at the undercut at the edge of the weld.


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454181
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Be happy it didn't happen on the road!


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454182
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Looks like it rusted from both sides and there is not much metal to begin with. Rusted axle nuts will put up huge fight. Personally i could not get my original ones off until super heated them.

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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454183
December 20, 2017 10:42 am UTC
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Saw this the other day and thought it was cool but it's fracking expensive.

https://www.amazon.ca/Bolt-Buster-BB2-ACC-Handheld-Induction/dp/B00ATSL7VE


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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Saw this the other day and thought it was cool but it's fracking expensive.

https://www.amazon.ca/Bolt-Buster-BB2-ACC-Handheld-Induction/dp/B00ATSL7VE


They work really well, just very pricey for the home gamer where it only gets used once.


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #454187
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Saw this the other day and thought it was cool but it's fracking expensive.

https://www.amazon.ca/Bolt-Buster-BB2-ACC-Handheld-Induction/dp/B00ATSL7VE





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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454188
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Wow! Those have come way down in price.

Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454189
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I did some digging and they don't look like they would cost that much to build yourself, just won't be in a pretty package like the bolt buster


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #454191
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
I did some digging and they don't look like they would cost that much to build yourself, just won't be in a pretty package like the bolt buster


Build them. I'll buy one. Maybe group buy ? haha.


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Deep Mann] #454194
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Originally Posted by Deep Mann
Build them. I'll buy one. Maybe group buy ? haha.
Haha I will look into this next year once things have settled!


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454235
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Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy
Originally Posted by Reza Mirza
You need to use the stage 3 drag. It's a 6 puck sprung ceramic disk. Barely any chatter IMO and felt like stock. Held a few 10 second passes before it slipped on me last year. Those SB Kevlar disks slip and burn out too easily.

Thanks for the info.
I actually have ACT 2600 kit with street disk sitting on my shelf for over a year (i had both kits SB and ACT but went with SB when i installed your trans earlier this year).
I want to try street disk with heavier PP after my last two setups which are:
- ACT 2100 PP with 6 puck sprung
- SB with Kevlar disk.
Personally, i prefer firmer clutch pedal over stock. Another factor, my DSM is a street build with stock 7 bolt motor that does not see power above 420 AWHP.


Here is the latest update on slipping SB Kevlar clutch. It felt like it started to recover but slipped again going uphill in 4th. So i pulled the trigger and swapped to ACT 2600 with street disk and also my second trans that Reza built for me. Trans that was stolen by UPS but recovered after 4 months. It has EVO 1 gear set (17% taller 1st) with EVO 3 10% taller 5th.
I took advantage of recent holidays and got it done in 3 days. Here are some pics:

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No review yet on how gear ratio is, this weekend i'll take her for a ride.
However, ACT 2600 PP is defiantly very stiff compared SB and ACT2100.

*Also, i saved time by leaving front axles in wheel hubs. I saw JD did it this way and it worked for me really well too smile

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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454241
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[Linked Image]

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Here are some close up pics of kevlar disk and ACT flywheel.
Looks like most surface of Kevlar is covered with metal, which may explain why this disk couldn't hold 27 PSI. There are also burned spots on the flywheel. IF you look closely, most of the metal and burned spots are around the edges of flywheel and clutch disk. What do u guys think of that?

Just came back from test drive. EVO 1 gear set in my trans so far feels good. Taller 1st is really really nice. Now it surprise me why stock trans came with such short 1st gear. There is enough torque to handle 17% taller 1st.


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454242
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Interesting that your SB Kevlar disk says EXEDY on it..

I had a brand new disk from a part out I did a while back.. it looked like a SB disk... and said Exedy on it. I heard that was common.. but just assumed it was a Exedy disk. I installed it on my car.. with the plate it came with... spent 500kms breaking it in.. and first 25psi launch.. it slipped and never held again.

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11.81@119.

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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454243
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Also.. it looks like you had way too much lube on your shaft... that may have helped it slip.


After so many years with ACT2600 plates.. any thing else feels too light to be a race car clutch.

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11.81@119.

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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454245
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So how does one determine how much lube they need on their shaft? Is that determined by shaft size? Tightness of the hole? How much movement it will be seeing?


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Ziggy Dietrich] #454248
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Originally Posted by Ziggy Dietrich
So how does one determine how much lube they need on their shaft? Is that determined by shaft size? Tightness of the hole? How much movement it will be seeing?


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Jay Stacey] #454251
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Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
Interesting that your SB Kevlar disk says EXEDY on it..

I had a brand new disk from a part out I did a while back.. it looked like a SB disk... and said Exedy on it. I heard that was common.. but just assumed it was a Exedy disk. I installed it on my car.. with the plate it came with... spent 500kms breaking it in.. and first 25psi launch.. it slipped and never held again.


Good eye Jay, i didn't pay attention the disk was actually made by Exedy. Here is close up pic of the disk (Surface was cleaned for better visibility):

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^ I think the disk itself is great but SB PP is way too weak. It could be a really nice combo if used with ACT 2600 PP or higher.

Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
After so many years with ACT2600 plates.. any thing else feels too light to be a race car clutch.

Speaking about ACT PP. After driving for 2 days i started liking it a lot. It does grab fairly close to the floor (about half way) with master adjusted to Jack's tutorial but so far it's livable. The stiffens could become an issue during heavy bumper to bumper traffic but engament with street disk is very satisfying so far. I just hope it will hold my launches after breaking period is over.

Regarding my new trans, so far the most satisfying upgrade is EVO 3 5th gear. Here is the snapshot that shows RPM vs Speed. At 120km/h my factory 5th gear was sitting at 3500rpm. With EVO 3 it dropped to 3100. It's much more quieter and can do near 140 before i hit 3500rpms. Maintaining higher speeds on freeway feels smooth & easy. I highly recommend this upgrade if you like to cruise a lot in 5th!
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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454252
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Jason, exedy probably makes 99% of all the hubs used in all the clutch disks you see. That is pretty standard. These companies like ACT or SB get exedy hubs and manufacture their own clutch disk around it.


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Exedy also make 99% of all OEM friction disc's. So it isnt that uncommon to see

The excess shaft lube would cause chattering long before any slippage. Oil or grease will cause hotspots on friction materials and cause grabbing not slippage. Different then a rearmain or input shaft seal leak that would soak the disc and cause slippage.

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Just checked hubs on my last few clutches:

ACT 6puck & street disk
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^If ACT hub marked ACT does it still mean it was not made by ACT?

RX8 OEM Clutch kit

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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454257
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^ looking good. Is there anything better than toying with those things in heated garage when it's cold outside? ... and firing up on the first day of spring smile


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Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454262
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Some day I will have heat in my garage.



11.81@119.

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Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy
^ looking good. Is there anything better than toying with those things in heated garage when it's cold outside? ... and firing up on the first day of spring smile


This is my first time having a heated garage for the winter, it is my buddies place and so far I am loving it! Spring startup is something i am looking forward to kind of like the little car and interested in trying some power through the AutoMagic!


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Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
Some day I will have heat in my garage.


Likewise lol.

It does heat up a little after the oven has been on half a day but still not sweater comfortable.


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Haven't done any "build" yet but I did mess around with it a little lol



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Originally Posted by Jason Drew
Haven't done any "build" yet but I did mess around with it a little lol



you just turned some snow mixed with engine bearings into a masterpiece video! Keep them coming ... perfect selection on tunes once again tu



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Why no side exit death? frown


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Yeah I thought you were pulling up for side exit


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and where is the stock muffler


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I tried the side exit and with it and the rear open, the exhaust pressure is too low, LOTS of flow but not enough restriction to get a high pressure blast like the rear alone...this mean it's doing it's job perfectly of reducing the back pressure smile

The last place I drove the car before hibernation was at the track and in the USA so no need for the stock muffler lol


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Jay Stacey Online sleepy
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It is the right day for it!



11.81@119.

Or 12.04@125

Depends how I launch.
Re: Winter Build 2017 [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #454412
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Any day is the right day for getting head...


"bluebird" worlds fastest scooter ridden by me
"Whitebird" RIP
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