Due to high entertainment such as this....

http://www.guzer.com/videos/girl_fight3.php

I believe that women should have thier own ultimate figher show. I mean....who WOULDN'T want to see that!? Now imagine scenes like this, add tight fighting gear and a storyline, It would be the most watched show on tv! Time for girls to step up and get some of the action too! I think it would be not only entertaining to men, but also a chance for females to be able to once again prove that we can do anything guys can do. Now I am sure there will be quite a debate over this, and all im saying is that I think it would be awsome to give women a chance to fight ufc style. While some of you may find it un"lady-like", I think that most would agree that women have proven that they can hold thier own in contact sports. Look at Layla Ali. She may have good genes, but she is one HELL of a boxer! I bet she could take on half of the male boxers on tv right now and beat them. Ok im done now. Enjoy....

Wow the white girl got destroyed.... pretty crazy scrap!

Yeah, they needed that ref dude from the UFC to cover up the white chick after she fell.

I think that the "kick while she was down" cost the other chick a few points from the judges.

I'm all for women UFC!

I love the hammer fist punches, most under-rated technique in mixed martial arts today....well that and hair pulling.

Thats fcking discusting most of all the kick while she was down.

nathan your just mad cause you get beat up by girls. (jk)

I'm with Nathan, further injury to someone who is clearly out of the fight is just plain wrong I don't care what sex/race/ability either fighter is.

Jesus... that wasn't a fight!

I think it was more of a beating!

i will admit the kick was a bit much....wouldn't want to be in her shoes, however we don't know the circumstances of the fight so she may have deserved it LOL
Hence, the reason for my post, stating that women should be able to fight in a supervised environment such as the UFC.

we are made of 80% fire!!

Kicking someone in the face like that when there already down is uncalled for, I've seen it happen in real life before and it ****in pisses me off, had I had any friendship with whoever got kicked in the face, I'd definitely throw the boots to punk who laid the cheap shot.

only hot girls shoud be allowed to fight, ugly chicks should have a spelling B or something to resolve conflicts.

why would you wanna see a pretty girl get her face smashed in?

I can just imagine a reality show based on girls in the UFC. While together they would all pat themselves on the back and tell each other how great they are. While they are alone they would tell the camera guy what a bitch/slut/whore the other ones are and how they better watch themselves. News would get back to the other competitors and they would begin to sabotage any chances the others have for winning while still pretending to be nice to one another. And when they get in the ring it be a furball of action. No girl would be pretty after going on that show.

edit - I can't Spell

I dont think girls look good in fights. It's like throwing two animals into a ring and locking the doors and watching the fight. It's just not right, they were never ment to be in a ring and forced to fight. Girls should sit on the bleachers and look pretty, guys should fight it out in the ring, not the woman.

If you've lost interest in male boxing or UFC, clearly you're just not happy with what we have and want more, without even knowing the reason, all you guys can say is "they're girls". If thats what your reason is for throwing two people in the ring and beating the **** out of each other, than maybe you should consider throwing yourself off a tall building, because I for one would not like to see this, nor would I respect it in any way.

Girls should sit on the bleachers and look pretty, guys should fight it out in the ring, not the woman.

If thats what your reason is for throwing two people in the ring and beating the **** out of each other, than maybe you should consider throwing yourself off a tall building, because I for one would not like to see this, nor would I respect it in any way. [/QB][/QUOTE] (this was supposed to appear in a quote BTW)

OK just to set you straight...i was talking about UFC...you know....that show where people train FOR A LIVING and get PAID to fight. They are not just forcefully "thrown" in a ring for other's amusement. And I don't think those girls in the video were "thrown" together either. I was simply stating that it would be nice for women who want to share in some similar career moves, to have a shot at UFC as well.
So you don't condone fighting but you seem to have no problem telling people to THROW themselves off buildings.

You go girl .

I was aiming my remarks at the group in general who condones woman fighting. There are already boxing clubs, matches, and woman fighting leages or what have you.. but there's clearly a reason why it's not a BIG thing, because it just probably sucks to watch. I don't care what women you throw into a ring, it's never going to be the same as watching two huge guys go at it. Thats why you don't see it on TV.

You posted this "street fighting" video and said there should be a show about this with full gear, which isn't half bad, maybe I understood it wrong, and my comment for jumping off a building, goes out to anyone who would knowingly enjoy watching two women kick each other half to death, not necessarily at you.... unless YOU enjoy that kind of stuff

p.s.: Besides, we don't need any more tom-boy girls on the streets, we have enough hicks and redneck daughters walking our streets already. You know how TV affects the children

Fighting is going to happen no matter what. Males/females, anger happens. No use crying over it like a little girl.
I happen to enjoy watching womens boxing and have thought about getting into it myself.
Im not saying I enjoy watching bloody fights, but they usually happen for a reason, usually by people who cant control thier anger. I have been to a lot of schools where there is a female bully who just beats the hell out of whoever she wants for whatever reason, making all us "bleacher, flag waving chicks" scared. I think that a televised show that grows in popularity like (UFC) Ultimate Fighter did, showing that females can also fight for a living, would perhaps encourage more girls to get into some sort of self defence type programs so they can be MORE then just "bleacher bimbos" who can't defend themselves, if they do get into a situation where said bully decides it's their lucky day.
And FURTHERMORE encourage these bully girls to join a boxing or private fighting league so they have a place to direct thier anger and vent it out, aiding in thier physical fitness and keeping it away from others who shouldn't have to be forced into dealing with it. Thats all.

That's fine, I`m ok with "organized" events, just not a fan of random beatings, especially when it happens to girls, I`m having a problem with the video more than with what you're saying.

I just don't enjoy see'ing people get hurt for no reason, which that video showed, althought we don't know the reason behind a fight, but you yourself said people don't know how to control their anger, and that's how that fight got started, which is total horse sh1t, that's all I`m trying to say.

As for the women's UFC showing that women can fight for a living, nobody in this thread said women can't fight.. I just said they SHOULDN'T - therefore they have nobody to prove it to, because ANYBODY can fight, but it takes someone special to be an idiot like the girls in the video.

Again, I`m not going against your opinions, simply stating mine, no hard feelings.

I like boobs.

I concur.

ya Nate.....WE KNOW!

sarah: if anything i am about to say offend you, i'll appologize now.
you F****** WIMPS. some of the best fights i have ever seen have been between properly trained women, not the cat fights you see in the bar. sit there and look pretty? you make your woman pump the gas and then pay for it too, right? i've met some really tough women over the years, some prettier then other, but the one thing that made them all hot was that they were tough! i have to agree with sarah here. there should be far more avenues for women fighters. histoy is filled with accounts of women in combat, even going to war. when it comes to fighting, women can be just as good as men.
and as for kicking some one when there down; the way i learned to fight ( and this goes for most of the people i run with)is to keep fighting till he stops moving. if some one comes at you on the street, their looking to hurt you, or worse. be the one that gets to goe home. any real fighter gets into this mindset, even in training. it's how they get good.

Hmmm Yes, maybe you could get a job with the U.S Gov't lets solve everything with violence and beat some "shock" and "awe" into people by kicking when they are down.

I dont think drawing parallels guided cruise missles and kicking someone when they are in a fetal position is far fetched either in case you were wondering!

You paint an interesting picture too! Running around and kicking people when they are down... classy.

Now all this said, I understand you may be in a different line of work and so your methods may be needed for your survival. I just dont need to kick many people in the face as a psy/soc major!! Although that would present some interesting opportunities for cross-sectional studies.

Ok, so basically if someone runs up to you and kicks you - they have automatically sentenced themselves to death in your eyes, because you will continue to pound on them untill they have no breath left, their heart stops and most of their facial bones are broken, but you don't stop there, you keep kicking them in their face when they're lying lifeless on the pavement because you have to show just how much of a killer you are.

I think you have reached your usefullness as a human being after making this post, personally I would hate to be the father or a mother of a boy who picks a fight with you over $40 or something and winds up dead or forever being stuck in a wheel chair because of your baseless beliefs that you should kill someone over a fight.

It's people like you that hold this mentality that lead to unnecessary killings, and beatings. And don't tell me you just want to get them unconcious, because in a fight, you, him, or anybody else will be very reluctant to stop the fight and tell you if he still has a pulse, if he's down - you`ll just keep on beating on him.

I tried to keep it light Jon, thats what I learned in soc lol if you can keep them laughing with you then they wont try to hunt you down and kill your pets.

lol, I understand, but I have seen so much of this, and so often recently that it makes me sick to my stomach that this kind of thinking or behaviour is perfectly acceptable by the masses and society as a whole. I`m sure there will be someone who comes on here and cheers him on that "that" is infact a good strategy.

Ahh, but I`ll probably receive my share of critisicm for this, saying I don't know what I`m talking about, or that I did not grow up on the streets or something else just as weak of an argument, maybe I should just give up and let the world kill itself, ohh wait.. too late.

I think you are blowing his post out of proportion there "jon". What Cameron is clearly saying it that its a dog eat dog world out there, and in a situation such as an attempted rape, murder, mugging, you truly would be fighting for your life and I know if some ass**** was trying to rape me I would kick him til he wasnt moving. I dont think he meant "hey lets go around kicking randon people" Please fully read and understand each reply before you take cheap shots at people like this.

Huh? At which point did he say he will use this only when getting raped/robbed/whatever? He said this is how he learned to fight, and said this is how fighters get better? Where did I go wrong with my post about saying that is wrong?

If you can prove to me this is "right" then I will back off. And I`m speaking stricly street fights, where you or somebody bumps into you and you start exchanging words, the guy pushes you, and you beat him untill he's unconcious, tell me what is right about that. And also show me where in his post - he said that IS NOT what he is talking about, and that his post was aimed at only rapings and robbery.

We were shown a video of a street-fight, then talk about a TV show, where did you get the idea he's talking about last line of self-defence against death or rape by a stranger on the street?

Before anyone starts taking things personally, I want everyone to know these are only my opinions and I don't enforce them upon anyone, its only my way of thinking and saying what in my mind is right and wrong, dont making a flaming war out of this.

I think this about sums it up, if your wondering where I got that from.

ok jon, here it is. i'm not talking about gang beating or sticking a knife in someone over a jacket or a pair of shoes. if you take a shot at me, i will swing back. if it ends there, great. if not, it's up to the other person to back of and walk away.
where i live, there has been a number of incidents where people have been badly injured or killed. the one that stiks out in my mind was the poor bugger that ended up in a coma for wearing a kilt downtown. he and a friend got swarmed and beaten real bad. for waring a kilt. think about that. im not advocating violence. i've seen enough and been through enough that i'd be very happy to go through the rest of my life without another fight. but the simple fact is that there are people that will not let you walk away, and i will be the one that gets to go home. period. its the touchy, feely people that end up encouraging violence cause they can not except the fact that there are people in the world that get off on hurting others. that video only shows the fight, not what caused it. do you know what got it started? i don't, and without that knowledge, you can't make any judgment, can you.

No I cannot. But I do not know what kind of person you are. Maybe you're one of the punks who simply looks for a scrap any chance he gets. Or maybe you're the guy on the receiving end of that. If I were to be approached by some 16 year old punk who calls my GF a whore or something, then yes, I'd beat him the **** out of him and leave him with a broken leg/arm/nose/etc.. but I wouldnt proceed to kick him untill he's not moving.

If he's carrying a knife/bat/whatever, I would maybe take it further, but basically I think as he's no longer a threat to me, I've done my job, no point in proving my case anymore with him. If you agree with me then we're fine, but either way my opinion still stands that senseless beating with no outcome or goal in mind have no reason to exist, wether they are on the street, in the ring, and ON or OFF the TV set.

It was funny to see Joey Buttafuco beat up chyna. Good ole FOX network.

now your getting the idea jon. i've never started a fight in my life, but i've ended a few. i was raised to walk away when ever possible but some times you cant. i know from experience that ehen you are in a knock down, drag out fight, instict will take over and you will not stop until the threat is no longer there.

Bottom line this world sucks sometimes, and its getting worse. Guess being from the country its still a shock when I hear about a student beaten to death over words exchanged.

Intrestingly enough I am starting a study on the cause/effect of gangs. Its going to be interesting, not sure if I will end up beat for asking questions on the street to kids from different ethnic backgrounds. You may or may not know but london is starting to catch up to other major cities in gang activites and violent crimes commited by 'young offenders'. This new Youth Criminal Justice Act leaves alot to be desiered however.
anywho
rant off

nate

Personally I think the youngsters are too well protected from everything.. I really don't know what the average murder charge is for a 16year old, but I`m sure it's beans compared to what should be done to them.

Personally I believe in same-incident charges, for example if you break someone's leg, you get the same.. this extends all the way to murder, but then again thats just me, and I know it's politically incorrect, but if someone killed or crippled a member of my family, I wouldn't want anything less for them.

they make exceptions in some cases. There are a history of trials where children who have comitted vicious crimes have been tried as adults.

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/asswhoop.html

this is pretty hardcore...guy gets the **** kicked outta him while hes knocked out on the ground.

oh man....that looks like every idiot coming out of the bars on a saturday night downtown. people should know just to ignore them. That was a low blow.