Seadoos
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Mike Jackson
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So for someone thinking about posibly getting into the realm of personal watercraft where should I start? Anyone want to give me a quick run down of the basics so when I start looking I know what I am looking for?
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Re: Seadoos
[Re: Mike Jackson]
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August 06, 2007 03:33 am UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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Skidoos on the water, they can be a bit prone to breakage because of their hyper little engines. I'll assume you'll be running it on a mid-size to large lake. It all comes down to what you want to do. A fun little runabout for one? For two? Pull a skier? Super speed? Maybe move to a mini-jetboat type? From what I've seen lately they all seem to offer pretty much identical models, so you'll get the same treatment from the major brands. The most interesting ones I saw were the newest turbocharged ones. Perfect for shoehorning in a T-25 or 14b that you have lying around...
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Re: Seadoos
[Re: Troy Jollimore]
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August 06, 2007 02:09 pm UTC
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Mike Jackson
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Usually small to mid sized lakes. I want to be able to pull a tube or water-skier behind at a decent rate. Is there a minimum hp I should be looking at or are they all pretty mch capable to do that?
Are motorized boats like cars... do you need insurance? What should that run me?
Is the used market fairly safe for these things or is it fairly easy to wreck the motors and then try to sell them off?
What are the more reliable brands? Which brands are known to be over priced?
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Re: Seadoos
[Re: Chris Wyatt]
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August 06, 2007 07:45 pm UTC
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Scotty Mac
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Get a Sea-Doo GTX supercharged LoL. Over 200 hp and it pulls like my streetbike. Retarded.
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Re: Seadoos
[Re: Scotty Mac]
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August 08, 2007 12:06 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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I'm not sure about Ontario, but down here they are categorized like boats so you need some form of insurance, and I'm not sure about the operator's license. You should be able to check locally for that.
And yeah, the motors tend to go on them relatively quickly. But they can be easy to fix if you're mechanically inclined.
The smaller ones can't pull a skier or tube. You'd be looking at a 2-up model or one of the faster ones for that. I'm thinking...85hp and up?
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Re: Seadoos
[Re: Troy Jollimore]
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August 08, 2007 01:00 pm UTC
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Tim Hunt
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All PWC's require an operator card at this point in time, they were the first to fall under the 100% requirement for the licencing program. The only exception to this rule is rental companies, who give you a safety briefing, operation guidelines and require you to stay in an area that they define if you do not have an operator card. One PWC by itself is boring, you really need people to go out with to make them enjoyable. James made a good comment about the XP's, I had an XP Ltd and swapped it out for a GSX Ltd, and although it had lots of power(110). The problem with the XP's is they have a suspension seat that shortens it a bit and also add's weight to the machine but towing a tube was a bit of a tough chore with either. Pre 1997 XP's were smaller but decently quick but totally unsuitable for towing a tube. 800cc machines are 110 hp+ the minimum I would look at For towing anything you will need a 3 seater really to do it safely especially if you are towing younger riders, also expect then to get tired out on the tube so you need to be able to bring them aboard the machine if need be, something you can't do on a 2 seater. The 4 stroke machines are quiter, heavier, and use more gas, they are technically more efficient but you are moving a heavier machine that carries more gas, therefor you consume more fuel. The balance of the machine is also off, being front heavy so if you get to the point of doing wave jumping etc they tend to nosedive. Knowing your family situation what I would consider getting is one of the Sea-Doo jet boats, they have the ability to go places that a regular outboard/inboard boat cannot go, plus =you have the ability to go out in a group of 4, go tubing etc, and be able to pack up a cooler for drinks/lunches and you can also put a sunshade top on them if needs require. They are still a little unsuitable for towing a strong water-skier as without the out-drive of a true motor they lack straight line stability and a skier pulling hard to the outside can pull the boat off line.
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Re: Seadoos
[Re: Tim Hunt]
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August 08, 2007 01:44 pm UTC
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Mike Jackson
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Good info guys. I have an operator card actually. I got it at the Toronto Grand Prix of all places. I never read a book or pamphlet or anything and took the test getting only 3 wrong. Do the jet boats fit in the garage? What I really want is just something to fit in the garage and take out a half dozen times a year. Bonus if I could fit something else in the garage at the same time like a bike . I also don't want to break the bank. I was definately thinking 3 seater for sure. If I got new all the new model sea-doos have 140hp min. it seems. Guess I have enough to go on here... time to go to a dealer and check out the boat trader.
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