i have an A/F guage lined up to buy...I'm just wondering if has any use at all......i know a lot of people go for egt's, but I'm personally not going to be going crazy w/ my car.......

just basic mods....re-wire, k&n, test pipe, 2.5" catback, 2g exh. man (soon to come), will be getting a MBC over the holidays too....

should the a/f suffice for what i intend to do w/ my car?

thanks for any help

I think its very worth it. Egt's ar better but when you racing, its alot harder to read a egt then it is to see green.

I know my gauge saved my motor a few times

thanks jeff...

If your getting an a/f guage at least get a digital one, the blinky autometer one is crap.
Personally i'd get an egt gauge over an a/f gauge.

Why do you only ahve to buy one. I have both. Like i said the egt gague is more accurate, and better to tune off of. But an air fuel gauge is not a bad thing. Like i have said its helped me a few times.

i would get an egt guage but i don't have the money....i have an ultra-lite a/f and boost/vac lined up for $45 each....so i thought i would probably be worth it

OK Jeff Smith,, I know you are a bullshitting Fake,,, Moreso when you are still looking to buy a DSM.... Soooooooo,I'm calling your bluff,,, When you're running 6800RPM's in 5th gear,,
#1. What is your A/F ratio?
#2. What is your temp of the EGT showing after 8 minutes at this engine revs?
#3. And the easiest question,what is your speed at 6800RPM's??
#4. Which exhaust port is the optimum one to put the EGT sensor into?
#5.. Just to see if your a complete idiot,, which head flow's the better,a 1g or a 2g?
#6. What is the better block? the 6 bolt,or the 7 bolt?
#7. Is the 14G turbo better than a T25?
#8. Does the lighter 3-bolt rear end,
outflow the 4-bolt rearend with the Standard Non-LSD rearend?
#9.Which final ratio gives the better top speed? The 3:62 of the 1g,, or the 3:48 of the 2g??
And finally,as D.Letterman would say,,
#10. What weighs more,, a 1g,a 2g, or my BALLS???

"Round 1" FIGHT

i'm starting to regret that i even started thi s thread

Haha, nice Bob, nice.

Back on topic. I wouldn't bother with an A/F gauge unless you want something cool that lights up on your A-pillar. You can't tune with them, and when your car goes into open loop (WOT), they fast become even more useless.

With your mods (ie no fuel mods) you could probably get away with neither. If you do decide to get one, PLEASE get an EGT.

However you are getting a good deal on the boost gauge, so DEFINATELY grab that up assuming it is either a) new or b) make sure all the connections are with it.

Hope this helps.

*edit* If you can get your Talon to Lethbridge, I can lend you my pocketlogger for a few days. Best way to tune...

A/F gauge is not useless, but it's pretty close. The only thing I found it good for was for pretty girls asking me what it does.

I think an A/F gauge for a mildly modded car is just fine. Even the blinky light ones. You look at the blinky lights and if they're in the green you're OK. If they're not, you figure out why. People tuned like this for years before the EGT craze came about and they did just fine. And EGT is a good supplement to the A/F once you've got more mods.

If nothing else they're useful for diagnosing a failing O2 sensor and impressing the ladies.

Get a pocketlogger or borrow someone's to tune the car every now and then, especially when you first start playing with the boost.... I don't see the need for seeing the A/F ratio every time you drive the car.

And if you really want to see the a/f ratio, you can build an a/f gauge for like $5.00.

hey adrian...

are you talking about the myzero.com a/f guage?
I would much rather get an a digital a/f....i think i'm going to hold off on the a/f guage and save up for an egt...might as well do it right the first time instead of spending money i don't need to.

thanks for the help you all