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Pros and Cons #47035 December 30, 2006 04:16 pm UTC December 30, 2006 04:16 pm UTC
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia T Troy Bennett OP Serious Member
Troy Bennett OP Serious Member T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia	I have a 93 TSI FWD that I am putting together and I was courious about a tranny. I have both a Turbo FWD and an AWD tranny and I have the means to make the AWD work in the FWD car. Is it beneficial to use the AWD because of better gearing? And is there a way to bypass the center diff. Or would welding it solid be enough??? Looking for some ideas here. Everythings new. Updates will be soon.

Re: Pros and Cons #47036 January 07, 2007 08:46 pm UTC January 07, 2007 08:46 pm UTC
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 143 ON B bryan clayton Regular Member
bryan clayton Regular Member B Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 143 ON	all you need is a vce. Which is a viscous coupler eliminator. Awd's use it to be able to switch their cars into FWD mode to dyno. You can just use it permanently, they go anywhere from 70-200 dollars. 92 Tsi Awd HX40 87 Turbo II FC3S

Re: Pros and Cons #47037 January 08, 2007 01:09 pm UTC January 08, 2007 01:09 pm UTC
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia T Troy Bennett OP Serious Member
Troy Bennett OP Serious Member T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia	I know all about the VCE. I have one for my 2G so I can tune my car on my dyno. This really doesent answer my question though. I wanted to know if its better to go with the AWD tranny for the better gearing? ANd would wekding the canter diff be strong enough to hold up useing it as a fwd tranny? Everythings new. Updates will be soon.

Re: Pros and Cons #47038 January 08, 2007 03:01 pm UTC January 08, 2007 03:01 pm UTC
Joined: Sep 1998 Posts: 7,944 Halifax, NS Troy Jollimore Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Troy Jollimore Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Sep 1998 Posts: 7,944 Halifax, NS	I'd put the AWD gears (better gearing) into the FWD case (lighter), if possible. If not, I'd think the lighter weight of the FWD tranny would win out.

Re: Pros and Cons #47039 January 08, 2007 11:23 pm UTC January 08, 2007 11:23 pm UTC
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia T Troy Bennett OP Serious Member
Troy Bennett OP Serious Member T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia	A little extra weight over the wheels might not be a bad thing considdering the power it will have and lack of traction. But I may see if I can put it all in the FWD case, Everythings new. Updates will be soon.

Re: Pros and Cons #47040 January 09, 2007 02:15 am UTC January 09, 2007 02:15 am UTC
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 152 Kingston ON W wade harrison Regular Member
wade harrison Regular Member W Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 152 Kingston ON	I think the AWD 1st gear is shorter than the FWD. Depending on how much power your making, that could be detrimental, as you'd be hitting redline sooner. 89 Colt 4g63t

Re: Pros and Cons #47041 January 09, 2007 02:59 am UTC January 09, 2007 02:59 am UTC
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 118 Toronto (Scarborough) Souraj Mehri Member
Souraj Mehri Member Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 118 Toronto (Scarborough)	I have an AWD tranny in my FWD. So far I really like it. It really helps with traction when the center diff is welded. No more 1 wheel burnouts. And the longer 5th is great on the highway. Power wise I wouldn't know, my damn Megasquirt is still not installed. 91AWD->FWD 2G pistons, ARP (main,rod and head), ACT 2600, 72Lbs injectors, RS49T, MSD External Pump, Megasquirt, FMIC+2.5ICP, 3"Turbo Back, FPR, CIM, ported 2g exhaust manifold and O2 housing

Re: Pros and Cons #47042 January 09, 2007 12:28 pm UTC January 09, 2007 12:28 pm UTC
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia T Troy Bennett OP Serious Member
Troy Bennett OP Serious Member T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia	Thanks for the input. This is really helpful. I need a center diff. The guy who welded this one messed it up and now it cant be used. So once I get one I will be back on track on that current build. ANd the guy who messed the diff up will probably read this but cant reply because hes not signed up. So he cant defend himself... haha..... Hes got a good excuse.... I guess... Everythings new. Updates will be soon.

Re: Pros and Cons #47043 January 10, 2007 04:56 pm UTC January 10, 2007 04:56 pm UTC
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,117 North Bay/ In a hole 300km nor... Matt Toeppner Serious Member
Matt Toeppner Serious Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,117 North Bay/ In a hole 300km nor...	I would think that you would want FWD gearing in a FWD car, just my opinion though. The lower gearing of a AWD is just going to be a pain in the ass down the road, you will want the power up in the higher rpm's, hence the higher gearing of a FWD tranny.... 08 Kawasaki KLR 650 - New toy 92 Laser RS AWD - SOLD 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee - Bush Toy

Re: Pros and Cons #47044 January 10, 2007 10:20 pm UTC January 10, 2007 10:20 pm UTC
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia T Troy Bennett OP Serious Member
Troy Bennett OP Serious Member T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,002 Nova Scotia	Were mainly looking at ET times. WHatever will work best on the track on a FWD car with slicks. Everythings new. Updates will be soon.

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