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Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9160
February 28, 2000 06:03 pm UTC
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Greetings all!

Discovered I blew out a fog lamp a couple weeks back... Went to Satan and discovered they want to charge me $48 for the bulb alone, or $93 for the entire unit! [Linked Image]

So my question is... If I'm going to be spending big bucks just to repair the damn things... why not go aftermarket? Has anyone had any experiences with aftermarket Fog Lights? Recommendations/Alternatives? Good,Bad, Etc?

Just that these stock bulbs don't seem to last anytime at all... or is it just me? [Linked Image]

Thanks!
Glenn.

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February 28, 2000 10:16 pm UTC
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Whoops... quoted you old prices [Linked Image] THe bulbs from Satan are actually $48 if they're in stock... which they're not... or $115 to order...go figure.

Glenn.

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February 29, 2000 01:07 am UTC
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The dealership quoted me around $90 for a replacement bulb when I had one burn out. I was all ready to get replacement fogs just like you until I found the bulbs at Canadian Tire for about $5 a piece.

Check it out before you go the expensive route. [Linked Image]

Jeff Mitchell

Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9163
February 29, 2000 03:04 am UTC
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Hey, if your going with aftermarket foglights, dont get the puny one's that so small, its like a dot when your facing the car. Get a much bigger one than that. Just my 0.2 cents. [Linked Image]

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Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9164
February 29, 2000 05:14 am UTC
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If you wait for about 2 days I'll have photos on my webpage of my new bosch foglights that almost fit the stock opening perfect. (Crappy tire rectangular bosch high intensity ones)

Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9165
March 02, 2000 12:37 am UTC
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I decided to go a little fancy on mine, i put 2 foggers on eachi side in place where the stock one had been, a nice round and and a smal cat eye. i'll post a pic as soon as i figure out how to put it in my message to show you, does the job nice now that i have 4 55w h4 lights on my bumper with the h4 conversion kit in my main lamps its get the hell outs my way mode hehe.

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Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9166
March 02, 2000 04:10 pm UTC
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Saw a set of these on the net... based on the dimensions they look like they would fit [Linked Image]

A bit pricey, but hey... ya get what ya pay for [Linked Image]
http://www.fet-usa.com/catalog2a.htm

Hmm... decisions decisions!

Glenn.

Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9167
March 02, 2000 09:21 pm UTC
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Either buy Catz or Piaa's. Piaa's are expensive but are worth it cause they have lifetime waranty!! Roadboy/Toucan and other cheapos often burn out quickly and break easy. Alot of piaa's even shine like projectors if u like that look. I do [Linked Image]
Anyway g-luck.

Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9168
March 04, 2000 07:53 am UTC
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Same thing happened to me. Foglights burned out, and I replaced it with a $4.00 H3, 55 Watt Bulb. This is on a 2G by the way. No point spending more money when a $4.00 bulb will do right? [Linked Image]

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Glen,
I have 10 years on the original fog bulbs. [Linked Image]

The problem with the stock fogs is simply that they're fogs, so they throw a short, wide low beam. Bigger bulbs (100W) will help, but the optics are still all wrong.

If you want an effective ultimate lowball replacement for an early 1G, wire in two headlights with the low beam burnt out in place of the fogs. I think there's a vfaq to rewire so they come on with the highbeams, not the low.

Next step up is to get a set of Hella E-code headlights for $100. Get the place to swap the 55w/60w bulbs for 90w/100w.

If you have a car without popups, I think your only option for good light is to replace the fogs with driving lamps and do the rewire.

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March 04, 2000 08:42 pm UTC
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While we're on the subject of driving/fog lights, I had an install question. Is it possible to just cut the plug off the end of the stock fog light wires, then use those to power the new foglights? Or do you have to run all new wire from a switched power source?

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Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9171
March 04, 2000 09:12 pm UTC
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the stock wiring works just fine with aftermarket fogs.

Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9172
March 08, 2000 02:41 pm UTC
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Hey George,

I don't really have any complaints with the beam pattern of the stock lamps... just that it feels like I'm replacing one of the bulbs every 3 or four months.

I mean, if the bulbs are available at CanTire for cheap.. then it only becomes the hassle of changing them out... $300 buys a lot of bulbs! [Linked Image]

The reason why I was thinking of going aftermarket was so that I could get a set of dichroics.. (i.e. sealed lens/bulb) so that they wouldn't be blowing out so often.

Cheers
Glenn.

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March 08, 2000 05:14 pm UTC
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If you don't have any complaints about the stock lights then you probably don't want to get in a car with Hellas, the difference is amazing.
FWIW, I have no idea why your bulbs would blow so often. My sealed beam popups used to last maybe 9 months and would go after driving through heavy raintorms. So I put marine putty around the connector and the first light went just before I bought the Hellas, almost 3 years. Worth a shot.

Re: Aftermarket Fog/Driving Lights #9174
March 09, 2000 06:33 am UTC
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Call me a liar, but as far as long life is concerned, the CT $7.00 H3 55W bulbs are doing just fine...even with the rubber splash cap dangling off the back of the units (and moisture having a field day), my little bulbs have lasted 9 months of CONSTANT use, now.

Those puppies are saving me $100s each year: my gas mileage is way lower with the popups retracted and the fogs on for better visibility on the highway!


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