Careful... or I'll make SURE you NEVER beat me while we're fixing the PP....

(OOopps... did I leave that wrench in THERE?!!? Sorry...)

Hey now Steve, has it really come to this?

PPG is the second person you've had to threaten with sabotage. Is it really that bad that your only hope is to sabotage your competition?

AWD boys win fair and square, we don’t have to resort to cheap tricks

Well, you, I'm not worried about, Vince..

However, if PPG can keep up to me with a blown HG, then he MAY be able to pass me once it's fixed.. As long as he doesn't poop his pants once we get up to speed....

I know eh Vince...
he says "oh I'll come and help you do that mod..."

little do I know he is out to sabotage my car so he can feel faster.

It all makes sense now...

Yea I know, he offered to help me rebuild my motor if something happens to it....I'm thinking what a nice guy. Then he adds "I'll make sure you never beat me to the end of the 1/4mile again" :rolleyes:

Steve, as I sit you would definately take me on the highway...but I bet with the welded viscous coupling and without the extra weight of the drive shaft and x-fer case. I can make up that 2mph you have on me . I'll have to stop by your house while I'm on my way to the dyno

Now is there an easy way to swap in FWD gears?

Bah.... lemme drop my exhaust, Honduh-style, and we'll see what happens to my 108mph..

I just realized: Between PPG's headgasket, and Vince's boost creep, I don't need to sabotage anything.. you guys do fine on your own!!

... or are they just the excuses I keep hearing??

If you remember correctly when we lined up at the track I still had my STOCK 1.75" exhaust on the car And I still beat you.

But unfortunately for you going from 2.5 to no exhaust isn't going to net as much of a gain as going from 1.75 to no exhaust.

Now I have a full 3" exhaust with a soon to be vented WG....so as usual mine is bigger than yours

Man Steve I'm thinking aobut giving up the the FWD thing all together .

I mean if they are whining this much already what is it going to be like once we mop up this year?

More whining, and excuses, that's what's going to happen...

"Oh... I've still got boost creep..." "Oh, well, I think I've blown another headgasket.." Nothing new..

Oh, Vince.. you just don't get it do you?? (sigh...) If you'll recall I ran that pass with a leaking injector, and 20% too rich on my SAFC settings.. STILL got 108MPH..

Wheelspin, WAS the problem.. remember?? Probably not, because you didn't see any of it when I wupped your ass at the Grimsby 1/8th..

BONG!!!!

Yes, more whining and excuses indeed

[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Vince Amato ]

I say you're ALL full of sh!t!

I never lost to nobody, whether the car is 100% or not doesn't matter.

blah blah blah
show me a 12 or shutyourfuckinhole


btw Mike, we need to talk...my 2 stage boost controller is working VERY well on Steve's car (right Steve?) and I can promise similar results for you too.

[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Mark PPG Scheitzbach ]

Shoot me details on that.

BTW I had a strange dream last night that I bought the PP off you and used it as a winter beater . Seriously.

[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Mike Jackson ]

LOL.. A winter beater!!! I'd LOVE to see that!!

2 Stage MBC: Ya, damn this thing works GREAT! 12 psi in 1st/2nd, and 20 in 3rd/4th/5th. (You can set them to whatever you want though..)

Maybe you should ask Vince how well it works..

It doesn't do much for the rain, though.. I STILL hate the rain...

GEEZUS!! Post 1 good thing about somebody in this thread, and it dies...

What's the matter, don't know how to handle a compliment?

OK, fine. How about the fact that my crankwalked Talon kept ahead of your blown headgasketed Laser?? Doesn't surprise me with you driving your car...

You seemed to do pretty good in mine, though....

Yes Steve, what's wrong with you. This is not the ass kissing thread, it's the ass KICKING thread, which is what I am going to do to your little FWD in 13 days

Since when do you have crankwalk? And you said we were making excuses

[ February 17, 2002: Message edited by: Vince Amato ]

Vince, what Steve is saying is that his clutch adjusting abilities are poor at best...He calls it clutch walk, I call it his car's way of saying "uncle".

His crank ain't the only thing getting walked around here...

and no I didn't help with the clutch install

Now we both have problems we need to fix...there goes a couple of weekends

no wonder our wives hate our cars

LOL.. well, I'm not really calling it "crankwalk".. not in the sense most people think of it, anyway.. my thrust bearing is worn out of spec. (OH BOY is it worn.. .033"!!)

So, it's time to do something about it..

Excuses?? I don't need excuses when I'm seeing you in my mirrors...

[ February 17, 2002: Message edited by: Steve Kinnaird ]

Steve, that's not too bad at all for crank play, you can go to 8 thousanths. You have over half of your thrust bearing left. If you drop the oil pan, you will see a slight groove on it, nothing to worry about yet. I bet you have around 160-180K on the car by now???

I wish you were right. 8 thousandths is .008" of play.. I've got.033" (A little over four times the limit..:-) )

Actually, I've got about 280 000kms on the car...

I was going to pull the oil pan and look around, but with that much play.. why bother??

...sigh... nobody wants to race me huh??

I suggest a couple rematches with the grudgeboys here, and what do I get....

"No.. I'll just lose more coolant.. I've already lost enough because of you!!".. Wah.. Wah.. Wah..

And:

"Oh, looks like you lucked out this time.. I'm getting crazy knock, and I don't know why.." (At least he's not still whining about boost creep) Wah.. Wah.. Wah..

Gentlemen: I've got .036" of crank endplay. You don't here me whining do you? Nope.. I'm ready to go. If you can't give me a race, PLEASE, at least stop giving me excuses.

Muahahaha!

You bring the coolant, I'll bring the can of whoopass.

Nothing I enjoy more that the monthly trip to Yorkdale

I share a bit of my troubles with you and look what you do with it. You exploit my heartache for your personal amusement.

If I had a new engine on it's way I wouldn't worry about boost creep, crank walk or the fact that I am seeing more knock than my car has HP.

I guess I do sound like a whining bitch....so I will say as the rice boyz say... "Just wait till this summer"

Typical FWD mentality...."I'll beat them while their wounded since that's the only way I can win."

[ March 01, 2002: Message edited by: Vince Amato ]

You got it. 1 bottle of coolant.. (I'll even pre-mix it so you don't get confused mixing it 50/50)

Vince, if you EVER get your car running right again, I'll race you. You just keep going from excuse to excuse though, so how ELSE am I supposed to race you except when your car's broken?? It's ALWAYS broken.. (so you seem to say.. anyway.. )

You don't have to rub it in

Why is PPG itching to get his ass handed to him by Kinnaird?

..... again.

How did both you guys learn to talk out your ass's so well?

So who wants to see my tail-lights first??

I think Mark should be first... he's already used to it.

Oh Geez.

What?? We got another clown who thinks he's fast because he's got AWD??

Well, I'm not sure there's a road wide enugh for me to take you ALL down at once, so I'll have to do it one at a time....

I'll save you till last, Torrey.. just in case my wee FMIC heatsoaks... after all, you're an automatic..

Steve... since your car is 2wd does that mean i have to race you on my CCM mountain bike?

Well since Steve spends so much time with his head up there he has learned to talk out of it very well. Just look at this picture does this not look like a guy that enjoys talking out of his ass?



I rest my case

I believe I have some video of Torrey at a Test n Tune. He happened to be lined up beside a viper that was running mid 12's. I think thats what a race between PPG and Torrey would look like.

HAHAHHAHA

You have that video! I need a copy of that if its possible!

LOL... you might want to note Vince:

In that picture I'm TESTING something on the car. Not FIXING it

[ March 07, 2002: Message edited by: Steve Kinnaird ]

yea Steve, that's right because instead of fixing things on your car you just go out and buy a new engine

you and Andy did a good job on the VFAQ by the way.

[ March 07, 2002: Message edited by: Vince Amato ]

Hey.. you tape broken parts together YOUR way, and I'll replace them MY way.

Anyone got a 112 trap speed? I think we have a clear winner for the street race here

Baahh... any monkey can wheelspin his way to a 112!

Good job!