Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 18, 2006 01:48 am UTC
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bryan clayton
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Hey guys i just recently purchased a 93 laser rs nt fwd. I hope in converting it to an rst awd. the car is a 5spd. I know that this is not urgent but im am curious to find out all the parts that are needed- due to the fact that i only know some of the basic parts. If you know of something or could take the time to help me out it would be much appreciated. thanks. bryan
92 Tsi Awd HX40 87 Turbo II FC3S
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 18, 2006 03:00 am UTC
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Dave Dziarmaga
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With 2g's its possible to go from fwd to awd, but i doubt you can do that on 1g's. Isnt the fuel tank in the way?
1993 Talon TSi AWD, if in doubt, increase boost. I've got a fever, and the only perscription is more cowbell! -Bruce Dickenson for sale: my talon
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 18, 2006 03:13 am UTC
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Chris Clark
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And the rear suspension is totally different.
1990 TSi AWD - Parked since I bought it (Jan24/03) Had it out one day, and busted the trans.
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 18, 2006 04:03 am UTC
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Nigel Smith
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2500 bucks can easily get you a decent AWD 1gb that runs well... Something to think about.
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 18, 2006 02:45 pm UTC
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bryan clayton
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thanks alot guys, ill look for an awd shell. But the extreme project does sound enticing.
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 18, 2006 08:32 pm UTC
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I think Rob pretty much summed the whole thing up. You'd basically require a complete AWD car (not necessarily running, but more or less a complete car--the enire shell, drivetrain AND engine). So basically you're going to have an entire AWD car. So what are you actually going to swap over from the NT FWD? A couple of bolts that are shinier? There's practically nothing on the NT FWD you'd want to swap over to the AWD. I suppose maybe some interior pieces and maybe some body panels (and the VIN, I guess)--but, I mean, that's it. Certainly you realize that you would never start with the NT FWD and swap parts into that, right? What would be left that came from the FWD when you were done? A few bolts and the driver's seat?
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 18, 2006 09:37 pm UTC
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Nigel Smith
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N/T Laser's have the ugliest seats, so he would probably opt to swap those too... =)
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 19, 2006 04:07 am UTC
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i had a n/t talon that i converted to turbo, and it wasnt as easy as i thought it would be..but it was a very very good learnning experience, and lots of fun as well..the feeling of having a car that youve beuilt yourself and know EVERYTHIG thing about it. im not sure how much work is needed for the AWD conversion, but all i can think of is what the guys here said already..you basically have to switch everything from a different car (an AWD), to yours. good luck
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 19, 2006 09:26 am UTC
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Scott Cumming
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N/T Laser's have the ugliest seats, so he would probably opt to swap those too... =) my n/t laser had nicer seats then some of the talons I saw, grey on grey keep them!
'90 Laser RS N/A-->turbo (finally!) "Laserburn" (ouch) '95 Eagle talon (dads ride)
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 19, 2006 03:00 pm UTC
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bryan clayton
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can the rst head fit onto the nt block? I heard that the nt tranny is stronger that the rst tranny. Would that work?
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 19, 2006 11:32 pm UTC
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Originally posted by Nick Boers: Originally posted by bryan clayton: [b]I heard that the nt tranny is stronger that the rst tranny. It hurts my head trying to think of why someone would think such a thing was possible [/b]I heard the 1.8nt tranny is the strongest...
1993 Talon TSi AWD, if in doubt, increase boost. I've got a fever, and the only perscription is more cowbell! -Bruce Dickenson for sale: my talon
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Re: Conversion Confusion (rs fwd -> rst awd)
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January 20, 2006 04:12 pm UTC
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Originally posted by Rob Strelecki: In other words - you will have to pretty much buy another car anyways, to get all the parts.
It's probably cheaper and easier to buy an AWD with a dead motor than it is to shop around for every piece of the puzzle.
Though you would definitely be known as "that guy who actually went through with it". I've never heard of this actually being done on a 1G before. I was going to add a Kaaz LSD to my fwd over the winter, but I found an awd with a bad motor for $700. Way cheaper to buy an awd then to build one. A few years ago there was a shop in the states that has sucsessfully done a 1G awd conversion to a fwd, but the cost was about $6,000US. Just find yourself an AWD, and save yourself time, money, and hasstle.
TPG+Meth You can't tune out mechanical problems!!!
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