You guys are a joke. I almost have the pipes done and now I get this crap. Hey, if you want your pipes your getting them, if you want to bank with robs court case...LMMFAO go hang with him and his imaginary friends. No refunds either. you'll get what you paid for and thats that....amd iam more than happy to have a meet on my lawn this weekend. lets set it up. Its 401 to 400 north then take 11 to Huntsville take the 3rd exit on HWY 60 drive to Oxtongue lake and I'll meet all of you and we can settle this.