Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: Paul Bratina]
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January 30, 2010 07:04 pm UTC
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no the two lock rings are located at the bottom of the spring. I just dont understand why the of the strut is threaded and is adjustable if it is not for height adjustment. http://www.yonaka.com/Suspension_Mitsubishi_Eclipse_95_99_p/ymtc006.htmthere is a picture of the coilovers there and if you look at them, the sleeve at the bottom of the strut is adjustable and will thread all the way in or out. So I guess my question is this meant to be threaded all the way in?
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: Tashko Sarakinov]
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January 30, 2010 08:04 pm UTC
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The whole body of the coilover is threaded and I can take the bottom right off if I wanted to but I want to know if these are supposed to be threaded all the way in or this is my height adjustment.
Ok so if the lower portion gets me my height adjustment at the bottom(single lock ring).
How much of the threads should be engaged on the lower portion of the "strut"? they are 4" long! Is 1" engaged enough for strength in the strut"
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: jamie bernaski]
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January 31, 2010 02:22 am UTC
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Okay, looking at those pics I think I may get it. It does seem a bit odd to me that the entire bottom of the shock body could come off though (if that's the case). I would think it would be filled with hydraulic fluid. Unless there's some kind of stopper inside that prevents it from coming completely off maybe? I don't think I'd advise trying to unscrew that bottom part any more than it is--it may come off in your hand and spill oil all over your lap. I'm a bit curious--the smaller diameter "adjustment ring" (or whatever it is) seems to require a special tool, does that tool come with the coilovers? Presumably, the larger diameter adjustment rings on the spring perch come with a tool, correct? It seems to me that same tool couldn't fit both the bigger and smaller diameter rings? I don't know, something seems odd. The true answer may be as Tashko suggests, it could be just a manufacturing thing.
Anyway, assuming that entire bottom part doesn't fall out, both the spring perch and the lower body portion could theoretically be used to adjust ride height. I suppose it gives extra control over ride height, shock travel, etc? Not a 100% though. I'm going to defer to guys like Tashko who have a lot more knowledge in matters suspension.
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: jamie bernaski]
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January 31, 2010 03:19 pm UTC
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I don't do any installations, only sales....so this would only be a guess:
I assume the shock "rod" is built into the threaded main body, and that the lower "removable" portion is only an extension. My asumption would be that the two larger "lock rings" would be used to pre-load the springs a certain amount. If the shock rod is indeed attached to the main body, and not to that extension, then I assume this would also change the height of the car as you adjust it, as well as the stiffness of the ride. I would assume that then that lower "extension" would be wound in or out to adjust the actual final ride height...
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: Tara Matthews]
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February 02, 2010 05:56 pm UTC
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Ok, I just got off the phone with Yonaka. They tell me they are pretty much pre-set from the factory for a little over one inch drop.
The two larger "lock nuts" are locked together to just "preload" the springs. They tell me the springs are not ACTUALLY pre-loaded, but just set more or less to be "snug". This is supposed to give a comfortable ride without sacrificing suspension travel. The end piece is then used to set the actual height. They say at stock height, the piece will be threaded in around 2", so there is no way you would have too little thread engagement there unless you are going for the "4x4 off road" look.
You will need to get an alignment once these are installed, so you can have the shop check over your installation also...
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: jamie bernaski]
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February 03, 2010 02:31 pm UTC
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Jamie,
They WERE sort of preset from the factory. If you still have one rear and one front unchanged, you can just match those. Otherwise, you could compare and make them an inch shorter than the stock strut. The general rule for threads is that you have your MAXIMUM strength when the thread engagement is 1.5 times thread diameter. So, in other words, if that thread is 20mm diameter, at 30mm of thread engaged you have MAXIMUM strength, and threading it in further will not gain any more strength. I would think even 1" of thread engagement is going to be enough.
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: Ziggy Dietrich]
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February 03, 2010 03:52 pm UTC
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2" is stock ride height, so 2" minimum.
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: Michael Muir]
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March 20, 2010 06:21 pm UTC
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I have only sold the one set so far to Jamie. I would LOVE to sell more of these, I think they are a hell of a deal....but no-one seems to want to be the guinea pig....
Promise me you will do a bit of a write up, and I will give you a really good deal on a set...
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: Tara Matthews]
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March 25, 2010 11:03 am UTC
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Thanks for that info, Tara. I didn't know of anyone who was running them. Now that I FINALLY have a good recommendation, Yonaka is out of stock and considering discontinuing them. they MIGHT get more in May, but they MIGHT discontinue ..
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Re: yonaka coilover adjustments???
[Re: Tara Matthews]
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March 26, 2010 11:42 am UTC
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I was speaking with Steve there yesterday, and he told me he is VERY uncertain whether they will be getting more in or not. I would not LIE about this..I would LOVE to sell more of them...but I can't sell what I can't get. Last time I waited MONTHS for them to get some in....and this time, Steve said it MIGHT be May, but he is NOT SURE if they are getting more or not.
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