ZOMG it's snowing!!
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November 05, 2012 02:34 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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I don't know about you but I can just imagine my car go sideways right now in the snow!!
Can't wait for this snow to stick so I can go out for a rip!
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 07, 2012 03:26 am UTC
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Actually alex we had snow that morning, unfortunately it wasn't enough and I don't think it was cold enough for it to stick around.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 07, 2012 04:06 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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I can't wait to get out there with the Scoobie. N/A AWD 5 Speed with winter tires gonna be fun!
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 07, 2012 09:07 pm UTC
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I think it can go both ways for summer too. Because the tires are designed for the whole season, they don't do a great job on either season.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Reza Mirza]
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November 08, 2012 01:30 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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I've been contemplating whether or not I should buy snow tires for the Ralliart this year. The OEM Dunlop SP5000's on it right now are still brand new and I was hoping I could make it through the winter with these.
Anyone have any experience with the Dunlop SP5000's in the snow in an AWD car?
Just to add insult to injury... here's the factory tires on Eric's Ralliart.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsVKBtka5RU
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 08, 2012 04:50 am UTC
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I thought all seasons on an AWD were going to be alright, and I made it pretty easily through the year last year with all seasons of my Jetta. But I remember snows on my Talon were one of the best investments I made. It just felt so much safer.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 08, 2012 02:05 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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It's a night and day experience with winter tires.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 08, 2012 04:18 pm UTC
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I think in the city you'll be fine with all seasons.
My family has never had any problems.
We're talking all season tires, not performance all seasons or summers. Just regular all season tires that come on sedans.
For everyone that lives in the burbs, yes, you should put winters on, but again in the city you'll be fine without them, especially if you have AWD.
If you can afford the tires then why not I guess.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 08, 2012 10:44 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Since when did AWD become a mitigating factor in how fast the vehicle can stop?
People seem to think that you get winter tires for only traction when you are driving around. Traction is for both GOING and STOPPING. All season tires have a rubber compound that allows for general all year round driving, meaning the tires won't turn into hockey pucks in Windsor when the coldest it gets is maybe -20??
Go up to Ottawa, hell Belleville sees its fair share of -40 wind chills.
Your "All Season" tires aren't going to do sh!t when you are driving around on basically a block of frozen rubber. Your tire will not grip the road as well when it's frozen.
Bring on the winter tires. Why do you think people run old shitty winters on their FWD's for "slicks"???? Because when they're hot, they are gummy, and designed for cold weather. They don't freeze as easily.
AWD or not, when you hit the brakes, your tires still need to grab onto the road to slow you down. Your all seasons will have a hard time doing that.
Winter tires are designed to grip snow and ice and throw it away. All seasons are designed to grip wet pavement, with some slight design built into the rubber to grip moderate snow and ice. Trust me, after a season driving with all season's in the snow in a FWD then slapping a new set of winters on it, what a difference!
You will grip the road better in turns, straight lines or braking. PERIOD.
Moral of the story: Put some winter's on. There's a reason Quebec makes them mandatory. You'll be pissed when someone rear ends you because they thought their "All Seasons" were just fine in a blizzard. Hell, my Subie Outback had All Season's on it last year and in Ottawa I was scared to try and stop. That's a heavy car.
NB: Winter tires do not make your car invincible on the road on snow. We wrote off our GLI last year, with a set of winters on it when we hit black ice and put it into a pole even when driving cautiously. You will notice a difference.
This post is not directed at anyone in particular, just providing everyone with some perspective.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Ryan Laliberte]
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November 08, 2012 11:24 pm UTC
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There's a reason Quebec makes them mandatory. Just one comment here, the reason they are mandatory there is because plowing is a lot less frequent and I assume their budget for plowing is much lower for that. I will also add that spikes should be allowed in Ontario, the technology has advanced enough that they don't ruin the road like they used to, which is the reason they are not allowed in Ontario.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 09, 2012 12:27 am UTC
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[quote=Ryan Laliberte]There's a reason Quebec makes them mandatory. Just one comment here, the reason they are mandatory there is because plowing is a lot less frequent and I assume their budget for plowing is much lower for that. I Don't know that is valid statement. I have lived in both both provinces and I can honestly say I don't think Ontario has as many plows as Montreal does let alone all of Quebec. For 2009 Torontos and Ottawas budget combined was less then just Montreals and their snow amount was less aswell. Montreal got over over 200cm of snow compared to T.O 130cm. I think they made snowtires mandatory because they work and cause less accidents. Plus in Quebec It is the Government that carries your $1000000 liability insurance and your insurance company so less injuries makes better sense to them.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 09, 2012 01:39 am UTC
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Hm that last part is interesting. My sources were people that lived in gatineau region and those areas not too far from Ottawa. I would assume Montreal would be well maintained because of the area.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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November 09, 2012 02:57 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Technology has become better yada yada spikes what?
I work for a paving company. As of 2015, you will not see a tri-axle truck in Ontario. You'll have Tandem Tandem trucks (Two drive, two steer). Technology has not gotten better, asphalt is still asphalt.
In Northern Ontario (Parry Sound +), they are legal.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Stephen Richardson]
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November 09, 2012 03:30 am UTC
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Ottawa is terrible for moving snow. Well at least they used to be back in the 90's. They were still terrible 5 years ago when I was there too. I remember one year Ottawa blew it's plowing budget in the first two snowfalls.
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Re: ZOMG it's snowing!!
[Re: Johnny Larmond]
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November 09, 2012 12:18 pm UTC
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If anything, with AWD, you're more likely to accelerate faster and say "BAHAHAH!!! Suck on snow you Bitchez!!" resulting in the need to brake a little faster. Get them on and save your ride/another ride/a life or 2 even. Montreal got over over 200cm of snow compared to T.O 130cm.
No way did we get that much... I'm hoping for a whole whack ton of snow this season! That's what the stats said... I didn't really believe it either because i never heard of the Army being called in 2009.
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