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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #396054
February 28, 2013 05:58 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Ok good to know, I will weigh the costs and the work, looks like the Odyssey is the winner right now.

That's another question I needed to ask.
For the 1g hatch struts what are yours like (or any other 1g guys). Mine since day one I have to push the hatch up and then when they are fully open they will hold the hatch open.


I've got a piece of wood to hold my hatch up, as do most 1G owners. Although new hatch struts are ~$35 if I recall correctly.


Also, how were you planning on mounting the battery to the subframe?


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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #396072
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LOL, I am just trying to figure out if the struts are supposed help me lift it or just hold it up.

J hook and tapping that piece of the car that bulges out a little inside the engine bay.


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Maybe in the FSM it specifies CCA for the OE battery and you can determine which Odyssey is the right one for you.

With my car, I replaced my hatch struts last summer (RTM) and as soon as you get about 3-4 inches up from the latch, it goes up on it's own and stays up. There isn't any "locking" position that I'm aware of in a 2g.

RTM's were I think $20-$40 for the pair. tu No brainer! lol


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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #396083
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Yeah I definitely need new ones, these ones suck and were bad yesterday.
I would assume temperature shouldn't have that much of an effect on them.


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Actually, in the winter time I used the hatch area to store parts and such and the car was parked in my (non-heated) garage. I could DEFINITELY tell they struggled to open the hatch when it was below ZERO.




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Yup. They're gas-charged struts; they can put out more pressure when they're warm.


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Oh interesting that's good to know.


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When a strut is new it will open the hatch up all the way. As it ages it loses some gas charge and you'll need to lift. My experience is that you get 2 years of a full gas charge, then you have to lift for another 2 years before you need the wooden prop.

Don't be a redneck Salomon, get those struts replaced!! wink

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Originally Posted by Robert Dike
When a strut is new it will open the hatch up all the way. As it ages it loses some gas charge and you'll need to lift. My experience is that you get 2 years of a full gas charge, then you have to lift for another 2 years before you need the wooden prop.

Don't be a redneck Salomon, get those struts replaced!! wink


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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #396115
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In the winter time I have to lift my hatch open, it will slowly open but I dont have a day to waste waiting for it

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Yeah mine won't even do that I have to force mine half way and then I can finally relax as it will slowly do the second half for me.
I am creating a list for Ziggy for when he get's back!


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Bryan, as long as the struts hold the hatch up you're still good. But I always have a new set ready for when they are needed so getting some now is a a good idea.

Just don't buy the Monroe brand if you come across them. You'll need to grind off the lower mounting bracket of your current struts to reuse with the Monroe's. Every other brand I've tried came with new brackets.

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It's a ridiculous struggle to get it the first half, I will just grab new ones this order and keep these as spares.
Noted on the Monroe's, that a pain!


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Because I love my tunes and know I should be wearing hearing protection I have combined the two.
Below is all the parts I needed (Thanks to Alex for the headphones)
I removed the speakers from Alex's headphones and pulled the wires off.
I had some headphone wire left over from some sony's I ripped apart to add a mic to, so used that for my wires.
Used the ear muffs I picked up from princess (they are not that great because they have a hole so they can pivot 360, which ends up letting some sound in.
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Wow I need to try it out! With my stupid 5 gallon air compressor (the motor never stops pumping while I do sandblasting) those may come handy smile


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You can have the other headphones back if you want. I only used these ones.


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nah its okay. Too many other things on my plate to do


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Bring by some ear muffs and I will do it for you.
And some headphone wire too.


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Bryan, have you done the welding work yet? Want to see some pics.

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Everytime I go to do it something has come up. My plan is to do it tomorrow, I am pretty sure my day is free, I will take pics before and during and after if I can.


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What helmet did you grab? I just grabbed the CTC special 2 week ago haven't used it yet.

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I ended up grabbing the black one from princess when it was on sale.
My original plan was to grab the blue and white one from CTC but got tired of waiting.


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Yeah I got the blue and white one. $79.

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Yeah that one is really nice, how do you like it?


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Don't know yet, nothing to weld.

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Hahaha, I haven't welded anything useful.
Just been goofing around with spare metal I have in the garage.


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Sorry boys, I was trimming up the piece and finished my oil change and then got a call and never got back to it.

I may finish on Sunday, if not then Monday for sure.


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Alright kids, finally did it.
I am too tired right now to give a long write up so here are pictures through progression of the night.
The last picture is after a coat of rust converter and two coats of bed liner.
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Also I can confirm what Mr. Stacey said, rust definitely explodes when you try to weld it.


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Hmmm... I like your style. I may have to borrow your services at some point in the future.


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That's not the only service you can borrow wink


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tongue Haha, just let me know when I can help!


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My rear rocker panels are in desperate need of some lovin. You give me a time, I'll bring the beers and the bucks!


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Ok cool sounds good, I need to figure out my jack situation first. I need to do my rockers too but currently the car doesn't get that high off the ground, making it a pain!

Make it cider and you got a deal! wink


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Well done! Looks great. =)

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Well done! Looks great. =)

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Any time. Thanks for the book.

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wow, awesome! I need to see it close!!!


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