The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
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February 06, 2013 07:22 pm UTC
February 06, 2013 07:22 pm UTC
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Jesse McCoppin
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Greetings from south of the border! My name is Jesse (Denver, Colorado USA), and I recently built a database of all the RARE 97/98 AWD Talons. I extracted all the VIN numbers, paint colors, Option Codes, etc. from CAPS and populated a Google Docs spreadsheet! If you are familiar with the 3S Storyteller Application, my goal is the same for the 2Gb AWD Talons. I wanted to have a way to see how rare a particular car is, based on color, transmission, interior, etc. More than that though, I want to provide a way for Talon owners to submit data about their current or former vehicles, so we know how many are still in service, where they are, how many miles, etc. Additionally, I would like to track how many have ABS, LSD, sunroof, etc. If you own, used to own, know a friend, spot one online, etc, feel free to enter the VIN(s) and any other info you have about a particular car and it will be added to the Registry. Please enjoy the following URLs, which let you see statistics about these rare cars! If you own a 2Gb AWD Talon, also feel free to submit information (as much or as little as you are comfortable) using the FORM link. I have also separated all the Canadian Talons into their own page within the spreadsheet as a courtesy to my fellow DSMers up North If you own one, cherish it! There were only 748 2Gb AWD Talon cars originally destined for Canada, only 59 of which are Automatic transmission. The Live Result Charts: http://goo.gl/ZkH0zThe Raw Data: http://goo.gl/vK63JThe User Data Submission Form: http://goo.gl/CNNw4Thanks for the space - I look forward to your contributions! Regards, Jesse 1997 TSi AWD
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Jason Weir]
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February 06, 2013 08:01 pm UTC
February 06, 2013 08:01 pm UTC
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Jesse McCoppin
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Love to see this on all of these like the 1GA TSI awd
Great stuff thanks for helping out the community Jason, some day I might expand the project to other DSMs. It's a lot of work messing with the CAPS database - I don't have the same skill level as the 3S Storyteller guys As far as I can tell, the Mitsu CAPS is an old format of IBM Informix. I have the Index and the Data files, but not the Schema - so it is a challenge to load the VINs from the IDX file and match them up with the paint, interior and option codes stored in the DAT. If I ever find out how to do this, I will absolutely expand the project to cover all DSMs including GVR4/2000GTX vehicles. Heck, there are over 1 million VINs in the 1999 CAPS database so theoretically I could do them all some day
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Jesse McCoppin]
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February 06, 2013 08:07 pm UTC
February 06, 2013 08:07 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Jesse, have you taken a look as ASA, it's the new fancy CAPS.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Jesse McCoppin]
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February 06, 2013 08:23 pm UTC
February 06, 2013 08:23 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Mike Petro]
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February 07, 2013 08:15 pm UTC
February 07, 2013 08:15 pm UTC
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Jesse McCoppin
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What about the Eclipse GSX? Are those as rare as the 2gb Awd talons?
Sadly no. These are the total production numbers from 1996-1999 (turbo and non-turbo) for Eclipses and Talons. You see there are 201k Eclipse hardtops, versus only 27k Talons. Eclipse.......... 53,807.... 48,503.... 45,619.... 53,123 Eclipse Spyder... 9,309..... 10,066.... 12,336.... 8,751 Talon............ 13,799.... 10,206.... 2,957..... 0
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Jesse McCoppin]
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February 07, 2013 10:25 pm UTC
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Terry S
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Alex Akachinskiy]
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February 08, 2013 08:06 pm UTC
February 08, 2013 08:06 pm UTC
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Steve Laliberté
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Only 29xx talons were made in 98. That's low Thats crazy, never thought it was that low too, there getting harder to find, actually I rarely see talon on the road...
2013-10.92@138.98 pump gas+meth 2014-10.69@135.08,pump gas-meth Best 10.31@142mph
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Jesse McCoppin]
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February 12, 2013 04:43 pm UTC
February 12, 2013 04:43 pm UTC
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Jesse McCoppin
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Love to see this on all of these like the 1GA TSI awd
Great stuff thanks for helping out the community Jason, some day I might expand the project to other DSMs. It's a lot of work messing with the CAPS database - I don't have the same skill level as the 3S Storyteller guys As far as I can tell, the Mitsu CAPS is an old format of IBM Informix. I have the Index and the Data files, but not the Schema - so it is a challenge to load the VINs from the IDX file and match them up with the paint, interior and option codes stored in the DAT. If I ever find out how to do this, I will absolutely expand the project to cover all DSMs including GVR4/2000GTX vehicles. Heck, there are over 1 million VINs in the 1999 CAPS database so theoretically I could do them all some day Good news everybody! Thanks to Jeff Lucius @ Stealth316.com, I now have the source code necessary to extract CAPS data for ANY type of car in the database. Where should I start? GVR4/2000GTX, 1Ga AWD ? I need 3-5 valid VINs for a given car to determine the search expression.
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Jesse McCoppin]
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February 12, 2013 04:51 pm UTC
February 12, 2013 04:51 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
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Caledon, Ontario, Canada
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"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
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Re: The 2Gb AWD Talon Registry
[Re: Jesse McCoppin]
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February 18, 2013 09:20 pm UTC
February 18, 2013 09:20 pm UTC
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Jesse McCoppin
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All build dates have been extracted from the CAPS 2001 database. 1998 Talon dates are now valid. With a few exceptions, all 2519 cars were made in 49 10-day weeks. That's an average of 51.4 cars per week. A few weeks were very light, producing only 5-7 cars/week. A few weeks were heavy production, producing 100-145 cars/week. Scroll to bottom to see each week's production: http://goo.gl/ZkH0z
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