Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#421688
February 03, 2014 04:22 pm UTC
February 03, 2014 04:22 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Alright so a quick update. As most have you have seen I have been struggling with my tuning. I am rebuilding a spare throttle body and then going to swap that in and try again tuning my car again after it's been replaced. Will post up pictures soon of it apart as it is right now and some pictures after it's back together. Thanks to Terry for the spare throttle bodies, thanks Gui for the sandblaster and thanks snowboarder on tuners for the full throttle rebuild kit.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422644
February 26, 2014 08:37 pm UTC
February 26, 2014 08:37 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Alright so I will be finishing up tonight. I am going to grab some red loctite for the throttle plate screws, any other tips? Quick question though, I have two types of BISS screws, one is plastic like and one is metal, does it matter? Also here is before and after cleanup.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422646
February 26, 2014 09:11 pm UTC
February 26, 2014 09:11 pm UTC
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,873 Los Angeles, California
Alex Akachinskiy
Insane Member
|
Insane Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,873
Los Angeles, California
|
Alright so I will be finishing up tonight. I am going to grab some red loctite for the throttle plate screws, any other tips? Quick question though, I have two types of BISS screws, one is plastic like and one is metal, does it matter? Also here is before and after cleanup.
Looks good Bryan. Any plans to coat it with paint or powder? Defiantly a good idea to use loctite and proper screwdriver so you don't strip them during the procedure. They need to be tight
Last edited by Alex Akachinskiy; February 26, 2014 09:16 pm UTC.
1996 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 1999 Eclipse GST Automagic 1991 3000GT VR-4
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422647
February 26, 2014 09:16 pm UTC
February 26, 2014 09:16 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Haha, you missed the comment, it's Gui's blaster No I won't be coating it, will be leaving it as is, unless I find something nice and easy while looking for loctite.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Alex Akachinskiy]
#422652
February 26, 2014 11:03 pm UTC
February 26, 2014 11:03 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 3,607 Brampton, Ontario
Guillaume Berton
Insane Member
|
Insane Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 3,607
Brampton, Ontario
|
Haha, you missed the comment, it's Gui's blaster used to be mine glad its still being used Hehe, like you Alex, if I'm not using it, I'm more than happy to lend it to someone who will. Thanks a bunch again for it , makes scale car modelling/tuning a breeze for paint! Brian, it looks nice! In terms of finish, why not just get an aluminum polish, just make it nice and shiny. Paint flakes, shine lasts.
"Looked at it, declared war and went to find my throwing wrenches."
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422659
February 27, 2014 01:43 am UTC
February 27, 2014 01:43 am UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Well I already blew it with air a lot, I will do some extra flushing before I put it together. Not sure I will be doing that tonight as I just got home, I have the loctite though so I am ready to go with everything.
Gui I thought about doing the polishing thing but after trying it I gave up, there are too many nooks and crannies that are a bitch to get to. I will be soda blasting the next one so we will see how different that turns out.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422661
February 27, 2014 02:55 am UTC
February 27, 2014 02:55 am UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
LOL, I would have used the oven in my house What do you suggest, is it the fumes I need to worry about? Maybe I can sneak the toaster oven into the garage for a little bit.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422672
February 27, 2014 02:00 pm UTC
February 27, 2014 02:00 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
LOL brake cleaner it is!! Haha
Any thoughts on the plastic biss screw vs the metal one?
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422674
February 27, 2014 02:46 pm UTC
February 27, 2014 02:46 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422681
February 27, 2014 04:18 pm UTC
February 27, 2014 04:18 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Ok cool, next time I am at canadian tire I will pick up intake cleaner, I have one can of brake cleaner left so figure I should use that.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422685
February 27, 2014 04:46 pm UTC
February 27, 2014 04:46 pm UTC
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,669 Toronto, Ontario
Stephan Tanchak
Insane Member
|
Insane Member
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,669
Toronto, Ontario
|
I love using carb cleaner, if thats the same thing.
1998 Eclipse GSX Spyder 11.5@124 AWD Talons: 1992, 1993, 1997, 1998
Team Big Turbo
PHP: 2
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422742
February 28, 2014 02:45 pm UTC
February 28, 2014 02:45 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
sh!t man that looks painful!
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Terry S]
#422743
February 28, 2014 02:46 pm UTC
February 28, 2014 02:46 pm UTC
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,873 Los Angeles, California
Alex Akachinskiy
Insane Member
|
Insane Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,873
Los Angeles, California
|
Hehe, like you Alex, if I'm not using it, I'm more than happy to lend it to someone who will. Thanks a bunch again for it , makes scale car modelling/tuning a breeze for paint! Glad you like it. It can make things a bit dusty but it does the job well. Make sure you protect yourself with quality mask When I got shavings stuck in gunk in my intake manifold I used my go to product.... Por-15 marine clean... This stuff is the strongest cleaner I have ever used next to gasoline or airplain strength paint stripper. Not to mention it's biodegradable. It can be diluted up to 10x and costs fack all. I have a feeling you guys knew that I'd say that Terry got me hooked on this product. It worked great for me I used it for just about everything in the garage or home.
Last edited by Alex Akachinskiy; February 28, 2014 02:49 pm UTC.
1996 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 1999 Eclipse GST Automagic 1991 3000GT VR-4
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422846
March 03, 2014 09:24 pm UTC
March 03, 2014 09:24 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Well the rebuild is finished. One note before I post completed pictures, the FIAV/ISC housing has a little screw inside that you can only see once taken apart(I thought I had a picture), this screw seems to be a bitch and gets stuff stuck inside very easily, if you are going to blast I suggest keeping the screw in there. Anyways here are the picture all back together, just going to pick up some gasket and then throw her on.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422848
March 03, 2014 09:49 pm UTC
March 03, 2014 09:49 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Thanks Jason! Yeah I tested it a few times, it was getting stuck before but it's good now. The one on the car sticks like a bitch if it's been sitting so I am excited to replace, plus I don't have to worry about this one getting filthy because the EGR is now blocked.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#422853
March 04, 2014 12:41 am UTC
March 04, 2014 12:41 am UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Yes they did for sure, thanks again Terry!!
Thanks Alex, yeah I use the auto adjust after manually doing it first.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#423196
March 10, 2014 10:31 pm UTC
March 10, 2014 10:31 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Well here are some pictures of her installed. Will be heading out tomorrow to see how the tune is. The ISC was reading 38 Ohms on all coils, so I assume that means it's toasted? FSM says 28-33, some internets say 20-50 is an issue. Looks a little funny next to the filthy intake manifold, but I am very happy. Also what's with the allen head bolts (they were in the rebuild kit)? Is there a purpose? I had picture from higher but they all turned out shaky.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#423210
March 11, 2014 02:00 am UTC
March 11, 2014 02:00 am UTC
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,669 Toronto, Ontario
Stephan Tanchak
Insane Member
|
Insane Member
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,669
Toronto, Ontario
|
I'm not sure about the ohms, but I just am able to tell its toast when the ISC value in dsmlink changes to a min/max value but the idle stays the same. Then I take it out and watch the motor while I turn the key to the ON position. No movement=ISC flying to garbage bin.
How do you tighten that throttle body elbow bolt on the bottom there? I can just get my fingers in there, tighten it as much as I can, then leave that one.
1998 Eclipse GSX Spyder 11.5@124 AWD Talons: 1992, 1993, 1997, 1998
Team Big Turbo
PHP: 2
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#423217
March 11, 2014 11:19 am UTC
March 11, 2014 11:19 am UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
It's a stud, I can get the box end of the wrench on it so I do that.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#423220
March 11, 2014 02:14 pm UTC
March 11, 2014 02:14 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
Have them, those won't fit in there.
Thanks Mike!
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
Re: Love and Hate
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
#423222
March 11, 2014 03:11 pm UTC
March 11, 2014 03:11 pm UTC
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968 Caledon, Ontario, Canada
Bryan Lawrence
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
|
OP
Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,968
Caledon, Ontario, Canada
|
The bottom ones were fine so I left them, the stud at the top right is new and I used one of the bolts that came with the VRSF kit on the top left.
Anti seize on both so I hopefully don't have to deal with that again.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
|
|
|
|
|