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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #423226
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Interesting, those wobble things look neat, never seen them before.
1/4" is definitely the key though, can't get the 3/8 in there.


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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Stephan Tanchak] #423230
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Originally Posted by Stephan Tanchak
How do you tighten that throttle body elbow bolt on the bottom there? I can just get my fingers in there, tighten it as much as I can, then leave that one.


I modified my wrench specifically for that bolt haha

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You won't get socket on a 1g with a VRSF Elbow. Well maybe with the mani to head brace.

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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #423233
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Interesting, those wobble things look neat, never seen them before.
1/4" is definitely the key though, can't get the 3/8 in there.


You've never seen a wobble?????? I think my mind just bomb

They're in almost every somewhat large socket set nowadays and they're pretty common in general, or so I thought?

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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #423234
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Yeah I ditched the brace when I put the FMIC in.

Haha Sal, haven't bought a huge set, I have a pretty basic set and then I just grab what I need.


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When I swapped to the NT 1g TB I no longer had to worry about stuff like that, I highly recommend doing the swap. I even have a line on a NT TB and NT intake manifold for you 6bolt guys if anyone is interested.

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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #423238
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What's the difference in a NT manifold?

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Im no expert on 6bolts but I'm told it flows more.

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and it has a flange so you no longer need an elbow.
I think that's only the case for 2g to 1g, both 1g TBs have the same opening from what I am reading, 60mm

My bad you said manifold, no idea.


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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #423242
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It's no issue with the punishment racing tb elbow, lots of room.

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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #423243
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I think that way makes more sense, it's seems like it would be much smooth for airflow.

Jason that seems like a nice thing for 1gs, I just checked and the 1g elbow looks the same as the VRSF one. Never mind that seems to be just the one that Ziggy has and some other sites.
Seems to be hit and miss from what I am seeing.


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Oh Jason you got tons of room. Not so much with the VRSF.....

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Re: Love and Hate [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #423256
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So not much luck with the car today, she idles a pinch high for my liking and it seems I am back to the crazy low deadtime I was at before to get the STFT all together.
I will be going for a cruise tomorrow so we will see what the LTFTlo and hi look like after that.
Here is an idle log I just took.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f526o5gtjsdwdq7/log.2014.03.11-06.elg


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Did you BLT it after the install?

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No, going to go and grab everything I need to make one. I seem to have misplaced my old one.


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Well Service Ontario just lit a fire under my ass to get my car tuned, I have an etest this year before I can get my registration.


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Easy peez. Do you have a cat?

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I do have a cat! I am worried that because the car is idling at 13:1 that I won't be passing.


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Tuning for emission is simple.


Did you boost leak test her then?

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I built the tester but won't have a chance till monday


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Ok start there. Pm me i can help you out with the tune.

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Thank you sir! Will do!


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Also run some seafoam stuff. Carbon buildup inside the combustion chamber will hinder the results. Clean oil, maybe even a little thicker than the usual, no boost leaks, adjust the tune. Simple stuff. As long as your cat is working, you'll pass.


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Just make sure all the seafoam is out of the system before running the test, or it will cause you to fail. If you just use it to clean the intake, then it will clear out quickly.

I wouldn't add any to your fuel tank if you're running an etest soon.


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I think I may do the sea-foam in the intake and in the oil, just worried a little about leaks and such and them getting worse if I run them in the oil.


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Id just etest it and see what it does first. As long as your cat is good... It should be fine.


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Doesn't it cost money to retest?


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Yes. As of april 1st it $30 for the first test. The retest used to be $17.50. I am not sure if the are lowering that price aswell.

Get you idle tune in check first. And your blt that bitch.

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A good cat will fix most emission issues that would be a concern on an idle test. My old 1g past with flying colors with 60psi in one cyclinder. And my dads old jimmy just pasted with so much oil leaking thru the valve seals that he could not see thru his back window when he started up. I dont think the slightly rich idle will fail.. The cat will even it out. But either way.. The retest is the same price.


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Oh.. It was cheaper?? I know its not free.. But ive never failed a test.


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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
I think I may do the sea-foam in the intake and in the oil, just worried a little about leaks and such and them getting worse if I run them in the oil.


It's generally best to add it to the oil close to when you need an oil change (try to get around 100km of driving, but I wouldn't leave it in more than a couple weeks). Stick with that method, and it'll clean out oil galleys but won't make your leaks worse.


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what are you trying to achieve with the seafoam? Pitting it in the oil isnt gonna help the etest.


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Put meth in the tank like a L and 87 octane and a new cat you'll pass

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Unless you have cams. In which case, good luck.


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Cams haven't gone on yet so I am ok there, Yeah I am hoping I won't have to put anything fancy in the tank to get it to pass but we shall see.

Seafoam question was just in generally and something I had been looking at.


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If you wan to clean out the oil gallys.. You can pay a garage to flush the block.. Or buy something that you run in the oil... But drain the oil right away. The only time i would suggest to use seafoam... Is drop a few teaspoons into the spark plug holes enough to seep into the rings. Let it sit over night and then crank it over a few times without the plugs... Then start it up and let it smoke for a half hour. I use Marvel mystery oil myself. If you really clean you rings and valves...and keep em clean. Run water injection. It will steam everything.


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BLT came out good, only leak I have is off the jpipe where it's supposed to seal to the turbo, but it's been like that since I got it from Ziggy.


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Alright so it seems the car is proving to be a bitch to tune, I have reset everything that I had set before I replaced the throttle body and now I am struggling to tune it.
If you are feeling generous take a look at the link below and let me know what you think.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/714nan6i509j6fx/log.2014.03.20-04.elg


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I'm certainly no tuning expert, and I don't tune with DSMLink at all, but I know that if I found a boost leak anywhere, it would be fixed before I start tuning.

I would fix the seal between your turbo and j-pipe before continuing.


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Try this. I:

-Lowered your deadtime settings

-Increased the TPS that anti-lag kicks in, so you can launch it with just 2 stepping if you dont need the anti lag

-Changed your boost gauge to show knock instead of boost

You should:

-Be sure there are no boost leaks, post throttle body at very least

-Run your fans while doing the emissions test as a engine that is either too hot/cold won't do as well

-Be sure to calibrate your TPS settings if you haven't yet, and manually adjust your tps to use the software as little as possible.


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