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March 25, 2014 11:01 am UTC
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Kirk Harding
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I'll be getting the 92 awd etested when I get home and its been a while since I did one with a AWD, with my beater fwd I just stuck some alcohol from the drug store and she passed, but my AWD is a different story, I have removed all the emissions equipment and I have 650's,burnt chip,adpr,walbro 225, maf-t, but..... I do have a catalytic converter at least. Do they fail if there is a check engine light or is it simply based on the exhaust readings? If it fails could it be as easy as turning the fuel pressure down? Can I use my logger to check if it will pass?
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Re: etest question
[Re: Kirk Harding]
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March 25, 2014 01:24 pm UTC
March 25, 2014 01:24 pm UTC
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Jeff Mitchell
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For a '92 nothing has changed with the way they do the test. They will stick a sniffer in the tailpipe and measure actual emissions during a 2-stage idle test.
They don't care if the check engine light is on. On a '92 You could be running the car with a potato instead of a computer for all they care. Hence you can't use the logger to know if you will pass.
Generally if the car is tuned well and you have a wirjubg cat you should be fine. If you've got mechanical issues (intake leaks, mismatched injectors and chip, etc) then you'll likely fail.
Did the car pass last time, and have you made changes since?
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Re: etest question
[Re: Kirk Harding]
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March 25, 2014 02:39 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Where do I get a wirjubg cat, that sounds like my ticket to passing!!
I would just make sure you are idling at a right afr and that you are idling low enough.
As Jeff said as long as the car is well tuned you should be good.
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Re: etest question
[Re: Kirk Harding]
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March 25, 2014 04:09 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Re: etest question
[Re: Kirk Harding]
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March 25, 2014 04:22 pm UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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E-tests are in fact the WORST.
Cars will never cause as much pollution as the factories situated here do, yet they are not limited. Logging companies, coal power plants, nuclear plants (Three Mile Island incident where the situation was played down and let the people get irradiated until the evacuation order was given), etc..
List goes on and on. Stopping car pollution isn't even beginning to solve the problem.
You could try running the car on nearly pure methanol, maybe to pass the emissions test.
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Re: etest question
[Re: Kirk Harding]
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March 25, 2014 10:44 pm UTC
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Haha, I wish I could convince the girlfriend of that. It's getting a bit old hearing about how we never take my car, and I don't even have the excuse of it being on jackstands. Although last time we went to take it it wasn't starting :S
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Re: etest question
[Re: Kirk Harding]
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March 26, 2014 12:15 am UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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I didn't think you could get away with such a high idle, I thought they have the specs for each car
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Re: etest question
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March 26, 2014 12:31 am UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Oh ok that's good to know.
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Re: etest question
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March 26, 2014 12:33 am UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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Worldwide there are currently over 1 billion cars on the road which account for 23% of the worlds greenhouse gas emissions. Just sayin.... How can they calculate that though. Newer cars are getting more and more efficient. China is a terrible polluter with all their coal plants, countries used to dump their nuclear waste into the oceans, etc. What I'm saying is if a country actually cares about polluting, they should find different and better ways of doing it. I'm all for cleaning this place up, but there are many things they could do that would have a greater impact. Not to mention, how easy it is to trick an emissions test (unless you are me. Haha)
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Re: etest question
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March 26, 2014 12:34 am UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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You can get away with a high idle, if the guys are cool about it, they will just bypass the engine speed.
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Re: etest question
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March 26, 2014 12:43 am UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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I actually found that too much of anything is bad. I tried running really lean and that made it worse, so did too much timing pulled AND added.
But do add a GOOD amount of methyl hydrate. I have a feeling I added too little when I was doing mine.
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Re: etest question
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March 26, 2014 01:01 am UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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This one shop I went to, the guy let me just sit there and play around with my settings, free of charge to see if I could get it lower than ~1200PPM I should also add, when I took my exhaust apart and wanted to see if my cat was clogged by pointing the inlet downwards and hitting it, this nasty black and dark grey sand looking stuff came pouring out. With the stock super leaky exhaust, boost leaks (MAF setup at the time), no meth, near dead alternator and an oscillating idle, I failed the test by 20PPM.
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Re: etest question
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March 27, 2014 06:11 am UTC
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Salomon Ponte
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I have...multiple times.
BC272s, full 3" turboback (w. OEM cat switched in for e-test), Super 94 (fuel, not the turbo :P).
Not even a need to specially tune it...that OEM cat, despite having 200k on it and being over 20 years old gives me near perfect results.
Last edited by Salomon Ponte; March 27, 2014 06:13 am UTC.
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