Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 08, 2014 01:29 pm UTC
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Spend a few minutes reading tuners and you realize why you don't go on there that much anymore. Those pieces are nice, Terry had modified some 1g poly mounts to go into his 2g but now I am curious as to what his rear looks like cause I don't remember hearing about a sleeve.
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 08, 2014 07:19 pm UTC
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Do you have the stock sleeve still in the rear? or is it just open there?
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 08, 2014 08:57 pm UTC
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I mean outer sleave, yes that is the rear mount Look at the ones that were posted from tuners.
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Re: Project Apex
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July 09, 2014 03:05 am UTC
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Btw Daren how do you like the upgrade? Do you feel a big diff? Pun intended Lol... Not intended
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 09, 2014 03:35 am UTC
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As I previously mentioned I would like to do some lapping with the car eventually. Nothing competitive for now but I would like to be able to run multiple 5-10 mins sessions in a day. I know I need to pay attention to heat management. Short term plan will be : - Use a spare hood (thx Brian if your offer still stand ) with a big hole in it for the track day - Buy a turbo blanket, prob PTP lava - I'm debating between getting my headers coated at swayntech or wrapping them. JMFab advised me against wrapping as it could crack the welds prematurely... Any advice or first hand exp??? I'm also planning on getting the Kiggly HLA pres reg and perhaps a moroso oil pan ( found a used one for 400$...) I'm not sure if it's worth it or not any advice???
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 09, 2014 03:50 am UTC
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I wish they sold moroso pans for 7 bolts. I want one. If you're tracking I'd get one. Long fast turns could make the oil slosh to one side and leave the pickup dry.
With the kiggly HLA and larger capacity oil pain, you'll have lots less a chance of being dry.
For coating, id go swain tech for sure. Not only will wrapping harm the manifold, but most companies won't warranty it if it's been wrapped.
I've had zero over heating issues with my car running twin FAL slim fans, a turbo and manifold blanket, Fluidlyne rad, stant thermostat and a mix of water and a bottle of redline water wetter.
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 09, 2014 03:53 am UTC
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Btw Daren how do you like the upgrade? Do you feel a big diff?
I just started driving the car again 3 days ago, so can't give a proper impression on the diff yet. I did spend 25min doing figure 8's to break it in. I did get carried away a few times, but stopped myself short of drifting This was just in 1st & 2nd so not a real test. My driveway is a pretty big incline so I have to take it on an angle, which lifts a rear tire. Previously the VC LSD would spin the lifted wheel, which you could easily hear/feel. So far the new LSD has been silent doing this, so I stuck my head out the door to look at the lifted tire tonight & its not spinning freely, looked like it was doing what it was supposed too. As for ceramic vs wrapping, I sometimes do both, depending on location. I'd say typically a well made blanket will reduce heat more vs ceramic. I have swaintech on my exhaust mani, O2 housing & the first few feet of my downpipe. I then also run a blanket on my exhaust mani & just a blanket on the turbine housing (had a different ceramic coating on a previous turbine housing & the coating didn't last, it started to flake off).
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Daren Peacock]
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July 10, 2014 04:12 am UTC
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Btw Daren how do you like the upgrade? Do you feel a big diff?
I just started driving the car again 3 days ago, so can't give a proper impression on the diff yet. I did spend 25min doing figure 8's to break it in. I did get carried away a few times, but stopped myself short of drifting This was just in 1st & 2nd so not a real test. My driveway is a pretty big incline so I have to take it on an angle, which lifts a rear tire. Previously the VC LSD would spin the lifted wheel, which you could easily hear/feel. So far the new LSD has been silent doing this, so I stuck my head out the door to look at the lifted tire tonight & its not spinning freely, looked like it was doing what it was supposed too. As for ceramic vs wrapping, I sometimes do both, depending on location. I'd say typically a well made blanket will reduce heat more vs ceramic. I have swaintech on my exhaust mani, O2 housing & the first few feet of my downpipe. I then also run a blanket on my exhaust mani & just a blanket on the turbine housing (had a different ceramic coating on a previous turbine housing & the coating didn't last, it started to flake off). Thanks for the info, I'm curious to know how you got a blanket to fit on your exhaust mani... you had it custom made? Also do you remember the ball park cost of all your coating done by Swaintech
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 10, 2014 04:53 pm UTC
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Thanks for the info,
I'm curious to know how you got a blanket to fit on your exhaust mani... you had it custom made? Also do you remember the ball park cost of all your coating done by Swaintech
I'm running the FP cast exhaust mani & there's a company that makes blankets for this specific mani. Guys name is Levi, he actually can make custom blankets as well, so he might be able to make something, depending on your setup: http://turbo-performance-products.myshopify.com/Don't specifically remember the cost of the Swaintech coating, I don't remember it being super expensive. I think it was in the same ballpark as most other ceramic coating.
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 10, 2014 05:03 pm UTC
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Blanket and wrapping will probably be the same thing from JMFabs perspective. If the headers are well built you should have no problem wrapping them.
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 10, 2014 10:50 pm UTC
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Thanks for the input guys... My only beef with the ceramic coating is more down time on the car... The summer is flying by quickly. The car has nothing major to fix so I want it back on the road... This weekend. I'll probably fix the leaking transfer case/ input shaft in the near futur. It only drips slightly when the front of the car is jacked... Not when it's flat. Also the clutch slave cylinder boot is not looking good but I'm not losing any fluid... Should I replace before I hit the road... I know I need to do it be I'm itching to drive the car ASAP... I prob need new injectors top seal... See pic
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 14, 2014 02:10 am UTC
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How come you went bent? I thought the whole concept is that condensation gets out and it would get out better if it was straight, also they have timed ones which i hear are pretty cool.
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Re: Project Apex
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July 14, 2014 04:10 am UTC
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Timed one would be cool, the bent was to be able to clear the floor/ or the tank when the valve is in the open position. Also, when there is air pressure in the tank the water in the bottom gets spayed out pretty quickly, the bend doesn't affect it's functionality.
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Re: Project Apex
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July 17, 2014 06:44 pm UTC
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Re: Project Apex
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July 17, 2014 07:31 pm UTC
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I'd second Stephen's advise, OEM on the slave. Everyone complains of the aftermarket rebuild kits failing for the master & slave. Not sure if people have better luck with the OEM rebuild kit, but last time I check a new OEM slave wasn't that much.
On the injectors, maybe someone can confirm as I don't have that specific brand/style. But typically what you see cracked is basically used as a spacer & not the actual sealing surface (which is usually some sort of oring at the rail end). I know everytime I have my rail off, those spacers are always cracked & I replace all seals each time, so they must not stay in good shape for long. My guess is your likely fine for this season, but get a complete seal kit in the future, if you don't know when they were changed last.
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Re: Project Apex
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July 17, 2014 08:46 pm UTC
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I'd second Stephen's advise, OEM on the slave. Everyone complains of the aftermarket rebuild kits failing for the master & slave. Not sure if people have better luck with the OEM rebuild kit, but last time I check a new OEM slave wasn't that much.
On the injectors, maybe someone can confirm as I don't have that specific brand/style. But typically what you see cracked is basically used as a spacer & not the actual sealing surface (which is usually some sort of oring at the rail end). I know everytime I have my rail off, those spacers are always cracked & I replace all seals each time, so they must not stay in good shape for long. My guess is your likely fine for this season, but get a complete seal kit in the future, if you don't know when they were changed last. I was once again a bit quick on the RTM trigger and have ordered new FIC seal kit which is pretty cheap. I might not install them right away however. For the clutch slave, I ordered the OEM rebuild kit. I will do a quick write up and let you know if it's worth the hassle.
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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July 17, 2014 09:22 pm UTC
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LOL I had a lot of issues with my car when I first got it and I always ask a ton of question on everything.
When I do things I tend to research them as much as I can, I am still learning a ton after 4 years.
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Re: Project Apex
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July 19, 2014 04:14 am UTC
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Better, eh? I'll have to pick one of these up.
The less reasons I have to be lazy, the more frequently I will change fluids.
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Re: Project Apex
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July 25, 2014 05:34 am UTC
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One step fwd two step backward... I guess it's the name of the game. It's hard to tell the difference between the oem and aftermarket when on the car. When you open it it it become obvious. No big deal I'll just have to order a new clutch slave from Ziggy, my only problem is that it will prob justify buying more stuff from them... to save on shipping, right...:) I got a chance to fill the tcase with the hvy shockproof. There was diff type of oil in there much lighter but I just filed up because but I'll have to drain it soon to replace the oil seal. Any issue with mixing fluid? Anyways got a chance to try this guy, works great!
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Re: Project Apex
[Re: Guillaume Lauze]
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September 18, 2014 12:05 pm UTC
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I would just hookup the BLT to the next pipe after the turbo, but take a picture of the bay and it will give us a better idea.
IM is a bitch to deal with so I can imagine your frustration.
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Re: Project Apex
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October 15, 2014 12:39 am UTC
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Decided I was done for the season, had few hours of garage time this wknd so got the car in std DSM stance (on jacks) and started to tackling one of the car major annoyance, the gas smell. First gen jmfab fuell cell come with a vent so you basically have an open gas container in your driveway/ garage at all time. It's even worts when the car is idling because their is so much fuel running in circle trough the lines and creating fume. Furthermore, whenever you fuel you can be assured at least half a L of gas gets out from that vent before your realize what's happening. So here it is The annoying jaz vent can be seen at the bottom of the pic. It also features a metal ball that's suppose to prevent spill if your car is upside down after an accident... I hate it. That is why jmfab have stopped installing them in their new tank. Air comes in from the gas cap and you have to live with the small amount of pressure build up in your tank. From what I read, it's no a big deal.
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