Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 23, 2015 03:29 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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this issue is with Royal Purple from CT, which is just the basic stuff with no zinc or any other goodies. Bookmark this link though it has all the info you need. http://store.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=Oil_Supply
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 23, 2015 03:39 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 23, 2015 03:49 pm UTC
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So just from a quick look at that article it looks like the value for the price of oil that makes BP the desirable oil? That's the reason I chose it.
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 23, 2015 04:15 pm UTC
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That's pretty wicked price. Ontario Competition Fuels, was 80 some for the same.
Going to try HotNights Hotrods when I need my next batch as it's on my way to my parents and right at the end of Forks of the Credit on 10
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 23, 2015 04:23 pm UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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I blow a lot of money on AMS Dominator oil for my car, and I don't regret it.
Now, for a stock DSM, I'd just run a simple synthetic, whatever brand is on sale at Canadian Tire. And allow the season and oil pressure to judge what weight I use.
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 23, 2015 10:05 pm UTC
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Salomon Ponte
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Coarse thats fine if you only drive your car a few hours a year!!!!!! Daily over here! Since I drive more than anyone here, especially in DSMs, I feel like I'm pretty qualified to say that running Brad Penn and doing 5-8k km oil changes have presented no issues. I do 5k MAX on the Talon (run much harder) and 6-8k on the Laser since it's all stock. I've put over 20k on the laser alone in the past 4.5 months - 1.5 of which I wasn't even driving it - and it did fine. I've been using Brad Penn in the Talon for a while now and again - no issues on a car that's making a decent bit of power, driven hard, and driven lots. I'm on track to click off 60-80k+ in my DSMs alone for 2015 and it will all be with Brad Penn. The Malibu doesn't see as much driving but she still sees a fair bit when the weather is nice and Brad Penn has worked well for me there as well.
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 23, 2015 10:32 pm UTC
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Jay Stacey
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I wouldnt think you wouldnt notice any issues using a spacific oil unless you could measure wear tolerances in your bearings. As the oil breaks down, it becomes less effective. But you wouldnt notice untill your motor blew or your turbo blows......
Ive read several post of people who have their oil tested and the brad penn seems to be known for breaking down faster then average oils. But it is a race oil and isnt really intended for daily use.
Not saying you cant daily it, just meant that Rotella is good for way more then 5k changes. Altho I change my oil way too much to worrie about life spans. Lol.
For the record.. I use what ever is on sale at walmart in the truck... Except for no name brands. and Sandras 1g gets on sale synthetic.
Wheres Jason Drew and his Vr1 valvoline????
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 24, 2015 12:41 am UTC
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Jeremy Gilbert
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These engines run fine on regular conventional zinc-free oil. Generally the bigger concern regarding oil is your turbocharger. A 14B is not picky.
Royal Purple is a waste of money. Dominator, VR1, Rotella, Brad Penn, or regular, plain old Castrol GTX. It doesn't REALLY matter; pick something decent, stick with it, change it every 5000km. You put enough mileage on that racing oils will easily make it 5000km before they're dirty.
When you're about to run a freshly rebuilt engine or turbo, get picky with your oil.
And at the end of the day, pick your oil based on oil. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but as far as costs go, engine oil is a small one. I spent more money on new bolts this winter than I have on oil changes for the past 3 years, and I only run AMSOil....
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Jay Stacey]
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April 24, 2015 01:27 am UTC
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Jeremy Gilbert
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Everything I learned over the years about rebiulding turbos.. Is they prefer zink. And dont like detergants. I run any oil in my truck cause its just a NA gas motor. I run synthetic in the stock 1g find turbos like synthetic. But I run the sh!t out of my 2g with a diesel turbo so give it what I believe will take the most abuse and offer the best protection. And try to keep it conveniant and affordable since I change my 2g oil way more then I change my other vehicles oils.
But thats just me. And yes Royal purple is just an expansive name. Some would say the same for Amsoil. My post directed at Manny, though I realize I never actually indicated that in any way. I agree with everything you said. And the people who would say the same about AMSOil would be correct, if referring to their standard oil (XL series, I believe). It's crap. Dominator is God's gift to turbochargers. What I meant was, between two oils, it really doesn't matter which one is better if both are more than good enough.
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 24, 2015 09:44 am UTC
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Jay Stacey
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It was a 80s chrysler. That piston slap never went away ! that thing never let me down. 3 differant colours of body panels, 2 differant types of wheels, and so much steering slop, it would never actually drive straight.
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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April 24, 2015 03:09 pm UTC
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Bryan OShaughnessy
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Well said Salomon! I've used Rotella T through my old Stealth TT exclusively and now in my 4G63 and it's great stuff, and on the cheap! I used to use the expensive stuff and it didn't make sense considering how long the oil spent in the engine before it was changed.
I use OEM honda S2000 filters because of how well they're built and filter. They cost over half of what the oil costs but it makes more sense to put the extra money there.
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 27, 2015 10:13 pm UTC
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All my vehicles are turbocharged except for my bike. I have a preferred customer account with Amsoil. I've used amsoil since my Lancer was new, everytime (it's a daily) and in our truck (Ecoboost).
However in the talon I have been running Castrol GTX. Not sure if I will continue to do so, but I end up with quite a bit in my catch can so I was concerned with the cost associated to topping it up and dumping whats in the catch can. Considered the Rotella T6 as an alternative.
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 28, 2015 02:00 am UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Thin for sure, I put GTX in my engine and it was pretty much all gone within 500km
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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April 28, 2015 02:48 am UTC
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Roman, how come you run 15w40. I am wondering if I should switch to that.
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Re: Brad Penn vs Royal Purple HPS vs Rotella T6
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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May 02, 2015 02:23 pm UTC
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Here is something on oil viscosity. it points out that oil temperature is a main factor in choosing the higher number of a multi vis. oil. http://www.motorstate.com/oilviscosity.htm
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