Re: 30+ psi
[Re: Ali Ghadban]
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August 04, 2015 04:45 pm UTC
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If you pull the valve cover you can take a peak, factory are bolts so it will be obvious. As Reza said it's been discussed a lot, there are plenty of guys out there still on stock blocks and all they did was swap to head studs with the head still on to retain the factory head gasket.
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Re: 30+ psi
[Re: Ali Ghadban]
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August 04, 2015 05:01 pm UTC
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I did some googling and it looks like there are markings on the end of the studs but I can't find a picture that actually shows me what those markings are. It could tell you what they are, maybe someone who has a box uninstalled can chime in.
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Re: 30+ psi
[Re: Ali Ghadban]
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August 04, 2015 05:31 pm UTC
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L19's for 6 bolts are discontinued. I just sold the last set I had down to South Dakota. It looks like ARP has come up with bolts BETTER (so they claim, and definitely more expensive) than the L19's, but they are NOT offering them for 6 bolt. Only for 7 bolt and EVO. They are calling the material "custom age 625+"
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Re: 30+ psi
[Re: Ali Ghadban]
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August 04, 2015 05:41 pm UTC
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No, I stopped carrying A1's because the only source I had for them was Magnus and they are such dicks to deal with...
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Re: 30+ psi
[Re: Ali Ghadban]
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August 04, 2015 06:19 pm UTC
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Similar, some prefer them. I just found out the 6 bolt L19's are NOT discontinued, they have just been on a very long back order, and SHOULD be available again soon.
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Re: 30+ psi
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August 04, 2015 06:39 pm UTC
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Re: 30+ psi
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August 04, 2015 10:24 pm UTC
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Not sure, but I checked with MAP and they don't have them anymore either. I think they only have them for EVO X. Maybe they got tired of dealing with Magnus also?
I know Extreme PSI buys some items from Magnus also, but even he doesn't carry them.
Last time I tried to buy them from Magnus, after dicking me around for MONTHS, they still didn't even HAVE them. They offered to overnight them in, then overnight them to me, after bullshit excuses for 2 months. I told them just cancel it, and it took well over a week to get my credit card refunded.
Since L19s WILL still be available for 6 bolt, I am not even going to TRY to get these....
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Re: 30+ psi
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August 05, 2015 03:40 pm UTC
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It's worth a shot, but from my experience it never did anything. Once the seal is compromised, it will never seal again 100%.
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Re: 30+ psi
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August 05, 2015 04:49 pm UTC
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^^^ That sounds right, my car and others have done the same. Compression test will also show perfect. It only lifts under boost.
Boiling coolant is a tell tale sign head gasket is lifting. Well it's not really boiling, it's all the exhaust gases leaking past the head gasket which you hear in the overflow once the car is off.
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Re: 30+ psi
[Re: Ali Ghadban]
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August 05, 2015 08:51 pm UTC
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Good video, I wonder how the results would be with L19's or A1's. I usually torque my A1's to 110 ft lbs with Moly and never need to go back in there again. As per Marco, these A1's don't stretch. You'll squish the head before it stretches. Alex, if you haven't already bought one, use a Felpro permatorque headgasket with the L19's. Pricey but worth every penny , however the head studs are definitely more important than the choice of headgasket.
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Re: 30+ psi
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August 05, 2015 09:25 pm UTC
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Has anyone tried changing out head studs with the head still on? Is it possible or a waste of time? I did that with my first set of reg ARP's & never had any issues & know a good number of others have done the same. Although this is typically on setups that aren't pushing to start with, so you may not have the same luck. Also, if you get the L19's, make sure to not touch them with bare hands (wear latex gloves), the oils from your skin can eventually damage them.
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