Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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November 26, 2015 08:36 am UTC
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More for looks and price was right. And now I have spare ignition system. parts will eventually be hard to find. Same with PTU. I bought a second one for 15$. Spares! Chuck "DSM parts hoarder" Lavoie
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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November 26, 2015 11:03 am UTC
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Won't need PCV valve and check valve with a proper catch can setup. Mike brightside or Jason Drew will be able to help you with the valve cover and can both make it pretty after. Also what's your plan with the valve cover? why three? I would raise the price of the COP a fair bit because you should have a booster in there, as mentioned many times stock system is good for 500hp+ so you are just throwing money away for anything less than that. I would go with the 16g for quicker spool. Ziggy has AN pump to rail kit so you can see what the cost is like.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 26, 2015 02:50 pm UTC
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Won't need PCV valve and check valve with a proper catch can setup. Mike brightside or Jason Drew will be able to help you with the valve cover and can both make it pretty after. Also what's your plan with the valve cover? why three? Jack's PCV I would raise the price of the COP a fair bit because you should have a booster in there, as mentioned many times stock system is good for 500hp+ so you are just throwing money away for anything less than that. You are correct. Forgot about the booster. I will leave it for last. I would go with the 16g for quicker spool. I had a turbonetics small 16g. It is a very snappy turbo. I need to find something that will replace the SCM61 during downtime without much radical change to plumbing (oil).
[quote=Bryan Lawrence]Ziggy has AN pump to rail kit so you can see what the cost is like.
Ziggy will be by go to guy for new parts.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 26, 2015 04:05 pm UTC
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Thanks for that Charles, very interesting read on PCV. I currently only have one side of that equation with only vacuum when punching it, I would love if I could find a similar setup like that but going the AN route, I think for that I would probably throw check valves in each of the lines and have a -10 or -12 into the intake plenum. I would prefer that route cause not a big fan of all the lines he has running in those pictures.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 26, 2015 05:33 pm UTC
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Any of the FP green/red/black would be a good replacement and they are sale right now, plumbed exactly like any MHI turbo and are robust.
I had an old SCM5031 and the FP spools faster and have more top end, personally I wouldn't bother with rebuilding it unless the price was very decent, I know some rebuilders won't even touch those turbos as they are very common for thrust bearing failure.
I run two -6an lines from the VC to my can and a -8an from the can to the intake pipe, can collects quite a lot of crud, oil never smells gassy or given me any issues.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 26, 2015 05:49 pm UTC
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Another +1 for Jason Drew's work. I got a valve cover from him and it's beautiful, with two -8an fittings up top and powder coated.
Also, is going with that aem fuel rail for asthetics only? Because the stock rail is plenty, and the Magnus one flows the most.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 26, 2015 09:30 pm UTC
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I agree that the 3 line one is messy. I would run 2 back toward firewall with catch can + PCV should do.
FP turbo is nice, wonder if the family would question a turbo under the xmas tree from Santa. The exchange rate will kill.
I have full boost (26psi) between 4900 and 5100 RPM which is decent for a huge turbo
I am trying to make it pretty under the hood. So some stuff is aesthetics. Many of my wishlist is only based on someone selling stuff in classified at low price. (part outs)
I may not make all of it.. but it's a target. Again, assuming good compression.
Jason, I will have work for you next year should you want it.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 26, 2015 09:38 pm UTC
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No pcv valve on mine, it's pointless unless it's plumbed to the intake manifold or somewhere that sees boost pressure.
Well with the current sale at $799, even with the exchange, it's less than what I paid for my red.
I see 30 psi by 4300-4500 on my red, which I think is great on a 65lbs/min turbo.
I'm always open to jobs.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 26, 2015 10:55 pm UTC
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No pcv valve on mine, it's pointless unless it's plumbed to the intake manifold or somewhere that sees vacuum. I know that's what you meant
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 26, 2015 11:56 pm UTC
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No pcv valve on mine, it's pointless unless it's plumbed to the intake manifold or somewhere that sees vacuum. I know that's what you meant No I meant boost. It's a one way valve and in the stock configuration, it needs to close when the IM sees boost, otherwise it's going to go into your crankcase. With a catch can setup that only gets its vacuum source pre-turbo, it never sees boost pressure, so the pcv valve does nothing but create a hindrance to flow in the line.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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November 27, 2015 02:53 am UTC
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Oh my bad I thought you just meant if you were running one line not both, I got you now.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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So I can place catch can on firewall and move the PCV connection to the catch can (with a line leading to pre turbo instead?) (just put rubber cap over intake nipple for PCV)
No check valve would be needed as would never see PSI. Just -HG at all times.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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Finally: Compression Results (6 bolt)
155 - 145 - 155 - 160
85% of 160: 136 Standard 161 Service 120
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Re: Project: Save Me
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April 04, 2016 04:55 pm UTC
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Tis' the season to spend money. I have been waiting for double digit weather as the garage has no heater. 2016 work plan has shifted a bit. Here is this month's work plan. April Order:- New shifter cable clips (lost one on way to storage) - Shifter Base Bushing Kit + Short Throw Shifter Kit - PCV Delete + Catch Can - New fuel filter + FuelLab AFPR Kit + ProSport FP Gauge - Meth Hose and Jets - TB Shaft Seals - Exhaust Gaskets (Head to DP) (remove all leaks) - ECMLink V3 Full (Upgrade from Lite) - Cold Air Intake Like This Box but with ducting leading to intake box instead of missing headlight. Or Externally Because I plan to run venting to my front brakes later on, will most likely move air filter out as I need the vent from front bumper to lead to brakes. - New K&N - Timing Light Followed by lots of tuning. ------------------------------------------------------------- May-June Work:- Oil Cooler Kit - 0/1 Gauge Wire. - YellowTop Battery - Fuses, Breakers, Distribution Blocks - Strut Tower Rust Repair. Jason D. You do this kind of repair? And this is where it gets tricky with a bigger lump of cash to tackle 1 problem. I need to choose between: #1. Making more power up top with Cams (272/272 or 280/280) w/ Beehive Springs and Revised Lifters (I'm running out of steam at 6400rpm) (this may get better if I fix boost leak at TB shaft seals and Exhaust Leaks) I can't seem to flow more than 42-45Lbs before it starts to fall off a little. or #2. Get a big brake setup (Wilwood or Cobra. Leaning to Wilwood for ease of pad changes). Remember, I have a 1 piston brake and smaller rotor on the front passenger side. ------------------------------------------------------------- I have 2 other major things I want to take care of, but I am putting off. #1. Transmission Rebuild By Jack's. (Our dollar is too weak for this) #2. Rad Support Front End. I really should get this done, but my fab piece is working well. I am also concerned with Cylinder #3. It's the only one below 155. (By 10 psi) That is all. Looking forward to start working on Bixley again.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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April 04, 2016 05:09 pm UTC
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Charles wicked progress!!
Doing a great job staying on track! Reza is the place to go!
Why not teach yourself to weld and fix the towers.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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Reza @ Dynotune! Local trans build! I have not read about this! Thanks for heads up. Why not teach yourself to weld and fix the towers. Now that you mention it, some body shop would charge me 500$ to fix it. Could get a little welder and learn. Long as I don't set the car on fire! Suggestion on a welder to get? Newbie willing to learn. I will definitely be buying a powder coating kit this year also.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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April 04, 2016 05:44 pm UTC
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I am very happy with my lincoln 140, I just ran out of flux core so going to grab some gas as all the guy's say it's the bees knees
Planning to do the same!! The new house came with an extra oven so going to toss that in the garage. We should start a powder thread and share tips!
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Re: Project: Save Me
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I can do it if you want make the 3 hour drive down from Ottawa, it would strictly be the metal work, not final touch up/paint.
If you do it with a mig, do it with gas, flux core is too hot for good results and you'll get lots of burn through, especially if you're new to it. Tig is the best way but pricey and hard to learn. The great thing though is your welds end up almost perfectly flush with the surrounding metal so there is very little filler and prep work to do.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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Getting anxious.... Thanks Abbas for getting that order sorted out! Something in here should help me out. Planning next month's order!
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Re: Project: Save Me
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Didn't want to upgrade your fuel filter and do AN lines? Some pretty sweet stuff in there, look forward to the install!!
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Re: Project: Save Me
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All that will happen once the engine blows and I empty out the bay. That will be when everything gets O.C.D. treatment.
I like the black nylon braided lines more than stainless and larger lines aren't really needed till much higher HP (800ish?). They don't get me more HP right now.
The plan is the engine bay is getting blacked out with a few polished aluminum billet accent pieces.
Upgrade Path. Hit 540WHP (Track ready) (30-35psi) Wait for stock 6bolt bottom end to fold like cheap suit. Build New Engine. Hit 600WHP. (Built 2.0 (10K Rpm) or 2.3?) (35-45PSI) Wait for drivetrain to fold like cheap suit. Build drivetrain Move on to bling Then maybe shoot for 750HP (Crank)
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Re: Project: Save Me
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No progress on the car yet. But I did pick this up while I was up north. Time to practice! $700 cash. 1 full tank and a half tank. It ate into my budget for this year, but... it will be worth it. (and retains it's value well if ever I decide welding is not for me)
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Re: Project: Save Me
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Yeah that's a wicked deal!! Spool gun is the only thing I have left on my list of things I need.
Retains it's value!? You got a crazy steal, you could easily sell each of those tanks for 200 each! I am hoping to grab my tank this week and get to work soon. Right now nothing aluminum needs welding so no rush on the spool gun but if I start to find a few things that do then I will have to grab one.
Make sure you take some pictures and post up your progress!!
Is one tank c25 and the other pure argon?
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Re: Project: Save Me
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April 18, 2016 01:31 pm UTC
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Thanks for that Jason, I guess I will have to reevaluate when it gets to the point that I need it.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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They are both pure Argon. He only welded 1/8" aluminum. The welder was bought for 1 project (aluminum dock framing) and that was it. The two tanks was because refilling was over a 1 hour drive to get. He didn't want to run out mid project. Thanks for the link J. Will check it out. I found this also: http://www.gowelding.org/Now I just need to wire the garage for 240v (downside of the 180. No 120 volt option) Here is our new Official Welding Thread: http://www.ca.dsm.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=447755
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Re: Project: Save Me
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Ah ok, well that's alright! Good call on the thread, I will post some stuff once I get started.
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Re: Project: Save Me
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by downside, I just meant I can't just jump into it. I need to do work before doing work and I still need to get a mask, gloves, 240v extension ($$$$) and scraps. Welding table? Turns out the cart was meant for mastercraft welder. Doesn't fit the Lincoln well. Also only holds a 20cuft bottle. I wanted to start working on the talon. Not home wiring So here is a question regarding Meth. Should I use it with 91 octane? or with 94 still? 91 is easy to find everywhere. 94, not so much when you head north.
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