Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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May 10, 2006 02:54 pm UTC
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Dave Robinson
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Originally posted by Souraj Mehri: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave Robinson: [qb] In the spring of 1900 Man you're old. Perty good memory for a guy in his 100's. Doh!!!! Really, I'm only half that age
1990 Laser RS/T. 2007 Eclipse GT 2008 Subaru Outback
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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May 12, 2006 12:15 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Originally posted by Scott McIntyre: In 1998 I saw a loaded paprika ESi in the local Chrysler lot and just had to have it. Did you say paprika?
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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May 22, 2006 06:57 pm UTC
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John Hartman
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I always thought that V8's were the only real way to make power, like most of the world.
I saw adds for the Talon and Eclipse in media, but I poo-poohed it like everyone else.
I went into a dealer in 1990 and there was a triple black 90 TSI awd 5spd in there. OH MY GOD, what a HOT car!! hot on the outside, so modern and awesome on the inside and apparently fast as hell. Course I couldn't afford it, so I left and forgot about it.
Fast forward to 5 years ago. I had enough money to get a nicer car and enough of having to have a car that was just good enough to get around in, so I started a search for a different car. I looked at Porsche 931's, Turbo Dodges, Mustangs, Camaros, Lancias, rotary goodness,turbo Volvos, all sorts of cars.
I joined tons of websites because I wanted to make sure there was a community for the car I bought. If lots of people are working with the car and its proven, thats a big help.
Nearly 1 year and countless test drives and dissapointment later, I finally found my red 91 TSi AWD 5spd.
See, I chose one of these because there really isn't anything these cars can't do well. They look hot, accelerate hard, go fast, stop well, handle well, are comfortable, get good fuel economy and, believe it or not, are reliable if maintained. Plus they have a large hatch if you need to move things, and have a huge international community for backup/support/r&d.
As well, IMHO, the 4g63 is one of the top engines ever made. NO need for an engine swap, unlike almost all other cars. and no need for built internals for most street driven cars.
with a few mods on power, handling and braking, these cars can keep up or better much more expensive cars and at a minor fraction of the cost. And with a more substantial, but modest set of balanced mods, hardly any car can compete for all around performance, when real street tires, pump gas and honest to god street cars are compared.
91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 5spd 91 Eagle 2000 GTX AWD 5spd
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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May 28, 2006 12:27 am UTC
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Mike Penton
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Why did I buy a DSM???
Well, Greg Kelly, another member on the board here, had a little something to do with it. Having seen him buy the '98 Tsi AWD, I was immediately jealous!
I had my sights set on a different turbo car first though....an '88 Red Toyota Supra, but aside from the high price, the automatic transmission was too much of a turn off.
Then all of a sudden, this guy right next to my house puts a for sale sign in his '95 Black Eagle Talon, TSi AWD.........my mind was made up then, I owned that car.........and 5 days later, I made it true! (thanks to student loan, haha).
2 years later, and lots of learning, I've got the car to a point where I understand how things work, and how to fix them when they don't!!
If it wasn't for the many people on this board putting their free time into making VFAQ's, replying to my various "Help-Me!" posts, and being general stand up good guys, I wouldn't be driving this sweet car today!
It's really funny how true the saying is: DSM's do make mechancis out of everyday people......hell, I'm an accountant, and I pulled the motor and tranny in my driveway (in December/January in Newfoundland)and reinstalled it all before the snow hit!
Cheers guys,
Mike Penton
96 TSiAWD: GT3076R, FMIC, 3" turbo-back, FIC 750's, ECM-Link, Devil's own meth kit-11.99 @115.88 MPH
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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May 28, 2006 12:29 am UTC
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Mike Penton
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Oh yeah, and my buddy bought an '89 Mazda RX-7, so I really had to one-up him......AWD traction was the answer to that Mike
96 TSiAWD: GT3076R, FMIC, 3" turbo-back, FIC 750's, ECM-Link, Devil's own meth kit-11.99 @115.88 MPH
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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May 28, 2006 06:58 pm UTC
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David Stoehr
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I bought a DSM for a number of reasons. I became hooked on forced induction when I purchased a 1989 Plymouth Sundance 2.5L Turbo. This thing ROCKED!! I bought it in 1996 as a university car, and much like our DSM Club family, there was SDML (Shelby Dodge Mailing List) where guys were doing mods to 2.2L and 2.5L four-bangers. From 12 second Caravan's to 10 second K cars!! A bit more boost in the Sundance and free flowing exhaust and I was hooked on smoking Prelude SRV's, Baretta GTZ's, Z-28's and 5.0's.
Then it came time to look for something newer, cooler, and of course, faster! I wanted the same kind of 'community' support for mods that I was used to, and wanted good value in a turbo car. Hence, a DSM!! I saw a bright shiny red 1G AWD and stopped at the dealer to look at it. I didn't like the interior design, so I started looking at the 2G's. I love the lines and the big, fat ass!! They were too expensive, so I just waited and dreamed and waited and dreamed until I could afford one, and that's how I ended up with my 95.
I liked it so much, that I've since bought a second 2G (1998, my current daily driver), and I'm even considering getting a 1999 Eclipse GSX as my next car! I'm not only hooked on forced induction, but also on traction!! My buying criteria for cars now is narrowed tightly down to Turbo and AWD as must haves.
The worthwhile DSM's are getting old now (except for the EVO), so I've started considering (only mildly) a couple other newer replacement cars (Mazdaspeed 6 and Audi A4/S4. Don't like the WRX's). But I don't think I'm ready to leave the DSM family yet, hence the 1999 Eclipse that's on the horizon.
I like boost so much that I haven't parted with any of my turbo cars!!! Easy and cheap to get gobs of power, with almost unlimited power potential!!! Nice!
David Stoehr 1995 Tsi AWD 1998 Tsi AWD
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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June 03, 2006 10:56 pm UTC
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Mike Randell
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Reading all these stories... is making me not wanna sell mine How I got mine was.. i went to the local acura dealership.. to look at a RSX type-S.. test drove it.. wasnt too impressed (i recently had a SiR and it was the same thing) And then i noticed this 98 Talon TSI AWD on the lot.. salesmen told me it just arrived froma trade in.. older gentlemen was 51 and this was his summer toy. My talon has 72,000kms on it and looked like it just came from the dealership in 98.. it still does.. urgh i wish i had the money to keep it and get a truck
98 TSI AWD
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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June 09, 2006 03:36 pm UTC
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Steve Rode
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Here's my short story to this:
In the summer of '93 my Reliant needed replacement. I looked at a Daytona, but eventually settled on a LeBaron turbo due to insurance. My pre-occupation with the Daytona increased when I discovered that 220 hp model. Then, one day, I saw the Talon, probably '95. In 2000 I finally switched from wanting the Daytona to buying the Talon Tsi, which follows me to this day.
It was all about the look, and the AWD...
'93 Tsi AWD AT, 16G Turbo,3" front to back '11 Evolution X, stock
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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June 09, 2006 07:17 pm UTC
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Chris Bilmer
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I wanted a car that wasn't overly common around here, and with alot of potential. So here I am 3 years later, a full second off of my stock ETs with just a few cheap bolt-ons.
Just about to slap on the 16g and a few more goodies to drop another second. Gotta love the ease at which these cars get faster.
'97 TSi AWD--12.22 @ 113.2, 0-60 in 3.6s <-- Spinning like mad! '95--RIP--12.95 @ 104.32
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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June 10, 2006 01:09 am UTC
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Cody Templeton
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I bought mine because it was absolutely gorgeous. It was about two years to the day from when I first saw my car parked to when I bought it, picking it from the exact same spot it had been sitting in when I first saw it. I picked it up with 51,007km on the clock. They were asking $12,000 but I got it for $7,500 just because I was a family friend.
I still enjoy my car just as much as I did that first day I saw it. I remember I stopped dead in my tracks and asked "What IS that!? It is so nice!"
The fact it was a ESi had absolutely no bearing. 4G63s are overrated.
1995 Eagle Talon ESi Turbo
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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June 10, 2006 03:57 am UTC
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Nigel Smith
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Originally posted by Cody Templeton: 4G63s are overrated. HA! If anything they are underrated...
Past 1992 Tsi AWD 1992 Tsi 14.30@100 Stock w/ MAF-T 1992 Tsi AWD 13.03@105 1.71 60' 1991 Tsi AWD
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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June 15, 2006 08:13 am UTC
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Jaime Loo
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Point form: -Already in high insurance -AWD traction in Canadian weather -Turbo -Cheap power=bang for the buck -Fun to drive -Self reward for finishing university/training/courses
Story: After blowing a valve in a drive from Petawawa to Toronto in my near 280000km 1990 CRX Si, I decided to replace it. Fun to drive factor is big, given that I had a road legal go-kart. So it had to be a sporty car. My insurance was also very high being a driver under 25 with a two seater, and no car would significanly save me money (few hundred dollars at most). As for perfect timing, the insurance company wanted to double my insurance rate for no reason upon renewal. So I said f#$% them, change insurance companies too.
After all this frustration, my thought was: "If I am gonna be charged as a dangerous driver, then I should have a dangerous car."
I always eyed DSM's as cheap supercars. Not many awd turbos out there to take on Canadian weather. Driving the TSI AWD feels like that there is only one AWD season, except for salt. I had bad experiences spinning out in my light CRX. With the extra weight, and awd traction, I became more aware of possible overconfidence that might have gotten dsm's in the junkyard.
Chosing a DSM is also a testament of car fanaticism...most people don't know what it is, and you gotto be willing to work on them, and it can take most modern cars still.
I also wanted a car with leather and A/C.
95 TSI AWD
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Re: Why did you buy a DSM?
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June 15, 2006 04:58 pm UTC
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Joe panton
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