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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #81
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Kitchener, ON
1992 Eagle Talon Tsi FWD

Does not retract at all on it's own.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #82
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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #83
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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #84
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Travis, you are absolutely right that a slack belt is dangerous. You should take this matter up with Transport Canada, they can force a recall by
Chrysler. Go to http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp2822/en/page4_e.htm and put in your report there. There is also a phone number 1-800-333-0510 if you have the time to be put on hold.
By the way, the steel bracket that anchors the bottom of the belt can rust and the rough surface will then abrade the belt to the point where it can fail. My '93 had retraction problems; I remember taking the interior out to get to the recoil assembly but not what I did to solve the problem. Good luck, me I will stick with my sparco seat and 5-point harness. Allan


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #85
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1990 Plymouth Laser RS-T

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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #86
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Talon AWD TSi
4" slack drivers side
Just over a foot on the passenger side (I know it wasn't asked)

Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #87
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Passenger side flakey 10% - need to manually force belt to retract back.
Drivers side ok most of the time.
Both tend not to retract fully though.
Hate those slamming doors on the buckle!
Tried fixing - no way to.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #88
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Red Deer, Alberta
1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
10-12" slack

Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #89
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I have filed with Transport Canada, waiting for an investigator to get in contact with me, I however did fix mine, one day as I was driving, got pissed of, yanked on it, heard something snap and now fully retracts, im gonna rip it apart and have a look at it to see what got bummed up in their.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #90
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Well, I finally got pissed off and ripped mine apart (it got stuck and wouldn't extend). The verdict is: anyone who has a lazy or non-retracting belt has a broken spring. If you belt is lazy, your spring is broken closer to the middle, if it doesn't retract at all it's broken near the beginning. The whole spring box is rather cheap. Obviously the wrong materials were used and Chrysler should be responsible for replacement - it's a safety issue.

In my case the spring was broken for a while near the middle, but then it ripped and blocked the rewinding spool altogether resulting in total blockage of the mechanism.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #91
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Originally posted by Mike Kozlakowski:
Well, I finally got pissed off and ripped mine apart (it got stuck and wouldn't extend). The verdict is: anyone who has a lazy or non-retracting belt has a broken spring. If you belt is lazy, your spring is broken closer to the middle, if it doesn't retract at all it's broken near the beginning. The whole spring box is rather cheap. Obviously the wrong materials were used and Chrysler should be responsible for replacement - it's a safety issue.

In my case the spring was broken for a while near the middle, but then it ripped and blocked the rewinding spool altogether resulting in total blockage of the mechanism.
Is it possible to fix that yourself or would locating parts be an issue?


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #92
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Well, the spring is a curved metal tape about 1m in length, which when wound on it's back side causes a spring effect. I haven't checked if the tape or the entire cartridge is available at Satan, but I doubt it. They probably replace the whole assemby - it would be worth a check though (Adam?)... I don't think the metal tape would be easily obtainable for the average person unless someone has connections in the steel rolling industry. If your belt won't budge like mine, you can take the spring cartrage apart, remove the torn piece and toss the broken part of the spring while you're at it. That's what I did and I now once again have a semi-functioning retractor, although it doesn't have the force it should.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #93
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I feel all your pain.

James Dolamore
middle of nowhere, On.
91 Talon n/t
A good foot of slack on both sides

Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #94
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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #95
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1991 Eagle Talon TSI FWD
16-20 inches slack,

plus plenty of salt on the passangers side thanks to people who in the winter don't check the belt when they leave my car mad


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #96
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Not sure if this helps because I've recently parted ways with my 92 Talon NT, however...
Buckled: approx 1/2foot slack.
Unbuckled, it will only retract with a little convincing.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #97
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1992 Talon Esi
U.S Model With Automatic belts
10-15" slack in shoulder belt on drivers side only, barely will retract at leat 6" will not


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #98
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doesnt retract 2 feet of slack


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #99
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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #100
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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #101
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Just had the buckle recall done. About 1 foot but it does lock when the brakes are applied and yes it has a mind of it's own when it comes to retracting. 1991 TSi FWD mint non rain car. 160K.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #102
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93 Talon TSI FWD

More than 1 foot of slack on both belts.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #103
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Less than 1 foot of slack


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #104
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i have a 92 talon and mine wont even go back in its out all the way and there is nothing i can do where do i go for the recall??? just the the Chrysler dealer????

Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #105
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Driver and Pass. belts don't retract.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #106
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francis Godere

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talon tsi 92 fwd
talon tsi 93 awd


more than 1 foot of slack on both belt
on both car

Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #107
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I have a bit of slack maybe a foot, so i gently touch it up and it goes in

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about 3 feet, the belt will not retract and I have already replaced it once! mad


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #110
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I don't know if it's the trouble you describe, but my seat belt rewind, but very slowly (both side).

If I don't watch it, I close the door on it.

I'm able to retract it enough to avoid to have slack when I drive...

I let my infos anyway.

Joël Blais
Val-d'Or, Québec
Eagle Talon ES 1993

Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #111
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Wont go up at all...i have to roll it myself

Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #112
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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #113
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So, is everyone getting this recall done now?

I just go to the dealer and say, I want my two seatbelts fixed for free, its a recall?


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #117
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What's up with the recall?
I think of this post every time i close my door


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #119
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There is no recall. It's really up to the dealer you go to. I was tempted to get Satan to fix mine, but most dealers won't do it without a fight (would have to involve Transport Canada) and those who may be willing to do it want your car first to inspect the belt assembly (makes sense), if they find something other than a defect, you pay. If the dealer is less than honest he may find something in your seatbelt that really wasn't there. The number one reason I didn't go though with it though is because I would have to leave my car there - not gonna happen. So instead I went to a junk yard and found a similar retractor spring from a different car and fixed it myself.


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Re: 1G Seat Belt Retractor - EVERYONE WITH 1G PLEASE POST! #120
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