I used to go white water rafting with Wilderness tours on the Ottawa river every summer but havent been in quite a while. I organised weekender groups of 10+ with a drive up on a friday for campfire n beer then raft/bungee/kayak/etc saturday followed by a relax and caravan back on sunday. Wilderness does a great job and have excellent customer service. Every year was great, the drive is beautiful, had a blast and thankfully the weather was great which helps a lot. Of course we may need a parts/service/tow vehicle if we go up with Talons

About $200-$250 per person + tax upfront. $200 for the weekend if you bring a tent or $250 for a basic 4 person cabin shared. For 10+ the organiser gets a free raft but I just discount the amount from all the rafters so 10+ =$20 off per person.

Wilderness Tours
*The site has all the info you need so go there first


The other option which is a bit less complicated to organise along with not requiring three days is a group skydiving trip. The cost is in the same ballpark depending on type of jump.

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I am leaning towards rafting as its a good group caravan activity and the rapids should be good with the higher water levels and winter run off. Campfire, hot tub, bar, rafting and nice weather = a nice summer diversion. Thinking the weekend after the July 4th long weekend or end of June as weather is generally nice and still have the good water.

This is to gauge interest from serious individuals ( read employed and can pay up front with no refund cause you are a lazy disorganised so and so). If it gets messy or complicated then I will just shut it down and go with a smaller group.

I've been to W.T. 4-5 summers ago, and had a
blast.

If you've never been, you're missing out.

I'd be willing to go again, if i can get the time off of work.

I'm also up for skydiving.

I went rafting at W.T.'s a couple summers on the Aug long weekend, & had a blast (of what I can remember ) Not sure about every other weekend but that was defently one of their "party" weekends. Good time to go if thats what your looking for.

Hrmm, I think I'd rather hit the ground going 100mph, then drown. But I suppose I'm up for either.

I'd definately be up for some skydiving if you're setting something up.

Not sure about the whitewater rafting...maybe it's the rushing cold water, the rocks or the thought of drowning that's putting me off.

I can't recommend Skydiving highly enough.

Think of going 160km/h in your car... and then think about doing it with nothing around you but air.

For those pulling numbers out of their a**,
terminal velocity is approximately 120miles/hour or 200km/hr.

actually it depends on the persons mass.

^^^
Well yes, and you would also have to know some other factors such as gravitational acceleration, drag coefficient, air density and the object's cross-sectional area.

I'm not a physisist, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night

I skipped my college physics, just went to the tests, and left one blank, and still got %86. Has to say something lol.

It's so much easier to pretend it's in a vaccum, no friction and whatnot. And gravitational acceleration is usually factored into the formula anyways.

I never been in one to be honest with you , but i love to go if i could manage some time.

Mehrdad

Contrary to what common sense would tell you, the mass of an object has no effect on it's acceleration due to gravity. Believe it or not, ALL objects with a mass will fall at the same speed. The only reason this seems to be contrary to everyday observation is that air resistance comes into play. If, however, air resistance is removed from the equation (such as in a vacuum) ANY object (regardless of size, shape, or mass) will fall at the same speed. This has been proven experimentally many times.

Incidently, just for kicks, there are some experiments you can do in the everyday world (as opposed to building a vacuum chamber). One of the easiest examples is of two similar shaped (but very different massed) objects. Say, for example, a bowling ball and a billiard ball. The air resistance for each will be very similar, but the masses will obviously not be. Drop each from the same height (of course, it's important that the BOTTOM of each ball is at the same height when dropped--otherwise one would have a shorter distance to fall). Believe it or not, the two balls will hit the ground at the same time.

One of my favourite visual examples I ever saw of this phenomenon is of this exact experiment one of the astronauts did on one of the Apollo lunar missions (Apollo 16 I believe). Don't remember if I saw it on some TV documentary or one of those videos on the subject. In any case, the astronaut took a hammer (the kind geologists use to crack rocks and such) in one hand and a large eagle's feather in the other (which was brought along for just this little demonstration). Held them at about chest height and then dropped them. The hammer fell much like it would fall on earth (although quite a bit slower since the moons gravity is about one sixth of earth's) but the feather fell straight down just like the hammer. Of course, they both hit the lunar dust at the same time. Quite nifty to see a feather fall straight down. Of course on earth it would flutter as it fell. It flutters because of the air. There's no air on the moon--thus no fluttering.

That'd be great if we were talking about Acceleration due to gravity, but we were talking about terminal velocity.

Well skydiving is out for now as being over the max height/weight limit for the gear of 220kg.

Since most of you guys would rather discuss your lack of knowledge about physics rather than a rafting trip I guess interest is low.

A call to a friend who is the operations manager for the Rude Native restaurants and she is in with enough people for at least one raft or maybe two. One is her Molson rep who will most likely sponsor the liquid entertainment and the majority of the rest will be Rude Native beauties and friends. So at this point you slackers are out of luck but any serious guys that want to get in should let me know asap. The raft date has been tentatively set for Friday July 14th to Sunday the 16th. I will start taking names, getting waivers and paperwork done for a booking.

sounds pretty fun.....is anyone else from the London area thinking of going??

Pricing $194 for a bring your own tent to about $240 inclusive for a 4 or 6 person chalet shared.

Jerry I would be intrested but just in the the
White Water rafting.. Camping aint my thing

If you can hook my city boy ass up that would be
cool also I get to meet some of you guys

LMK

Later

$242 all in booked for a saturday raft for up to 12 people in cabins. Need money before June 14th.