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Post-Start Crunch #95814
January 31, 2002 05:10 pm UTC
January 31, 2002 05:10 pm UTC
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Halifax, Nova Scotia
Scott McIntyre Offline OP
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My car has recently developed a problem while starting. I turn the key, the engine turns over & catches, and as the engine begins to run, I hear a crunching / clattering noise. The sound is very similar to engaging the starter while the engine is already running, only to a lesser degree. The sound only lasts for a second then goes away, never to return until the next time I start the car again.

A fellow DSMer suggested that the starter recoil thingie (technical term) might be stiff and is not pulling back quickly enough. Has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing, or know what is required to fix it?

Thanks.


Scott McIntyre
1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 Mitsu EVO X MR
Re: Post-Start Crunch #95815
January 31, 2002 06:45 pm UTC
January 31, 2002 06:45 pm UTC
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Bancroft, ON, Canada
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With the cold I have been experiencing something very similar on my 93 TSi. No idea what it is yet, this is also my first winter with this car and it acts different in the cold. To me it sounds as if it is on the drivers side not sure were though as it goes away before I can find it.


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Re: Post-Start Crunch #95816
January 31, 2002 11:16 pm UTC
January 31, 2002 11:16 pm UTC
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Prince Edward Island
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It sounds like your starter drive is not immedeiatly returning from the flywheel ring gear. Just sounds like there is somthing sticking in there. I'm just thinking out loud here but could it be the plunger in the solinoid, or the starter drive's helical gears itself sticking. There are helical gears inside the starter drive and has a one way clutch. When the starter drive turns one way the helical gears force the starter drive outward to the flywheel. When the engine starts the flywheel ring gear pushes back on the starter drive and the helical gears pull it back. Cold temperatures could, I suppose cause the plunger inside the solinoid to stick for a second.


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Re: Post-Start Crunch #95817
February 02, 2002 09:28 pm UTC
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Toronto
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Sometimes taking the starter out and spraying some penetrating fluid in it will help.


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Re: Post-Start Crunch #95818
February 02, 2002 11:01 pm UTC
February 02, 2002 11:01 pm UTC
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Halifax, Nova Scotia
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Is the starter very accessible on a 2G AWD, or do I need to remove a bunch of other components to get to it? (just wanna get a feel for it's complexity before I tackle the job myself)

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Scott McIntyre
1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 Mitsu EVO X MR
Re: Post-Start Crunch #95819
February 03, 2002 06:38 pm UTC
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Halifax, NS, Canada
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It's not easy to get at... but it's not impossible either. You have to remove the battery, and tray. There are two bolts that hold the starter in place... they are on the top of the bell housing, one of them has the starter ground strap attached to it. After you unbolt it it does require a bit of manipulating to get it out from underneath the intake manifold. Don't forget to disconnect the wires from the starter either. There are two, and if I remember correctly you have to get at them from underneath the car.
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