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dual intercoolers?? #15203 February 13, 2001 10:39 pm UTC February 13, 2001 10:39 pm UTC
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 473 ancaster, ontario M marty edwards OP Member
marty edwards OP Member M Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 473 ancaster, ontario	Has anyone ever tried dual intercoolers? What would happen if you ran a front mount, then the air travelled through your side mount, and THEN to the TB. What would happen? Would the air cool down any further? Or would something bad happen? 1991 TSI AWD - Big 16G @ 17 psi

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15204 February 13, 2001 11:30 pm UTC February 13, 2001 11:30 pm UTC
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,142 Thornhill J Jeff Feldsher Member
Jeff Feldsher Member J Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,142 Thornhill	If you put in a good front mount, why would you need the sidemount hanging around in there? So you can lose another psi of boost pressure? 90 TSi FWD BPU+

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15205 February 13, 2001 11:31 pm UTC February 13, 2001 11:31 pm UTC
Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,210 Niagara Falls Ontario Vince Amato Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Vince Amato Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,210 Niagara Falls Ontario	Well first I don't think you'de need the second IC if you have a front mount unless you're making searious power. And second every IC has some pressure loss so why I would you want to put 2 sources of pressure loss in the system? But what about moving the stock IC to the front of the car, for those of us that can't afford a fmic right now ? ------------------ 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD My Attempt at a website 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 13.2 @ 105mph SOLD http://1000q.dsm.org/

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15206 February 13, 2001 11:48 pm UTC February 13, 2001 11:48 pm UTC
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 473 ancaster, ontario M marty edwards OP Member
marty edwards OP Member M Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 473 ancaster, ontario	Ya Vince, that sounds good to me! If only I had the skills to do something like that on my own... 1991 TSI AWD - Big 16G @ 17 psi

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15207 February 14, 2001 01:58 am UTC February 14, 2001 01:58 am UTC
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,142 Thornhill J Jeff Feldsher Member
Jeff Feldsher Member J Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,142 Thornhill	Thank-you for seconding everything I said there Vince 90 TSi FWD BPU+

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15208 February 14, 2001 02:20 am UTC February 14, 2001 02:20 am UTC
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 121 Richmond, BC CANADA T Terry Fong Member
Terry Fong Member T Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 121 Richmond, BC CANADA	I think some of you may have seen Dejon Tool's twin intercooler setup. http://users.erinet.com/40666/DSM-2IC.htm

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15209 February 14, 2001 03:02 am UTC February 14, 2001 03:02 am UTC
Joined: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,631 Toronto, Ontario,Canada T Thomas Toth Insane Member
Thomas Toth Insane Member T Joined: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,631 Toronto, Ontario,Canada	Quote <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jeff Feldsher: If you put in a good front mount, why would you need the sidemount hanging around in there? So you can lose another psi of boost pressure? </font> Jeff you mean something like this??? hehe [img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=921847&a=11187454&p=22753032&Sequence=0[/img]

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15210 February 14, 2001 04:33 am UTC February 14, 2001 04:33 am UTC
Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,210 Niagara Falls Ontario Vince Amato Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Vince Amato Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,210 Niagara Falls Ontario	Quote <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jeff Feldsher: Thank-you for seconding everything I said there Vince </font> Actually Jeff if you look at the time you will see that you posted that while I was posting my response ------------------ 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD My Attempt at a website 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 13.2 @ 105mph SOLD http://1000q.dsm.org/

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15211 February 15, 2001 08:17 am UTC February 15, 2001 08:17 am UTC
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,142 Thornhill J Jeff Feldsher Member
Jeff Feldsher Member J Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,142 Thornhill	Wow thats some weird sh!t! 90 TSi FWD BPU+

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15212 February 15, 2001 12:49 pm UTC February 15, 2001 12:49 pm UTC
Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,210 Niagara Falls Ontario Vince Amato Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Vince Amato Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,210 Niagara Falls Ontario	Hey, You're a funny guy Jeff! ------------------ 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD My Attempt at a website 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 13.2 @ 105mph SOLD http://1000q.dsm.org/

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15213 February 15, 2001 03:30 pm UTC February 15, 2001 03:30 pm UTC
Joined: Aug 1999 Posts: 225 Toronto, ON, Canada A Allan Wong Member
Allan Wong Member A Joined: Aug 1999 Posts: 225 Toronto, ON, Canada	Two intercoolers typically aren't as good as one efficient FMIC. But there's nothing wrong with the idea. Some of the turbo FWD Mopar guys use'em (if you think DSM people are cheap, they are even cheaper). Umm, check out Gus/Tom Mahon's web site (13 second turbo fwd minivan and 12 second 4 door fwd turbo Acclaim) or Gary Donavon's Relentless web site (11 second FWD turbo Mopar). If you just want 12s, 13s and you don't wanna shell a grand for a custom FMIC, there's no harm in getting a $50 junkyard IC (IE a Thunderbird/RX7 whatever) and plumbing it in after your stock IC. Try it and see if ya like it. ------------------ Allan Mazda 626 1994 Buick GN turbo ported/clipped, FMIC, Quaife LSD, V6 2.8L, 315 fwp @ 12 PSI, 306 ft/lbs Allan Mazda 626 1994 Buick GN turbo ported/clipped, FMIC, Quaife LSD, V6 2.8L, 315 fwp @ 12 PSI, 306 ft/lbs

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15214 February 15, 2001 04:54 pm UTC February 15, 2001 04:54 pm UTC
Joined: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,631 Toronto, Ontario,Canada T Thomas Toth Insane Member
Thomas Toth Insane Member T Joined: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,631 Toronto, Ontario,Canada	Quote <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Allan Wong: Two intercoolers typically aren't as good as one efficient FMIC. But there's nothing wrong with the idea. Some of the turbo FWD Mopar guys use'em (if you think DSM people are cheap, they are even cheaper). Umm, check out Gus/Tom Mahon's web site (13 second turbo fwd minivan and 12 second 4 door fwd turbo Acclaim) or Gary Donavon's Relentless web site (11 second FWD turbo Mopar). If you just want 12s, 13s and you don't wanna shell a grand for a custom FMIC, there's no harm in getting a $50 junkyard IC (IE a Thunderbird/RX7 whatever) and plumbing it in after your stock IC. Try it and see if ya like it. </font> Holy crap where have u been??? Hows the car doing? Last i herd you had a run in with a rain storm and had few problems. Car running now anythig new added to the car?? later

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15215 February 15, 2001 05:46 pm UTC February 15, 2001 05:46 pm UTC
Joined: Jan 1999 Posts: 1,278 Grimsby, Ontario C Craig Watson Member
Craig Watson Member C Joined: Jan 1999 Posts: 1,278 Grimsby, Ontario	is there a full moon out or something? Thomas, please respect the bandwidth. You know we like to keep the information in these threads as relevant to the topic as possible. A little humour here or there is one thing.. but there is an extent in both taste and content... It's not necessary to quote absolutely everything, everytime you want to comment. You know there is nothing constructively said in your reply here. Is there some reason why you can't post your greeting in another relevant thread.. or how about email something like that privately to Allan? Is your email broken? It is our desire to keep all forums open and un-moderated. However, if this sort of behaviour continues, even if it's from just a few members we will be forced to moderate certain forums for content. Those few delinquent members would essentially spoil the freedom (and speed of posts and replies) for everyone else.... .. now do we want that? I'd rather it didn't have to be done, we have a good thing going on this UBB, lets not spoil it. thanx for understanding ------------------ 93 Talon Tsi AWD sealed for freshness www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Street/1125/ [This message has been edited by Craig Watson (edited February 15, 2001).] 93 Talon Tsi AWD my website

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15216 February 15, 2001 08:50 pm UTC February 15, 2001 08:50 pm UTC
Joined: Aug 1999 Posts: 225 Toronto, ON, Canada A Allan Wong Member
Allan Wong Member A Joined: Aug 1999 Posts: 225 Toronto, ON, Canada	Thomas: Check your email. Car is fine for winter driving now, see dyno #s. (315 fwhp, 306 ft/lbs) ------------------ Allan Mazda 626 1994 Buick GN turbo ported/clipped, FMIC, Quaife LSD, V6 2.8L, 315 fwp @ 12 PSI, 306 ft/lbs Allan Mazda 626 1994 Buick GN turbo ported/clipped, FMIC, Quaife LSD, V6 2.8L, 315 fwp @ 12 PSI, 306 ft/lbs

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15217 February 16, 2001 12:10 am UTC February 16, 2001 12:10 am UTC
Joined: Sep 1998 Posts: 7,944 Halifax, NS Troy Jollimore Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Troy Jollimore Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Sep 1998 Posts: 7,944 Halifax, NS	Heh. You're picking on Tommy again... (: I wonder why people bother with quotes on here as well. It's too easy to just scroll back to what was posted beforehand...

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15218 February 16, 2001 02:07 am UTC February 16, 2001 02:07 am UTC
Joined: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,631 Toronto, Ontario,Canada T Thomas Toth Insane Member
Thomas Toth Insane Member T Joined: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,631 Toronto, Ontario,Canada	Must have a damn target painted on me or something. I mean whats the big deal?? Quoting is done on every other board and its no big deal. It makes it easier on people. Why is it only on this bord that every little thing bothers people? Everything has to be perfect and if someone does something small wrong they get ripped on, or at least i do. Anwyay thank god for certain boards where you can go and be a dumb ass and its all kool.

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15219 February 16, 2001 12:55 pm UTC February 16, 2001 12:55 pm UTC
Joined: Sep 1998 Posts: 7,944 Halifax, NS Troy Jollimore Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Troy Jollimore Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Sep 1998 Posts: 7,944 Halifax, NS	Thank God I stay the Hell away from those boards... (: Most of those sites have some sort of sponsorship. I don't think we do, and it's nice to keep the bandwidth clean. Besides, those of us that are a bit more mature, and usually experienced, just pack up and leave when a bunch of silly teens come waltzing around and talking 'sh!t' all over the place. That's what's kept the Talon Digest more or less respectable over the years, Todd filters out all the trash.

Re: dual intercoolers?? #15220 February 16, 2001 03:52 pm UTC February 16, 2001 03:52 pm UTC
Joined: Feb 1998 Posts: 4,233 Binbrook, Ontario Andrew Bienhaus Facist Web Overlord GOB
Andrew Bienhaus Facist Web Overlord GOB Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Feb 1998 Posts: 4,233 Binbrook, Ontario	...and that Troy, is exactly the same sort of thing we're trying to accomplish and prevent here. You summarized it very nicely. "Anwyay thank god for certain boards where you can go and be a dumb ass and its all kool." We'll miss you Thomas, but all the best in the future. This isn't one of them. ------------------ Andrew Bienhaus 1997 Eagle Talon TSi AWD - Shhhhh... The Mongoose is Hibernating... Andrew Bienhaus Bring on the Cobras... she's hungry for snakemeat.

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