Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Tyler Cohen]
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September 03, 2007 04:11 pm UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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Hello Sue. Long time since we heard from you.
I would think that your new set up either needs some Shims Between the Brake Pads and the Piston(s) or some of the Brake Quiet goo, basicly something to reduce the Brake Pads vibrations.
I wish that I could help but I'm very busy these days. Any good mechanic or DSMer could help.
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Sue Pottinger]
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September 08, 2007 12:52 pm UTC
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Michael Certain
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Tried shimming and that didn't help. Any other suggestions? Other than changing brand new rotors I'm not sure what else to do.
Help please.... Hopefully this won't be "too obvious". But are you simply running a squeaky setup? Case In Point: I run 4 piston Wilwood fronts, running on larger Wilwood 13" brakes. If I use a pad that's more aggressive (read: for racing), there's squeal regardless of what I do at 'slow down' speeds (small pushes of the pedal). There's just no way to avoid it, without getting a softer pad. You can reduce it by hard seating of the pads, but even that can't help if you're using a hard racing-type compound. A good shop (like Marken Performance of KW) can tell you what level of pad will produce what level of brake dust and noise.
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Sue Pottinger]
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September 13, 2007 02:59 pm UTC
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Hi Michael,
I'm using stock Porsche pads which aren't that agressive. I have used more agressive pads on the stock setup which were noisy. This noise is multiplied by 100. Sounds like an exaggeration and I wish it was. You can hear me breaking a block away. I'm going to try a new set of rotors and hope it will cure the problem. If it doesn't work do you think the shop you mentioned would be willing to take a look at the set up?
How are your brakes by the way? Sounds like an impressive set up.
Thanks
Sue So you have tried the difference. I just didn't want to leave the obvious unasked. They work well. I believe Peacock is also running the 4-piston Wilwoods, and once you go with that, you can never go back I'm sure the Porsche are the same way. They can grind you to a chest-against-seatbelt hurting stop. I have a friend with a GT2, I'll ask him if he's had the problem, or how they fix brake squeal.
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Michael Certain]
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September 13, 2007 07:21 pm UTC
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What about just getting the rotors turned on a lathe, take off any ridges or glazing.
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Adam Grenon]
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September 13, 2007 07:22 pm UTC
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oops nevermind I see you tried new rotors..
Did you try applying the brake pad goop? and/or lubricating the sliders? Vibrations are what causes the squealing as far as I know.
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Sue Pottinger]
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September 14, 2007 02:38 am UTC
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Mmmm, noise comes back after the Pads get broken in... Very obscur.
I wish that a good T.O. DSM'er would step in to hav a look at it for ya.
Check your pm.
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Sue Pottinger]
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September 14, 2007 10:25 pm UTC
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are there slots or cross drills in the rotors?
If the pads are meant for slotted or drilled rotors and the rotors are not then you could be getting a build up of brake dust in there.
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Sue Pottinger]
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September 16, 2007 11:17 pm UTC
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I have heard that cross drilling can lead to cracking, and if you are having vibration problems, that can only make it worse. The other recommendation I would then make is to have them "dimpled" but not drilled through....
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Ziggy Dietrich]
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September 17, 2007 01:54 am UTC
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Drilling can lead to cracking. I have changed rotors that were drilled and when they came off the car had a whole heap of spider cracks running through them. That's why I don't bother with it now, that and the fact that it costs more. Dimpling... hadn't thought of that. At this point though I'll do almost anything in order to eliminate the brake noise. The problem is I don't know what is causing it. If it means I have to use drilled rotors and change them more often then so be it. Might be a reason for me to get my rotors from you
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Sue Pottinger]
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September 18, 2007 12:27 pm UTC
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Thats a Nick Boers brake package is it not? Maybe he can give you a suggestion.
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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October 09, 2007 10:08 am UTC
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I know Sue is using centreing rings on the rotors, as I made them. Having said that, I made them to the sizes I was given. Sue, can you ask your mechanc how they fit. I think Mike is suggesting your rotors might be "orbiting" indicating the spacer rings are too "loose". Can you ask your mechanic about this? Or did he possibly even forget to install the rings??
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Re: Help Brakes squeeling to wake the dead
[Re: Mike Degli Angeli]
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October 10, 2007 12:19 pm UTC
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I know I was given a set of sizes for the 300M rotors, and they were different than the cobra rotors....hope they are not the problem.
I think sue is using Nick's brackets, and I believe he has the same ones on his own car, so I don't seem them being the issue..
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