Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Usman Majeed]
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May 18, 2008 01:51 am UTC
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Jaime Loo
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General Exclaim UHP on the Talon, got them along with rims years ago from Fai Lee. They are -performance- all season (high-speed rated). Good in all-season, good grip at high speed (don't ask me how i know), and even some light snow (as many rated, and tried it myself, but it's no winter tire, so be careful). Lots of daily driving, and still good thread left. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Exclaim+UHPThe other one i would try, but i haven't yet, is GoodYear's Tripletred tires. The are -standard- all season. I'd be putting this on my other vehicles. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Assurance+TripleTred
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Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Jaime Loo]
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May 18, 2008 05:35 am UTC
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Nigel Smith
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Whatever the cheapest crap Tire World in brampton sells.
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Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Troy Jollimore]
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May 18, 2008 04:12 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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I'll X3 that. Walmart has decent tires for your Taurus.
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Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Ryan Laliberte]
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May 18, 2008 04:33 pm UTC
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Tim Hunt
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Either that or contact Fai Lee or Rod Nieborowski our local DSM board tire guys, I have dealt with both, most recently Rod, in getting tires for my Rodeo last fall, I was in Guelph, but in contacting him made it worth my while to travel down to Burlington. In the end he saved me almost $100 over every other tire shop I had contacted for my BF Goodrich AT/KO's. Got down to the shop, tires were waiting, bay was clear, and I was on my way in probably less than 1-1 1/2 hr.
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Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Usman Majeed]
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May 20, 2008 04:02 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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Well like I've said to others, you'll have to define what 'economical' means to you. When someone asks me for an 'economical' tire, I tend to think of $80ea or less.
But it sounds like you've got your mind made up already, so why did you even ask? I've run $84 tires (Dean Quasar) on my Talon, and even Auto-Xed them... They held up well and lasted a LONG time. They didn't grip as well as the BF/G tires I had that cost 3x as much, but it's not like they'd kill you if you had to make an emergency maneuver. I've also run $50 tires (Talon 2000) on a Golf and Sonata. Heck, these tires were rated 'B' for Temperature and Traction (the worst you can get) but I drove rather quickly through bad snowstorms with them...
If you want long life, try to get a tire with a UTQG rating of over 500. Used to be those tires handled like rocks (Michelin X-1) but, like the Primacy, they've got them so they handle and sound alright, too.
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Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Usman Majeed]
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May 21, 2008 01:52 am UTC
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Paul Bratina
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I think a source of confusion to some people who are trying to offer advice is what's the point behind the "last a long time" idea. Presumably the idea is to save money, correct? The idea being that if a tire lasts a long time, there's no need to buy another set for a long time, and therefore it should save money, right? But that's not necessarily true. If for example, you had a set that lasted 200,000 klicks and cost $200 per, but another set that lasted 100,000 klicks but cost only $75 per, even buying two sets of the cheapies will still cost you less for the same distance, no?
I think if you do the math, you'll find your best bet is to find a reasonably long laster for as little as possible.
Of course, if the reasoning behind the "long last" thing is that you have some repulsion to changing tires, then the above advice is invalid.
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Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Paul Bratina]
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May 22, 2008 05:18 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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That's also why I mention the Taurus as being a factor. It's not known as a sharp-handling car, and that's where the big confusion in buying decisions come from. For my Talon, and now my Passat, the pain comes from wanting a tire that performs like a race tire dry AND wet, rides like a pillow, lasts forever, AND only costs $50 a tire. Even considering I'll be setting my Passat up for handling, I was shopping Z-rated performance rubber for my Talon. Anything H to V-rated will be fine for the Passat. If I owned a car like an Accord or Taurus as a DD'er only I wouldn't put as much of an onus on high-speed performance. (Heck, did you see how I got ripped for saying I can drive fast in that other thread? ) I didn't mean to take your head off, but it rubs me sometimes when someone says, "I need to save money," and when you tell them what the best buy is they say, "That's nice, but I still want these expensive ones..." Like cars these days, even the bad ones are pretty good compared to what we had a decade or more ago. If you're sticking with Michelins, I've heard good things about the Pilot Exaltos (might be pricey) and was definitely impressed with the Energy MXV4+ that were on my Passat. So any of the MXV4 series will do the trick. I love Michelin and Bridgestone. I just can never seem to be able to afford the ones I want when I go to buy them.
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Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Usman Majeed]
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May 23, 2008 08:45 pm UTC
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Reza Mirza
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I got my General Exclaim UHP's for $400 installed and balanced, 215/45 ZR17. Excellent tread wear and good wet traction. For the price they are much better and cheaper than the traction T/A's. Check em out on tire rack, they have a better review than all other tires in its class. I have been beating on them for over 2 years now, and they are about 50% done now. They also take the DSM low 11's down the track, possibly high 10's soon Also a very soft sidewall which is good for drag racing, and they are about 2-3 lbs lighter than all other tires in the same size. Overall an excellent cheap tire, just what you want for you DD, as you already have snow tires.
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Re: Tire Choice for DD
[Re: Reza Mirza]
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May 23, 2008 09:23 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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BF/G tires are a different 'feel' than the Michelins. Marketed more to the 'average Joe' American as opposed to the 'high end' Michelins with a world market. Nothing wrong with the Traction T/As. The tires I bought for our Vibe are UniRoyal TigerPaw Touring. 205/55R16 cost ~$125ea during CDN Tire's buy one get the second for 1/2 price sale. Impressive tire. Handles well, great in the rain, and doesn't suck in the snow. Good wear rating means they should last awhile as well. I don't have the privilege of having a CostCo membership.
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