I don't think I'd be the only one against having
my tax dollars directed to supporting your "cause". Good luck with the ticket but don't make more enemies than friends.

yeah get the oem one and take some pictures, present it in court and i think your good to go, that's exactly what the officer said for my ticket,

but its been 5 months no court date yet , I got mine in the Kipling and Rexdale area, so i guess Toronto is busy or something

That's crazy, that long? frack, it's a $110 ticket

yeah I didn't pay or anything yet, and after that ticket I got pulled over many times but the ticket didn't show up in their computers when they checked my driving history

Question though, if I get pulled over again for an exhaust ticket, do I have an X amount of days to "switch over my exhaust"?

Highly, Highly doubt it... Just play it low key. If you see a police behind you, pull into a plaza, and walk into a store, its easier. Lol..

I got my exhaust tested today, it's below the 83db federal limit at both idle and at cruising rpms. lol

It takes 6 months to get the court date in the mail, and then it's for another 6 months in advance. Total time = 12 months.

That's pretty ridiculous.

no there is no number of days lol, they will give you another ticket i guess, get a fake bill of sale made that you have ordered the exhaust, and then if you get pulled over be like i didnt have time to install it yet but i have the exhaust at home, ive been doing that for a while now

The thing is, I wont get harassed again, and I'm keeping my decibel reading from the shop as well as a print out showing the federal DB limit in my car, so if I get pulled over again for it, I will show them that it's not. Maybe on hard accel it cane be, but they would have to pull over everything from motor cycles to city buses.

improper muffler is no points .. i dunno wtf your stressing about.

its a real easy ticket to beat .. and even if you loose you only pay $130

http://www.ticketcombat.com/

It's not the points, it's the principle. I don't like getting fucked around by some bitch ass cop

I just watched the video - it does seem kinda loud with all that popping, so I can see why you were singled out.
It's still a bullshit ticket.
I'm staying out of Durham

The camera on my phone is really really bad it seems. I will make one with my actual cam. It was actually decibel tested at less than 10db the limit. Was like 75 at cruising rpms and 69 at idle.

And when a Harley DAvidson and a 79 Camaro with straight pipes drives past us and he's still following me and doesn't go after them. I got singled out because it's a brightish blue rhd car with a 23 year old guy driving it

I hate to be an ass, but when you buy a jap car your asking for trouble
Weather its a civic that closely resembles the millennium falcon or the nicest RHD car YOU ARE GOING TO GET HARASSED!
Your down to 2 options IMHO
Sacrifice a bit of performance and run stock exhaust
Or
Fracking suck it up, its a modified car
Im sick of hearing cop stories

Oh I'm sucking it up and going to court, then filing a complaint.

It's profiling what they are doing and it's against the law. Not to mention it's harassment for him to follow me constantly for 20 minutes. Either pull me over, or frack off.

And you STILL think you have a shot in hell of getting JUSTICE? This is ONTARIO...Grease up and bend over..you HAVE NO RIGHTS!!
To believe otherwise is just plain stupid.
If you DO file the complaint, I am going to enjoy reading about how your life will be HELL every day from then on, and I will be laughing my head off about it.

I am sorry, I have never even met you, but if you file that complaint, please get neutered also...you would have proven yourself to be too stupid to be allowed to breed..

Hilarious...."I am filing a complaint because what the cops are doing (profiling and harrassment) is against the law"....and this complaint is against who? the cops? and this complaint is filed with who?.....the cops? and investigated by who?.....the cops? Ya, you will win, go for it...

Doesn't matter if I will win Ziggy. I wont just bend over and take it up the ass like everyone else does. Everyone else doing it is why we have our system the way it is. Pleading guilty was actually something bribed to you by the court system back in the day, and that is not right.

I dunno about you Ziggy, but I would rather breed a kid with my genes that wont take this sh!t, that will stand up for our civilian rights, rather than breed with your genes where they just give up and get buttfucked over everything. The reason why Ontario is like this is because of people who think and act like you.

If I had done something wrong, had a cut out on my exhaust, been speeding, changing lanes with no blinker, while listening to frack the Police by NWA, then I would rightfully accept me being pulled over, and ticketed. I think most of the cops these days (around here), don't care about a muffler, but there's the odd cop, on a bad day who pulls over anyone with an import that isn't completely stock. And if I have a completely legal exhaust system, setup and sound, so as far as I'm concerned, he can go frack himself. Complaint will be getting filed.

Not trying to be a dick or anything, just a legit question I think. Brandon, you do realize that there is such a violation of the HTA affectionately called an "Improper Muffler" charge which has nothing to do with a dB noise reading, right? I think Jeff Mitchell referred to it very eary in this thread.

I ask only because you seem to be constantly referring to your dB readings being under some specific limit. For the purposes of an "Improper Muffler" charge, the dB reading (or whether it was taken, etc) is irrelevant. As I say, Jeff references the relevant lines in the HTA so you can check that and confirm for yourself.

The reason I keep referring to it is because that is why the cop said he pulled me over. And I quote "your muffler is a little too loud". That's what he said after he asked me if I knew why he pulled me over.

Now if he pulled me over and said my "muffler is a little too loud", but gave me the wrong ticket, then this should have no problem getting thrown out of court.

Brandon, I USED to be like you...but years of being the ONLY one fighting has taught me how futile it is. My head hurts constantly from all the times I beat it against a wall. I am just trying to save you some pain. No-one else will join your fight. They will all encourage you, but you will STILL be the only one fighting, and they will STILL bend you over..just not willingly. Go ahead and carry the torch for a while, but you have been warned...you WILL pay dearly for it.

I completely agree Ziggy. But at least if I put in this complaint, it'll be something that I know is right. Whether it's a "smart" move or not.

So here's a question for you Brandon.

Was the cop in any way rude, disrespectful, unprofessional or arrogant in any way shape or form?

Did he belittle you, minimise you or blatantly disrespected you because you drive an "import" car, a RHD or any other reason why you were pulled over?

You say they are "profiling" because you drive a "modified car" that's RHD (A nice car mind you but that's beside the point). Guess what? Every person who gets pulled over for an "Improper Muffler" is someone driving a "modified car". You don't see soccer moms being pulled over for improper muffler do you? But, bet you dollars to donughts, if you bought a minivan and slapped a fart can on it, you're going to be noticed.

It's a risk you take. Taylor said it best. Either you suck it up, pay the fine and go on about life, or you put a stock exhaust back on the fuckin thing. Do you think DRP is going to be on the lookout for "A blue RHD MR-2 that has an exhaust system... watch out y'all!!! He's got the debil in his bloodz!!"

No.

You know WHY people on here like Strelecki, Giz, Myself, and a few others run a Magnaflow dual-tipped stock appearing muffler? To keep below the radar. Does it sacrifice performance? Sure! A whole whopping 2 hp. Not even enough to notice.

Why is the law there? Why shouldn't we be able to change our exhaust systems and run whatever kind of muffler we want. Hell, we drive turbo cars, why even run an exhaust system? Phuck it, let's put a 4" pipe out the side of the bumper, we don't need no stinkin back pressure!

Yeah, and the next time some ricer kid comes flying by you with that obnoxious "BRRRAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP *pop* *pop* *pop* " on the back of their civic, or some dude with 4 10" subs blasting Slayer through your neighbourhood at 2AM, you can be the judge on that one.

You get pissed at the bikers? You've got your window down and some dude on a Harley rips by you doing a buck five, and you cringe at the sound of the exhaust. Aha! The shoe is on the other foot. You have to see it from the other side. Personally, I hate it when some dude with his hot ass girlfriend (Because you know these guys in the cavy's usually have a hot ass girlfriend next to then) rips by me on the streets with his foot to the floor, or whatever, I just want to go over there and shove a potato into his exhaust and watch what happens!

The law always wins Brandon. Suck it up and deal with it. Put something on it that's a little quieter or go back to stock. Either way, there isn't anything you can do. Should it have come to Canada like that? Maybe, maybe not. Fact is it did, and some Police officer (and I know first hand there's a LOT that goes into choosing them) believes your exhaust is a nuisance to the general public (it is kinda loud).

Fight it, definitely, save you some cash! But you drive a rare, modified, RHD, Electric Blue sports car, and you're young. It's the same thing as running naked through a shopping mall, you're going to be noticed, and you bought it so you could be.

I'm sure you've been noticed by more than just cops, and in a good way. However, you've been noticed by police, deal with it.

/rant

P.S: Ziggy........... *tsk* *tsk* *tsk*

I don't get pissed at the bikers, I don't care what exhaust noise your car puts out, and I don't care how loud someone elses exhaust is. And I actually love the noise a Harley or Muscle car puts out. But when a Harley and a Muscle car both pass me with the cop following me and he stays on my ass, that's where it's profiling and harassment. My dad's Harley is super loud, sets off alarms on cars that he passes if he opens the choke enough. The thing is LOUD. He has had it like that for the last 5 years, and not one single ticket. That is bullshit, and that should not be allowed. He rides on the same streets as me when he comes home from work. And the fact is that if my dad was right beside a police officer, he wouldn't get pulled over. And that is not right in the least.

So, I wont change my 3" turbo back exhaust back to stock, because I shouldn't have to change a proper working exhaust system that isn't loud as shown by my decibel test. Granted on the camera phone video it sounds loud just because it distorts the mic. It doesn't south anything like a regular exhaust because it's so short and hollow.

I dunno man, I think what they do is wrong, and if filing a complaint is all I can do about it, then frack it, I will file a complaint.

Although, when I get my Berk exhaust, it will be less noticeable, since it's still dual pipes, just thicker out lets, and will be less of an attention grabber

I got a ticket for excessive noise when I was running a Magnaflow Single tip muffler (big and chrome).
Got followed all the time by the police, or they tried to follow or turn around to follow me etc.

I paid the ticket and got fed up so I stuck the stock muffler (TSI) on, it's still loud, but I don't get looked at at all now.

It's the style that attracts them more than the noise I think.

Meh, frack em

Also, the reason I bought the car is not to get noticed, but because buying jdm means you get rust free, low km car that costs half the price of buying one in the same condition up here

Also, the MR2 is one of the best cars ever made (imo). 3S-GTE motor is bullet proof, and 50/50 weight distribution is a huge seller, not to mention good gas mileage and cheap to fill!

$40 to fill from the idiot light, and 450km per tank

Yea yeah, you were saying that about the 4G63 too.......

I still say that about the 4G63, love DSMs to death.