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1G AWD - Rear upper control arms #351011
April 20, 2011 08:12 am UTC
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Has anyone made there own using the steel tube and tie rods like these?

http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=1454

I know that parts are available from AFCO, but not sure if there are any canadian suppliers of similar stuff?

Also looking for a parts list if anyone has one to build these.


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #351014
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I've since deleted the link :-(, but when I was looking at doing this I found a parts list for AFCO part #s on www.dsmtuners.com .

In the end, I went the easy route, and bought these: http://www.maximalperformance.com/store/suspension/dsm-awd-adjustable-control-arms/prod_115.html

Either way you do it, you'll be happy with the end result!


Now, I'll have all kinds of time to talk about DSMs, because I won't be busy fixing mine!
Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Steve Kinnaird] #351027
April 20, 2011 01:08 pm UTC
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I'm looking to build lower also with this method. Jst need to come up with a sway bar mount solution.



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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Mike Degli Angeli] #356537
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steve, did you get both left and right arms for $155 or is it each?


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: John Hartman] #356540
July 01, 2011 08:35 pm UTC
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That was for the pair.


Now, I'll have all kinds of time to talk about DSMs, because I won't be busy fixing mine!
Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Steve Kinnaird] #363185
October 13, 2011 02:27 am UTC
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The other way is to buy another stock set used and cut them in half but one half a bit longer and weld them back together so that overall lenght is longer to fix camber on lowered car. Add a small brace to bridge the weld and box it up with some flat stock. Then use poly bushings. This is what I have on my 1G and I road raced it for years.


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #363206
October 13, 2011 10:24 am UTC
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I found some at princess auto, Meant for tracktors but same thing idea. TSC has them too. only thing is the lowers would have to have one end cut off and a ball joint welded to the threads. But then you could use the scrap cut off pivit hole as a toe replacment.
http://www.princessauto.com/all-seasons/outdoor/acreage/tractor/8216038-16-top-link


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #363266
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I got the ones from maximal performance, look like high quality pieces. I don't know if I would trust that crap from princess auto on my car.


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #363269
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Ya but its just a control arm, not a noname turbocharger.


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Holset hx35
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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #363271
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Anything to do with suspension I want good stuff. I don't want a wheel coming off while in a corner. I've seen cheap tie rods break many times, etc.


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1991 - Talon Tsi AWD FP HTA 71
1992 - Talon Tsi AWD on hold
Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #363272
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well what ever to each there own.. but its just a treaded hardened steel rod and some end links nomatter what way you look at it, or how much money you want to trow at it. Just weld on a GOOD tierod then.


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272 hks cams.
Holset hx35
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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #363377
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+1 on the Maximal Performance kit. Had it for about a year and not a single problem. Adjustment is also very smooth!


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Jay Stacey] #364372
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Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
well what ever to each there own.. but its just a treaded hardened steel rod and some end links nomatter what way you look at it, or how much money you want to trow at it. Just weld on a GOOD tierod then.


But some companys use better metals that can handle more stress and abuse.

Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #364377
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Plus what good is a good tie rod if the cheap steel around it isn't going to hold it in place if you hit a pothole. I'd rather keep my wheel in the straight up and down position if I can help it.


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #364379
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True, and I consider that when im buying turbochargers and coil springs. but I garontee that the material used on heavy duty tractor equipment is stronger then the rusty stock uppers we have on the cars now. And we dont see them having stress and abuse issues,


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Holset hx35
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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #364380
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I'll check it out next time I am at Princess just to do a self comparison.


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Jay Stacey] #364381
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Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
True, and I consider that when im buying turbochargers and coil springs. but I garontee that the material used on heavy duty tractor equipment is stronger then the rusty stock uppers we have on the cars now. And we dont see them having stress and abuse issues,



it's being sold at princess auto.. cheap quality stuff for the must part.. We bought a winch rated for 6000 lbs and a quad not even sunk burnt it all up.. then we snapped the 2000 pound tow strap when winching up the boat.

I'll pay the extra 80$ for something that has someone stand behind more then "would you like store credit?"

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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #364382
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Ya Ive bougt cheap crap at princess auto too, and some things ive bought from there that saved me a lot of money and work great! The bars I plan on buying are actually from TSC, Planning to install them in the spring, Will take pics


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #364397
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I will not get on or under anything that I buy from Princess Auto smile


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Rob Strelecki] #364398
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I use these real control arms:
https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17354&cat=0&page=1

I just got my alignment done on my 1g few days ago. A touch of negative camber in the front and, +0.05 camber in the rear on each side wink I love it.


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Re: 1G AWD - Rear upper control arms [Re: Adam Grenon] #364400
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I agree that a lot of the princess auto stuff is cheap chinese made stuff.

I bought my 12 tonne press from there when it was on sale for around $100. Its one of the best investments I have made though. I have done many gearsets, front and rear wheel bearings, ball joints, bushings etc etc with it since. It was well worth the money IMO, and has more than paid for itself smile


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