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Starter change out #359604
August 21, 2011 03:37 pm UTC
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Just curious how big of a job it is to change the starter on a 2G? What is the best way to get at it...from the top or the bottom. I dont have alot of free time right now but it needs to be changed. What do shops usually charge?


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Blayne Byrne] #359605
August 21, 2011 03:46 pm UTC
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Assuming its the same as a 1g, cant see it being much different.. 1/2 hour max


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Blayne Byrne] #359606
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Just found some sights that explain it. I was just worried that there would be no room at all. Actually looks fairly easy!


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Blayne Byrne] #359609
August 21, 2011 05:55 pm UTC
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It's 2 bolts(14mm), one clip for the starter solenoid and one nut for the positive lead(12mm).

Just grab it from the top. I usually kind of lay down on the engine. Have all your tools at the bottom the windshield. Make sure when you put it back in the starter ground wire gets reinstalled.


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Tyler Minshall] #359610
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It is a very easy job to do. Just as Tyler said, 2x 14mm. When i pull my starter out, I take the battery out, and usually the top little bit of intercooler pipes. It's simple enough. Then just go at it from that direction.

Re: Starter change out [Re: EK] #359613
August 21, 2011 06:13 pm UTC
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Im about to tackle the same job... Do you know if a starter from a 7bolt 1g awd will fit my 2g awd?


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Tim Sciocchetti] #359614
August 21, 2011 06:31 pm UTC
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According to the RTM site the 90-96 starters are the same. 97-99 are different. I think they are also the same shape tho. The newer ones are a stronger motor i believe thats why it's a different part number. I am pretty sure the only differences are FWD/AWD & 5Speed/AUTO.


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Tyler Minshall] #359616
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Thanks man


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Tim Sciocchetti] #359647
August 22, 2011 03:15 pm UTC
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Awesome, thanks guys!!


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Blayne Byrne] #359680
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You dont own a talon anymore, make the other guy do it?

Re: Starter change out [Re: Ian Burnside] #359689
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Originally Posted by Ian Burnside
You dont own a talon anymore, make the other guy do it?


Blayne doesn't own a talon anymore or am I missing something?


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Tyler Minshall] #359814
August 24, 2011 01:51 am UTC
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FWD/AWD 5 speed are the same, whether they have different part numbers are not, its the bell housing on the trans that is different. I swapped my car to awd and reused the FWD starter, even though I was told by several people that they were different and it would not work ponder


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Jason Drew] #359836
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Just to add to the above post, it's my understanding that the starters are all interchangable for any DSM even though the part no's may be different. The bellhousing DO differ for different models and the starter plates DO differ but pretty much any starter can be used on any model. I heard somewhere that with some oddball combinations (tranny, engine, starter) there can sometimes be interference issues with the body of the starter/solenoid.

Re: Starter change out [Re: Paul Bratina] #359838
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Yeah I think they are all interchangeable too, except maybe auto? Or maybe nobody tried it / shared the info.


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Rob Strelecki] #359842
August 24, 2011 04:07 pm UTC
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Auto's do not work I know from experience.


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #359851
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Auto's do not work I know from experience.
Which way? Auto starter with M/T tranny or M/T starter with an auto?

Re: Starter change out [Re: Paul Bratina] #359852
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auto starter in a MT tranny.
The part that inserts into the bellhousing is shorter on the auto starter and the shaft does not reach far enough to engage the flywheel.

I am unsure if the longer MT one will work with the auto one. If it does, I'm sure it is not contacting the torque converter teeth like it should be.


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #359854
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starter engages the flexplate ring gear, not the torque converter...

Re: Starter change out [Re: Robert Clare] #359860
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Got it changed out. Took about an hour. I undid the mount bolts and then undid the power wire once I had it out near the battery. Took the battery and intake pipe off. That made it alot easier. The job went a lot better than I thought it was going to.


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Blayne Byrne] #359871
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It's even easier if you've done a battery relocation laugh


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Re: Starter change out [Re: Jason Drew] #359920
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Originally Posted by Jason Drew
It's even easier if you've done a battery relocation laugh


Ya for sure. Well, did the starter in the Talon, and now as my luck would have it the starter in my 97 Audi A4 just took a dump. This will be harder to change than the Talon....not looking forward to it!


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