Looking for a place to have a fake etest done for me .
PM if you can help .

Thanks

How do you know it won't pass???

If your car is AWD there is a good chance it will pass.

Yeah they only do an idle test and rev' up to I THINK it was 2K RPMS.

I just had the e-test done on mine last week. Failed the first test, on the re-test I made sure the CAT was Preconditioned. These CATS have to get hot before they begin to work. Even with just a 2 speed idle test. I Passed the second test with flying colors. Also make sure you have no cel's for fuel trim (o2 sensors) or fuel pressure. If you dont have a CAT then yes you'll need to find someone that will pass it/run a different vehicle with your info.

I'm driving FWD, no emission hardware under the hood and no cat installed. Don't think i'll pass e-test no matter what I do. LOL

Why not install a cat for the test?

Yeah it should pass with just a CAT if we can't find you someone.

I found a test facility that ran my car as a hot rod. it doubled the limits. then I passed

check in the "help me" topic, the first thread is "etest's merged"..then the last page.

I failed hydrocarbons at idle by over 11 times the limit, even with a cat. For people like me, fakes are necessary

11X? woah...you're BEYOND HOT ROD HAHAHAHA

You failed 11 times over the limit and posting on a public forum about getting an illigal e-test???

Now that is a big time "FAIL"...

Ghislain

You should move to Saskatchewan, where apperantly you can run a strieght pipe out your fender. Must be hard to breath there.

I never said I got an illegal e-test now did I? I failed the first e-test ever after putting the car together by that much. Now whose to say I didn't fix my issues and passed the second, third, fourth, etc. time?

I just mentioned "for people like me" as in, people that fail so hard for the first time, but don't feel like fixing the problem. As you can see, I fixed mine.

I have a friend that had DSM fail 3 or 4 times before it passed. I also have a friend that couldn't get his Accord to pass until the 4th or 5th. I legally passed on my third test.

Edit: Jay, I don't need to, car runs clean now

I meant the op


Giz confused the convosation A little i think.

You know you only have to spend $450 for a conditional pass so if you needed to replace the cat you would get one without replacing the cat cause for sure they are worth more then 450 although you can only get a conditional pass once every 4 years.

I would love to see your numbers Steve. To see what is actually causing your failure.

The first gen of OBDII was pretty simple very basic. Todays OBDII if your engine light isn't on you will pass for sure.

Ya; I might of misread but defenately think that a public forum is not the best place to ask where a $$$ e-test can be performed.

Maybe I should of dirrect my reply to the OP...

Ghislain

run your car as a hot rod. That is what i had to do.

Q: What about specialty vehicles?

A: The SOP (Standard Operating Procedures) for Ontario's Drive Clean Program has a section covering specialty vehicles which include kit car, rebuilt car, hot rod car (original engine replaced), and grey market vehicles. This section outlines the rules and procedures for the DCF to follow.



Tell them your motor is bored out and they can run it as a hot rod. Then all the specs are raised. Cars with carbs pass

Not sure if you're implying that cats cost more than $450 or not. If so:
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And it's not like that's a once in a lifetime deal either. Lots of examples of cats in the $100 range.

Didn't want to get into much detail about where to get a fake etest but it went into a big discussion lol. Just wanted a simple pm if you can help me out.

BTW I have the Greddy EVO2 Exhaust sytem installed (No Cat)

Thanks

We have 2 tracks here in quinte west.. Im pretty sure the Armdrop in Picton wont let you run without a cat, Car has to be street legal.

I was thinking about making a entire bolt on exaust with a cat and one with out, since its all one piece and easy to remove.

Paul i hate to tell but any cat under $100 probably wouldn't help you pass any E-test a cat is worth $100 in scrap metal( due to the precious metals inside that actually due the work). I have installed many cats that people brought in to replace there OEM one that sometimes made emission results worst then the first time. And most cheap cats on newer OBDII systems will be setting P0420 codes all the time.

If you go to a repair shop and have your vehicle diagnosed and they say it needs a cat. Most likely they are not going to be able to repair it for under $450. so then get you a conditional pass. So it might cost you $100 which is what you spend on 4 e-test if your didn't pass 4 times.

Ive never put any cat on any car other then the high flow cat from canadian tire for $90. And never had one fail.. course Ive never replaced a cat on a vehicle made in the last 10 years.

Most Cats are murdered by improperly tuned engine they certain feed gases from the engine to work properly if those aren't correct it can cause the cat to overheat and melt the honey comb inside.

Pre-conditioning the cat before an etest helps wonders to get it up to operating temp. Since the cat on a 1g are so far from the mani they seem not to heat up quick enough with just the warm up the test facility does. And if it AWD it just gets a 2 speed idle test and with the load on the engine they never seem Light off the cat.

I destroyed a perfectly good Cat a few years ago, thing was about 4/5 years old. Selected Anti-Lag for an event. I remember Paul Sitarski saying: "Hey Giz, I saw chunks and flames shoot'n out of your Tail Pipe. You should turn off the Anti-Lag". I pretty much knew what was happening but never selected it off.

A little after I removed the Cat for inspection and relised that all of it's guts were gone... Replaced it with new one and never selected the "Flame Thrower" no mo!!!

Ghislain

I have a hi flow 3 inch cat on my car that I bought for 90 bucks yrs ago and never had a problem passing a e test

I'll put that in perspective. The population density of Saskatchewan is: 1.75 /km2
And the population density of Ontario is: 14.39/km2

The density of the largest city in Sask., Saskatoon: 50/km2
Density of Toronto: 4,149/km2, Metro: 850/km2

Saskatchewan registered vehicles: 750k
Ontario registered vehicles: 10.4mil

Vehicle to area ratio for Saskatchewan is: 1.26/km2
For Ontario: 11.3/km2

Pollution simply doesn't exist in Saskatchewan.

I won't argue that with you Jerry. But a 2 speed idle test isn't really a true emission test. Years back when we first got our Dyno and testing equipment I did a Pre and post cat test at idle and 2500. The numbers were close, so close i would of just failed a test with no cat at all.

You would have to have some really issues to fail a 2 speed idle test.

In my experiance those cheap cats just don't work. There is a reason why an OEM cat is closer to $1000 an last almost the life of a vehicle unless murdered by poor tune of engines ie. misfires, oil burning,driving around with a bad O2.

When I was fixin up my saturn, I melted the cat, and Saturn told me it would be 1200 to replace it in just parts. He said, dont do it, Its a rip, they arnt any better then aftermarket. Its all a money grab. he recomends afttermarket cats for all his customers and says he never had one come back as a fail. and saturns are bad for melting cats.

Your probably right Stephen it more then likely isn't as clean as oem,hell I drove for 7yrs with a test pipe until my daughter kept telling me my car smelled bad and was polluting the enviroment

Jay did you have a mid to late 90's Saturn? They were terrible oil burners and took out many cats.

I know, thats what im saying, the dealer said to buy aftermarket instead of the 1200dallor oem.

Running irridium plugs(stock) with a turbo and 8000+ rpm and a horrible tune, dosent help either

I purchased a magnaflow 3" cat for I think $60 last year.. car went from murdering the o-zone to a hybrid in one 20 minute welding session... I think my pre-cat swap outputs were 2x the limit, and post-swap banged out mostly 0's

when etesting at 2000rpms, is your cars still in closed loop? Cause inthe world of DSMAP we always run in openloop, and the guys say they just lean it out till it barely runs and this passes everytime, Even when it shouldnt. I havent needed to etest mine yet so i have no experience etesting dsmap yet.

After a month, still no luck...

What are your numbers? post a copy of the test read out.

Well. Assuming you still have not put a catalytic converter on your car... your simply not going to pass without it.

I personally deal with failed emissions tests almost on a daily basis. I find that amongst all aftermarket catalytic converters, WALKER is the best. I suggest getting a universal walker converter,(100-150$) install it, even temporarily with weld in flanges if you like...

Take the car out before the test, get the cat good and hot and see what your numbers are from there. If you still fail, post your results and I am POSITIVE someone on this board can help.

PS make sure your EGR valve and solenoid are hooked up properly as well.. If you do not have an EGR valve installed anymore, HOPEFULLY you have some tuning software that will allow you to retard your timing for the drive test (under load) This keeps the combustion temps/pressures a bit lower hopefully enough to keep NOX down on the drive test. (FWD)

just a thought