I've looked at the Mazdaspeed 6, and I dont' have anything bad to say about it. I've only ever driven the 3 though. That one was fun and zippy.

I've never driven a WRX either... Whole new ball game I'm sure, but apparently is very comparable to the Evo.

So may options, so little time.

And as it stands, this will have to wait a little longer as I just got offered a home so most of my savings will now be going towards appliances and furniture. Oh Joy...

MazdaSpeed 6 was only made 05-07. The drivetrain is very weak and does not take much above stock power without grenading and those 2.3L DISI engines have serious carbon buildup problems. They're direct injection which means fuel-related items are pricey as hell and fuel pumps are a known issue. Personally I wouldn't buy a MazdaSpeeed 6 as a reliable DD unless you have a good amount of time to verify it's mechanical condition. Also...Mazdas (especialyl of that era) rust to sh!t.

Subies have the shittiest interiors ever and they have bad fuel economy. They're also way overpriced by all the morons who think they're WRX is the best thing since sliced bread (i.e. all of them). I like Subies but they don't typically make financial sense for what you get.

If you can make the GSX last through winter, do it. If you can't just get a reliable beater crapbox Civic or something and be done with it.

Congrats on the house though

I thought you were planning to come back.

+1 on the rust.

The rest of your post is bollocks. Weak drivetrain? Can't take much above stock power? C'mon, there are guys pushing over 800hp on that weak drivetrain.

LOL at the 'pricey as hell' fuel related parts... but I guess when you're modding DSM's, virtually anything would appear expensive by comparison.

Funny how you walk all over mazda and subie's but champion the civic as a cure-all. Jokes.

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A thread like this brings out all the cooks in the kitchen. It's quite entertaining lol

Johnny, if you drive less than 65 kms per day, look at leasing something within your monthly budget. It really is a secure way of committing your money for a turn key DD with roadside and warranty. Plus loyalty perks moving forward with your brand of choice. If you drive more than that, just do what every one looking for a new car for the best price does. Hyundai 0% for 84 months. Just have the dealer throw in warranty and tires and you're laughing.

Keep your spyder the fun car. And the DD car, a reliable, fuel economical, versatile to your life changes over the next few years.

All I can suggest is to make a decision you'll thank yourself down the road.

Mike brings up a good point. Chevy has a similar 0% for 84 month on the Volt once a year, we will probably be jumping on it next year. If you don't hit the highway on your commute your only expense will be tires. Plus the 8k from the government is a nice plus.

Direct injection fuel systems are high pressure - it's expensive. Doesn't matter if it's Mazda or anyone else. 'Pricey as hell' might be a bit of an exaggeration but anyone who is used to DSM of regular (non high pressure) fuel accessory prices will definitely be in for some sticker shock. That's the point I was trying to get across.

Also, the carbon buildup is a huge issue. I've been around the Mazda forums and the MazdaSpeeds for over half a decade...I know exactly what the issues and costs related to them are. Admittedly I don't know nearly as much about the MazdaSpeed 6 drivetrain as I do the Mazda 3/MazdaSpeed 3 (which I literally know inside out) but last I heard they didn't fare well. This was a number of years ago and maybe things changed but all my comments about the powertrain are 100% true and verifiable with a quick search of the Mazda forums.

With regards to the Subies - I love Subies. Always have. BUT they are bad value for the money in the used car market because people over value them often. The interior being sh!t on all but the newest ones is common knowledge as is their shitty fuel economy. Not knocking them, just letting things that most people value very high be known. Again, this is all stuff easy to find with a quick search or a visit to the dealer. Nothing revolutionary or groundbreaking here.

So yeah, no 'bollocks' except maybe the MazdaSpeed 6 drivetrain.

QFT

WRX/STY? owners are generally worse than Civic owners.

I don't doubt WRX/STi guys are bad, but WORSE than Civic owners? I believe that would be right up there with a violation of physics: pretty much impossible.

I'm just being contentious because there's a foot of snow in my driveway And because Salmons post was bollocks And to an even lesser degree, because I think this forum could use some testosterone-fueled e-battles every now and again to liven things up

I suppose it's all moot since Johnny's not even going to buy another car because he's looking at a house now. Can you drive a house, Johnny? No. No you cannot. But I suppose houses are okay for the days you don't feel like driving anywhere

Lol.. I gave up when we figured out he dosent want a SUV or diesel truck. I havent seen a new car worth its price in years.

At least spell my name right if you're gonna try to get on my nerves

I don't like Salmon nearly as much as I do Salomon I think he's earned the right to rub members in any way he sees fit

Salmon is good too, lets not forget that! lol

This has been a fun thread. I truly would love a turn key car, that's for sure! The GSX will last some time still. One day when the chassis rails go, it'll just fold in half. lol. Everything else is still going strong, except for my second heatercore leak.... always just in time for winter. ugh.

One day I'll find a new car and be able to afford it.

2010+ G37, super reliable and a high 13s car stock.
The sport model can be had with a stick, comes with larger two piston calipers, lowered from factory, larger sway bars and close ratio steering.
A tune, intake and high flow cats get you around 300hp at the wheels, stock is 330 crank hp.