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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366725
December 20, 2011 02:57 am UTC
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Well ....if you really want to know what happen to the red Talon you don't need to look any further.

I BOUGHT IT!

It’s been sitting in the garage for the last 4 1/2 years!
I had big plans for it but I never seem to have time to play with it.

I knew something happened to the motor at the track but I wasn't sure what it was.
When the car arrived I noticed right away that the engine was running on 3 cylinders.
Check compression and sure enough # 3 cylinder was dead.
Took the head of and found only 1 valve was bent not the pair!
Can't remember if it was the intake or exhaust.
The only thing I can think of that might of cause this was when James drove it down the track he must of missed a shift and over revved the motor causing the oil pump to over power the relief valve which cause the valve to stay open for a fraction of a second to long.

Anyways here sits the car and contemplating on selling it.

The car hasn't seen rain for the last 5 years because it has been sitting in the garage ever since.
I never got emission test done, or certified and I never put on the road.
The only driving I have done with it was driving it around the block a few times.
BTW the decal on the hood is actually made of a reflective material and it really stands out at night when a light is pointed at it.

Maybe some day I'll finally put on the road or if some offers me some dough for it I might just sell it.

I took some pictures of last year after I washed it.

Hope the link works.
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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366726
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What happened to the Gorilla hair? lol

The only disappointing thing is that the nice seats are gone.

Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366729
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Whoa, what did happen to the interior?

And still love the exterior, these pictures show off the pearlescent nicely.

Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366734
December 20, 2011 06:27 am UTC
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No Gorilla hair? Loss of value right there LOL

Although the screen is gone as well, that I would have kept. Still looks great though. Quite nice that you bought it though, nice keepsake from a unique experience.


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366751
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Who did the hack job on the coolant line?


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366766
December 20, 2011 10:45 pm UTC
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-Still have the seats.
-I removed the Gorilla hair for obvious reasons.
-The screen, box, and the Boost controller were stolen at the track when all the racing was over.
-Jamal not sure what you mean about the coolant line but keep in mind that we only had 72 hours.


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366769
December 20, 2011 11:21 pm UTC
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On one of the talons, someone didn't use their brain and ghetto rigged a coolant line into another which obviously opened up under pressure down the track, lol. Looked hacked to me too.

I guess that is what he was referring to.


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366770
December 20, 2011 11:23 pm UTC
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It was on the blue/green car. Someone just stuck coolant hoses together with worm clamps to make up one length of hose. Seems like a good idea to me......

Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Ian Burnside] #366771
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Originally Posted by Ian Burnside
It was on the blue/green car. Someone just stuck coolant hoses together with worm clamps to make up one length of hose. Seems like a good idea to me......


We aren't supposed to do that!.. sh!t better go fix my lines tongue

Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366773
December 21, 2011 12:22 am UTC
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Originally Posted by Tony Vaz

-The screen, box, and the Boost controller were stolen at the track when all the racing was over.


argh, that sucks!

Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Reza Mirza] #366777
December 21, 2011 01:41 am UTC
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Originally Posted by Reza Mirza
On one of the talons, someone didn't use their brain and ghetto rigged a coolant line into another which obviously opened up under pressure down the track, lol. Looked hacked to me too.

I guess that is what he was referring to.


I was referring to this ^

The bickering and fighting was entertaining....

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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366782
December 21, 2011 03:53 am UTC
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Just watching it now............fak Tim looks young!

I remember that Jeremy Gore guy with his "Skylon". Damn that thing was hideous! I remember him trying to sell his starion/conquest fmic set-up for $1300 when the cores were typically being sold for $200, guess he wanted $1100 for his piping lmfao

It would've been nice to see Tim and Rob on the same team.


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366783
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I don't know how the red team put up with Jeremy. I wouldve put him to sleep and threw him in a corner somewhere. Theres no way I wouldve let that paint job happen! And the coolant line left me speechless bomb

Timbo!!! Why the hell weren't you driving???


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366784
December 21, 2011 04:39 am UTC
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hahaha, I know, that paint job ruined that car frown And it was probably the skylon guy's hack up.

The kid with the shaved head who was porting the hell out of everything reminded me of Brendan Warwick, haha. Brendan will port the hell out of anything and everything


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366791
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Fuk, I was young. I think 20 or 21 at that time. Watching makes me feel old.

Watching that brought back a lot of suppressed memories. The shaved headed guy is a good buddy of mine. We auditioned together out of boredom with Eric Lang but obviously only the two of us were chosen. We wanted to be on the same team obviously but we had no choice in that.

The show was rigged unfortunately. When we initially put the car together, it ran great. We went out to the track and did some practice runs in the empty parking lot with the nitrous hooked up and the car boogied. Unfortunately rain came in right before our runs and we were forced to reschedule for a later date. On that later date, our nitrous mysteriously stopped working, our shifter cables were loose and the coolant line was hacked. I can guarantee no one on my team would be THAT stupid to hook up the coolant line like that. The other team had their own issues and we’re all sure the production team set the cars up for failure.

I wasn’t driving because I was 20 years old and the team leader was more experienced and the show felt more confident in his driving ability. He couldn’t launch an AWD if his life depended on it. He was a funny guy though. Lots of laughs happened that week.


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tim Grechin] #366793
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Originally Posted by Tim Grechin
Fuk, I was young. I think 20 or 21 at that time. Watching makes me feel old.


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366794
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Yeah you always wonder if these things are rigged to not work out properly. Its made for entertainment purposes and I am sure to also fit the advertizers goals.

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Name me a TV show that isn't rigged freak

Tony I love that you bought and kept the car!

Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366797
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Wrestling!! So just kidding

Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366806
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What was the budget for the builds?


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it was like 10k wasnt it?

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Originally Posted by KEVIN KIRELUK
What was the budget for the builds?

$12,000


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366810
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It was supposed to be 10,000 but they claim we spent roughly 12,000.

Going by memory here and I'm sure I’ll missed a thing or two.

HKS Cams
650 Injectors
Extruded intake (nice piece, Thanks PPG)
Turbo (can't remember type but its big smile )
Intercooler
Ported Head
Ported Exhaust Manifold
Exhaust
AEM Fuel regulator
Electronic Fuel pressure gauge
Socketed ECU with reprogrammed chip to match injectors (Thanks Steve)
Spark Plug wire cover (Thanks Ziggy)
Balance shaft removed
Boost controller
Stereo System
Waldro 255 pump
Body and paint
Wheels and Tires
Lowered suspension
Interior
Intake piping
Steering wheel
Boost Gauge
Bully clutch
Strobe lights
Eagle Decal
3" GM Maf

You do the math. smile

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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366813
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I'll put in a couple of cents (in no particular order).
First off:
Team Torque was a good team and we built a pretty good car despite the best efforts of the folks running the show to purposely screw us over.

We had a great time laughing when the other team was fighting amongst themselves (which was constantly). There were a few times I thought they were going to start swinging at each other. Maybe they did.

Every tool supplied by the show was broken in some way. Even the vice on the workbench was broken! Imagine how pissed you get when its down to the last few hours, the MIG welder runs out of wire and all they have is 0.035" wire, the machine is setup for 0.023" wire, you scrounge up a drill bit to open up the tip, and the damn vice wont hold the tip so you can drill it!

The toolbox supplied was a joke, all the common sizes of tools were missing or broken. I brought my own tools every day and I even let the other team use them.

Our car was originally red and the paint was actually pretty good. The producers wanted to force us to paint the car and make sure both cars were not red at the start, so they sprayed our car with a coat of primer. No scuffing was done before the primer was sprayed. Tony wiped the primer off with rags and solvent, the whole flippin' car!

The producers were on a fairly tight budget. They didn't order the parts we spec'd for the car until our episode started filming. So they were constantly asking me if we could buy some other part instead. I asked why they didn't order sooner, they said they had to sell the cars from previous shows to get money to buy parts for us! What a great way to waste money on overnight shipping from the US (in some cases).

It was an extremely challenging, stressful, F-ed up situation all around. In the end was I glad I did it? YOU BET! Once in a lifetime experience (for me at least, I'm sure).


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366821
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Not sure how much they paid for overnight shipping from the US...a LOT of the parts were purchased from me...AT COST....
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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #366823
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WOW, this takes me waaaaay back.

I love how the guy makes fun of my ghetto ass fuel pump wiring, and then puts a chain link steering wheel, fuzzy dash, and oh 10k worth of mods to run what 4 seconds lower then I had it running when I sold it to WoW.

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Originally Posted by Nigel Smith
WOW, this takes me waaaaay back.

I love how the guy makes fun of my ghetto ass fuel pump wiring, and then puts a chain link steering wheel, fuzzy dash, and oh 10k worth of mods to run what 4 seconds lower then I had it running when I sold it to WoW.

Good times.


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #385447
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Figured this would be the best place to put this:

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...e-Talon-AWD-TSi-Coupe-W0QQAdIdZ412424154

It's for sale!


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Wow, that's a pretty good deal. I got a good chuckle our of the vent gauge "pod", if you can even call it that.


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Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tony Vaz] #385455
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tongue I'm watching the episode again lol


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i just finished watching that episode and wow!! Congrats Rob and Tony!! You guys and your team held great composure, put together a MUCH nicer looking ride and we all know who really "won" that competition. I hope none of the other team are members here on this board when I say, WHAT A JOKE!!!!! not even nitrous saved those fools.

I do have a question though, why did those 2 team members miss the final day?


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I have never seen this! Amazing! Made my day lol

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I would be embarrassed to list my name as the producer of this show. It was so over produced to create the illusion of drama. The host seems like a complete tool and the judges were saying such stupid things it made me shake my head. When they said "Someone was trying to do a cheap paint job" when it was them that did it takes the cake. The fact that you had to give them the coolant hose was also stupid and takes away from the whole point of the show.


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Originally Posted by Mike Eng
I hope none of the other team are members here on this board when I say, WHAT A JOKE!!!!! not even nitrous saved those fools.


We didn't have nitrous that worked and that coolant line was sabatoge. The car ran beautifully when we finished. The show made up a lot and did a lot of rigging. The paint job was horrible and killed the car.

And don't take the show or the car so seriously. It's 6 year old tv show produced for nothing more than entertainment.

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-A fool and a joke.


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Don't worry about it Tim, I took it for what it was. Looked pretty messed up on the show's perspective so the people in it don't have much of a choice but to use/do what they are obligated to, due to issues/rulings.

Still entertaining to watch and I'm sure it was fun, even with the arguing, to play with one of these on TV with a time restraint.



"Looked at it, declared war and went to find my throwing wrenches."
Re: War of the Wheels Talon Episode [Re: Tim Grechin] #385690
October 04, 2012 01:52 am UTC
October 04, 2012 01:52 am UTC
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Mike Eng Offline
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Originally Posted by Tim Grechin
Originally Posted by Mike Eng
I hope none of the other team are members here on this board when I say, WHAT A JOKE!!!!! not even nitrous saved those fools.


We didn't have nitrous that worked and that coolant line was sabatoge. The car ran beautifully when we finished. The show made up a lot and did a lot of rigging. The paint job was horrible and killed the car.

And don't take the show or the car so seriously. It's 6 year old tv show produced for nothing more than entertainment.

Sincerely,
-A fool and a joke.


I knew I had to be jabbing at someone on the board when I posted that. Hopefully you didn't take any offence to that, I merely wanted to cheer on rob and tony. Hey, why weren't you on their team?? tongue maybe we could have seen one the cars go 12 seconds on the qtr.

Ps. Thank you video for educating me on how NOT to mod an interior looool JK


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