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ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137881
June 03, 2005 02:36 am UTC
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Well, I was driving up the 400 to my parents place, and up comes behind me, while im crusing at about 130, a blue car. Thought it was a austin martin or something. He pulled up beside me, I opened the wastegate, and blew off the BOV a few times. That got his attention, and off we go. I hit the overtake booster, giving me 15psi(remeber, i have a nonturbo engine so 15psi is alot) I take him right away, all the way to 230, I had about 8 lengths on him by then. This is when he quit. I slowed down, He had a BIG smile on HIS face and gave me a thumbs up. I pulled in behind him, saw the Maserati badge on the back, pulled up beside him, with a HUGE smile on my face, and received another thumbs up, off we went again. Same thing, but stopped around 210. I looked up the car on their website, $242,000. AAAAAAHHHH, mine was $3500.

BUT if we had kept going, as in he not quite, I was a dead man, his supposedly goes up to 290kph.


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Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137882
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400hp vs a turbo NT? Sorry hard to believe it was the car you speak of.....

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16g can handle 400whp, you tool.

Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137884
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Not on a non turbo block without any injectors it looks like it?

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What exactly is a "overtake booster"? 15psi on a non turbo motor is impossible without super high octane, the ring lands crack even at 8-9 on a 14b, nevermind a 16g. I am not saying you didnt beat a car but a 400hp grand sport by 8 car lengths? Just doesnt sound right.

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Maybe he has the motor built up, stop assuming **** and ask the guy first. Stupid retard.

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Jesse instead of reading books how to scam people for money, maybe you should read some that teach english. Get back to finding garbage to sell to us.

READ HIS POST, he says he has a non turbo motor and that 15psi is alot for it.

There is no nonturbo that is taking 15psi from a 16g, the "overtake" booster he speaks of was most likely the delta gate malfunctioning which is so damn common with those.

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June 03, 2005 06:48 pm UTC
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Man, a thread with both Jesse and Pictor arguing/bitching each other out, how interesting to read... bird


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Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137889
June 03, 2005 07:17 pm UTC
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whats wrong we the people in this club now?

Can you guys calm down?
First off, if u bothered to read, my car is a 91 TURBO Laser, but u obvisouly didnt read that or the rest of my mods. 15 psi on a 16g with 9:1 compression IS alot. Ive put 20 psi on it with 116 octane, but yes, 94 with 20psi would blow it.
Before u flame someone for beating a $242,000 car, try racing it yourself, or me for that matter. Ive ran a 13.6 on 10 psi. Think you could?


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Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137890
June 03, 2005 07:21 pm UTC
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An overtake booster you ask? Well, again if u read I have Profec A, its electronic. Ill explain how it works, it to you if u want. Anyways, keep up the good posts, Champ.


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Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137891
June 03, 2005 07:51 pm UTC
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Nice kill Colins.
Damn if I even posted the amount and kind of cars and bikes I've killed, there would be chaos here...... its happened before. I remember when everyone used to flame me cause I would post how I could kill M3's and M5's with my 14b, lol.
"your car is only blah blah horsepower and that car is blah blah horsepower, there is no way you beat that"
For all the non believers and bench racers go fix and tune your POS up and learn how to race, if not sell you DSM cause its fukin slow and it ain't for you.


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Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137892
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**** I still remember when people here called me BS cause I would post that my 14b car was well capable of running 12's, and I just hadn't had a good pass down the track, when only just a hand full of people were doing it back in those days.
Whats the 14b record now?
Yep 11.2 at like 120 or something like that.
Fukin nonbelievers, I'm gonna break into the 11's this year with just my sidemount and 16g....

Anyways good kill Colin.


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I saw a blue Maserati on the 407 just west of the 400 this morning.

Right car, right colour, right area. So it does lend a little more backup to the story. laugh

I also passed a guy towing a V2 rocket on the 407 this morning. rotate I assume it was the <A HREF="http://www.canadianarrow.com/vehicle1.htm">Canadian Arrow</A> team towing to a launch site, but I definitely did a bit of a double take. laugh

Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137894
June 03, 2005 08:43 pm UTC
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Colin i wasnt being agressive, was just hard to believe. But it seems those 9:1 you put in right? Since the NT is somewhere in the 10:1 range, and yes i would be interested in hearing how the "overtake booster works"

But good kill then, those cars have unbelievable aerodynamics and looks.

Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137895
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Originally posted by Victor Gerena:
But it seems those 9:1 you put in right? Since the NT is somewhere in the 10:1 range
Stock 1G NT is 9.0:1

Anyhow Colin, I am surprised at how much air you can give that NT engine without failure.
Interested in how you are tuning it, and what monitoring you have to assure that this is safe for your motor! tu


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Re: ME VS Maseratti Grand Sport #137896
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Yes that was the car. Blue, Mid 40s driving it.
Actually, I told the old man about it, he described the driver. He knows him and his father through business.

Nope, my motor is a stock non turbo engine. My car is a turbo car though. This is my 3rd engine. The non-turbo has been working great for 3 years. Havent dynoed it yet, guessing 300 ballpark. It hasnt been fully tuned yet, prob another 20 hiding in their as it runs rich still.
The overtake booster ups the boost for a short time. I have mine set for 15 seconds, adding 5psi. You can make it so its always on, or I can turn off the profec and run 7psi. And no, my Delta gate has never leaked. If uve never tried electronic boost control, you dont know what your missing. Ill run at 10 psi, pulling good, hit the button, the engine changes pitch, and WHAM. The car wants more boost but Im scared to try more, as Im only using 450s.


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I monitor it with my palm pilot and mmcd. Zero nock at 15psi.


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Rob, im also very amazed on the NT being able to take 15psi with a 16g. Ive read countless times where even 8-10psi was to much. I guess it all comes down to the tuning.

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did you add a knock sensor and an ecu from a turbo car?

What kind of timing advance do you get at that boost?. Just curious if you had to retard the base timing a little. That would help a lot for avoiding knock but it also kills a bit of power.


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Originally posted by Colin Shainline:

The overtake booster ups the boost for a short time. I have mine set for 15 seconds, adding 5psi. You can make it so its always on, or I can turn off the profec and run 7psi. And no, my Delta gate has never leaked. If uve never tried electronic boost control, you dont know what your missing. Ill run at 10 psi, pulling good, hit the button, the engine changes pitch, and WHAM. The car wants more boost but Im scared to try more, as Im only using 450s.
I know what u mean about electronic boost control. I have an old school HKS EVC and its nice to be able to change from like 12-16 psi while going WOT in 5th. The only thing about my EVC is it is inconsistent with the boost levels every other day. It goes up or down a few psi and I have to adjust it, although it only takes like a few seconds with the turn of the knob.
I still feel like putting back in my manual boost controller, but I can't give up the in car adjustability.


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June 03, 2005 11:37 pm UTC
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yes, the timing is retarded compared to normal. Yes All my turbo parts were bolted on, including the sensors. I think stock is 10 advanced, and I THINK mine is 5 advanced. I dont remember what timing is when i floor it, but 28 comes to mind. Could be wrong, id have to log a pass to be sure


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