Stupid idiot in a red 2G (probably ESI) was driving behind me, I was already going around 70 in a 60 zone and yet he slams on the gas (as if to say I was too slow), comes up from behind, then cuts me off. I accelerated next to him and looked over to see if it was someone I knew or if that was his unique way of greeting a fellow DSMer. The guy doesn't look over. It's a hefty punk and i saw him turn behind that Saturn dealer. He probably lives in those new townhouses there. What a knob. I have yet to meet any friendly DSMer's in Toronto. I was in Kingston and I got a thumbs up from another 1G and that's about it.

This happened Tuesday, February 21, around 11pm.

Don't judge the rest of us based on the actions of that jerk.I have the good fortune of meeting a few guys on this board and they were all excellent people.That guy is a moron no matter what he drives!

yes , wayne is right i am in the gta too
and i am as frienly as you can get

-manuel

I'm actually not judging the whole DSM crowd. My post just says I have yet to meet any nice DSMers in Toronto. I didn't say, "all DSMers are assholes". I just happened to not have met much good ones on the road. Everyone I've met through the board have been on the up and up, despite the occasional cowardly jabs in the forums and the shady mechanic. But like in most forums, I'm not a fan of any over-enthusiastic moderator who spends most of their life sitting in front of the computer monitoring activity like it was the only thing that makes them feel good, by flexing their muscles, stressing the rules, policies, and kicking people off the club with mere suspicion, to then retract everything later, and to have a section to inconsistently humiliate people who have made faux pas in terms of posting etiquette, and the occasional "should we let this guy back in the club" nonsense. Giving users nicknames that doesn't encourage people to contribute to this board by casting them with a negative connotation doesn't help their cause either. It's supposed to make me feel good to be labelled? LOL.

Wayne, you are a nice guy. Enjoy the rims I sold to you. I am afterall, as labelled by a moderator who shall be nameless, the "Junk Peddler". It's quite hilarious actually...that someone would actually give such a damn. I've seen more crap sold by other people. Maybe we can form a separate "Junk Peddling" section for us to sell our $10 thermostats.

HA! ROTFLMAO... Good jab. (: But then again, the reason this board HAS such nice people is that it's not left to degenerate like some OTHER boards.

"Whuch youse suxxors fah shoor boot my Honduh?" and such. If you're a good guy, you get treated well. If not, then not.

Even down here, I'd say about 80% of DSM owners haven't even HEARD of the forums, let alone www.dsm.org. And some are as bad as any 'Honda owner' with trash talking and lack of knowledge.

Come on Troy, not all Honda owners are like that. lol. Shhh....I'm thinking of buying a Honda now. Seriously...

That's why I put the quotes around Honda owner, to show the stereotype.

But then, what you call a stereotype, I call 9 times out of 10... (:

Hey, Ziggy's going to be a Honda owner. You don't get much trashier than that! *Laugh*

And oddly enough, the new Prelude EX V6 with 6-spd caught my eye...

Prelude? Don't you mean, Honda Accord?

When he said that, I went straight to Google to find a picture of this.
Don't tease me please...

lol a V6 6SPD Prelude. I would actually consider trading in the DSM for that.

Actually wait..... no I wouldn't. I love PSI.

Hey jason the rims were great untill i hit a curb!!!!.We have a lot of nuts cutting people off just check out the action on the dvp or 401, it's crazy.

HA! I did mean the Accord. They compared it to the VTEC 4cyl in the Acura TSX and it romped it in power.

Heh, maybe we should submit the V6 Prelude idea (out of the NSX?) to Honda... *Laugh*

I used to have a 2001 Honda Prelude SE. It felt like a Honda Accord. At WOT, it sounded fast, but it didn't go anywhere.

My 01 Civic sounds fast at WOT too but I think it goes backwards...

Dean sports a Civic, just so we have something to poop on.
He's such a good sport

did you happen to be in the left lane?!

^^^ Left lane. There's also this other fool who has a red 2g ESI (could be the same guy?) and he was revving his car while backing up into a Esso gas station at Yonge and Finch. If you were blind, you'd think he was preparing to race at a streetlight. I don't get people who get their jollies from people looking at their car when they aggressively back up a car and burn their clutch. lol

Jason,


so you happened to be BLOCKing the PASSing lane on a HIGHWAY, and now you complain that the guy passed you on the right side?

MAYBE you forced him too?

It was YOUR illegal driving style that caused him to do another illegal thing. The only difference is that he didn't block the PASSING lane, you did.

Amin, I don't know of any roads with a speed limit below 90kph that require you to recognize the left lane as passing only. When it's a boulevard, you can be in any lane you want.

Of course, it was stupid down here until they finally rescinded the law that made it illegal to pass a car on it's right side. (:

left lane is passing lane as far as I know.

Regardless of how fast you are going, I consider it a matter of courtesy to leave it for people to pass.

highway traffic act of Ontario REQUIRES you to "turn out to the right" to allow someone to pass....in other words, left lane is PASSING lane, not "fast lane", and those who treat it as "fast lane" should, in my opinion, have their licenses revoked and/or be shot!!!(and if you would like, I will tell you my preference )

I was on the right lane, he passed me on the left lane, but he turned back to the right lane in front of me...

forgot to add that when he passed in front of me, I changed to the left lane to go side by side with him to look at him... yeah, so i misread your initial question. YES, i was going 70 on the RIGHT lane, he passed me on the left and cut in front of me, but then i went to the left.

Oh and I'm sure you havn't driven in the left lane as a normal lane before. :rolleyes:
It's hard to find the moral highground when were all standing in the mud.

Sure I have...at 140+. And I will BRIEFLY tailgate to let them know I'd like by. If he still won't move, I will go around on the right, and give him a dirty look as I do so.

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most of us have done that, but that doesn't make the other driver an "idiot".

I personally drive in the right lane unless I have to be in the left.

MTO is ANAL about being in the right hand lane when you take your driving tests. Make a left hand turn, into the left lane. If you don't change lanes right away... they are looking around you, behind you, beside you, wondering WTF you aren't changing lanes.

However, I do drive in the left lane sometimes, just because the streets in Trenton are horrible in the right lane and you wreck your suspension hitting the pot holes!!!

I wonder what is more illegal, driving 140km+ and tailgating someone in the left hand lane or staying on the left hand lane going the speed limit (or at least not 140+). It's funny how we are immediately blasting those who drive on the left hand lane while we are doing something just as illegal. Everything is illegal under the HTA, but for some reason we don't put as much value on speeding 40km/h+ over the limit and tailgating. LOL.

Back to the original "idiot" topic. I was on the RIGHT lane in a highly patrolled area (south on Don Mills where the Sony building is) doing 70km/h in a 60km/h AND the other driver was a DSMer who cut me off.

I am not saying what I do is legal...but I don't force anyone else to drive 140 and tailgate...I don't even encourage it. I don't get in THEIR way. If someone else wants to do 160, I will have moved out of his way LONG before he reaches my back bumper. I am only suggesting that everyone else be as considerate of OTHER drivers..Most clowns are just happy to putt along in the left lane at 10km over. If they are out for a Sunday drive, that is fine, but stay out of the left lane unless you are passing..it is simple courtesy AS WELL AS the law.

Hey...... I still like the V6 Prelude Idea!
I have a 98 Prelude as well... And I love driving it, i find it fun to drive. And if they ever came back out with a new prelude I would deffinatly buy one. But thats wishful thinking!

Maybe the motors are swappable. (:

Strange, here in NS the law is you only need to keep right when the signs are present 'Keep Right Except To Pass' (and some people are morons here as well).

I'm surprised it isn't the same in Ontario. I know that lane discipline isn't rigidly enforced on the 401 and such. And if you're going to make a left turn, just WHEN do you pull left? And what if someone rear-ends you? When does it go from being your fault to theirs?

It is not ENFORCED here at all...that is the biggest problem with our highways. I am surprised it is NOT the same there? Maybe it is and you just aren't aware of it? 99% of people here are also unaware. They all think of the left lane as the "fast" lane, LOL. If making a left turn, you pull left at an "opportune" moment. If people weren't all riding in the left lane, that would never be a problem, LOL. If someone rear ends you, the fault is ALWAYS with the car in the back!!

Unless evey jurisdiction that I know of and there are a good 5 or 6, the left lane is passing lane.

KEEP RIGHT is just a reminder.

Nah, I always keep up with the traffic laws. I know because on one 2-lane boulevard (actually designed as a 100kpb highway) before it was developed, I always 'reminded' drivers to keep to the right, and most did.

But I always wondered at the confusion it could possibly create (and sometimes did) when the road terminated, turning right or left. You get people merging left, and faster-moving vehicles coming up on the left lane, some of them wanting to turn right.

So I researched, and the rule is that you have to keep right if there's a sign saying so, like on a highway. Otherwise, you can drive in whatever lane you like. Stay left if you're turning left, and right if you're turning right. If traffic's heavy, you shouldn't be moving so fast that you'll be passing quickly anyway.

Like I said, it was a bit dicey with some cops because of the 'no passing on the right' law, but they've since rescinded that. System works good!

So Ziggy, what's the difference between 'passing' and 'fast' lane? I'd think you would be going faster if you were passing someone on the right. And 'opportune' moment? Maybe that was a mile back before the turn in rush-hour traffic.

And no, if you change lanes and a car rear-ends you, partial (if not all) fault lies on the car changing lanes. Someone just posted the Ontario insurance guidelines on here recently...

I hope this "keep right" thing is only when traffic levels are low. Imagine during a traffic jam and everyone would have to stick to the very right lane unless they were going 140km/h to "pass". This keep right law was made back then when horse carriages were sharing the road with cars. I think that if you are going the limit or less, you should keep right. However, all should use common sense and I don't think the left lane is only reserved for people speeding. I drive on the left hand lane a lot and that's because I don't drive 100km/h on the highway, HOWEVER, if some jerk is going 160km/h or much faster than me, I move over if I'm in that lane for any reason.

No, it IS the law and it makes sense on the open highway. If there is NO traffic, and I'm doing 150kph? I'm doing it in the far right lane.

On the Autobahn, where lane discipline is STRICTLY enforced (or else you die, this isn't by the police) the right hand lane was moving at 100kph or less, the middle was 110-130, and the fast (passing? ( lane was anything above that. As soon as someone passed, they got as far to the right as they could with the traffic flow.

...what I'm saying is if I'm going like 130km/h and everyone else is doing 100 on the right, why should I keep changing in and out when there is no one behind me?

That may be an insurance guideline, but the police will always charge the car in the rear in a rear end collision. We have "no fault" insurance here. A big part of the reason we HAVE traffic jams is morons driving in the left. Think about it, if everyone stayed out of that lane except to pass, how would that lane EVER come to a complete stop??

Bad asian drivers?....

Because if you get complacent and stop paying attention to your review there's a good chance you won't notice someone come up behind you. Just move over like you are supposed to and there's no problem.