I had posted at the beginning that Chris was a great guy, and he was. Everything i wanted done he had got done. I wanted my kit out in 3 days he was in the store buying cardboared and everything. then it came to the money part.
I sent my money and we both agreed because of certain circumstances that he will owe me badck 100 dollars.
I recieved my kit 2 1/2 weeks ago, and he said that he sent the M/O out the day after the kit was sent out. Now i know its only a 100 dollars but still its money that i should have in my pocket.
I do have all e-mails that prove in writing he owes me a hundred dollars, they also say when licked it, sticked it and sent it. but come on, i just sent a subwoofer to NY and it took 4 days on ground, i think an envelope should have been here 2 weeks ago.

Now what do i do, I have been told to have my lawyer contact him (friend of the family, no fees )Or should i go to the police. Sorry guys to bitch and complain i just want to know what i should do.
If you do not feel comfortable saying it over the thread please feel free to e-mail me.
And if Chris decides to come on here and give the whole "i did my part, i sent it out (almost 3 weeks ago) i ask this thread to be closed. Cause its simple, he obvioulsy needed that 100 dollars.

Thanks guys

Josh

the police don't care. You take a risk when it comes to mail.
If you owe me 100 bucks and id ont give it to you..cops wont do anythign because its not illegal.
If this transaction happened through paypal then you could have contacted paypal and told them what happened. They would then contact his credit card company and deal with it accordingly.
Sorry you got punked man.

Josh,

I dont really care if you come on here spamming me. I sent you Money, I sent it the EXACT day the guy came and picked up the body kit. I sent it to EXACT same address you gave my sister when you called her at 6 am in the morning to wake her up. Listen like I said I have done all that I can for you at this point in time. I sent you kit, I sent your money and I did it all in a matter of 2 DAYS! Josh, im not bashing you because you are a good guy, fast payment and great communication, but you have to realize I did not rip you off in any way. I have never done that, Ive had it done to me, just like im sure so many of us have. I dont know what to tell you, all I know is that your money WAS sent and I hope you get it.

If you care to cheack I have had over 60 Positive feedback on e-bay under the name "bauer-6". Josh I assure you I am no theif

Chris

So if it's a money order why don't you cancel it and send another? Maybe Xpresspost this time so you can track it.

Chris if you did sent the money order, you should have the "sender's copy" of that with tracking number" on it. You should able to check whether it is cashed or not... since it's been a couple of weeks after u sent it out already.

If it hasn't been cashed, it's easy. Tell the bank you need to cancel it, and send another one to Josh. DONE!

The only problem is it wasnt not a MO, it was a direct payment. It can't be cancelled it like getting cash directly. Also It wasnt sent regiestered mail because Josh told me not to, because there was no hurry. I also made it out to the company that his father works for, which agian he told me too. I dont know, all I know is that I have paid his 100 dollars and I will not be sending another 100 because then I am out the cash.

Please close this thread, this is a personal matter between us which I HAVE been trying to work out with Josh

Chris

Josh, have you checked with your father's company to ensure someone there didn't cash it without telling you?

Yes i have, it is only the company's name on the envelope rather then putting mine. But it was still sent to my home adress. See he got that adress from me because when we sent the MO to him for the kit we sent it through purolater under my dads companies account. So he still sent it under my dads company name---imperial tabacco limited(ITL) but to my adress in burlington, Not to the main office. Now chris what exact adress did you send it to. And do you havea copy of this payment, because a bank is going to give you a recipt of some sort.
I just want to know where the money is because this is taking a long time for an envelope to arrive in the same country. Christmas time i can see it taking this long on a very bad year!
But lets be serious, you have to understand why i might be a little suspicious.

hahaha and for the record, i didnt mean to call that early in the AM forgot about the time difference!!

Ohh and like i said im not bashing, and the only reason i came on here was to speak up and get some advice, and as you can see all these gentleman on here are trying to help and get to the bottom of this.
And i thank you:
Dominik
Blake
fai
and jeff.


Well hope to get more advice and better yet a check.

josh

I blame the guy that can't speell.

too many thoughts at once, writing too quick and what you get

spelling errors

What exactly is a "direct payment" Chris?

I am familiar with cheques, money orders, cashier's cheques, bank drafts, and direct payments when it involves sending from one bank account to another... but I am not familiar with a mailable direct payment?

Can you explain a bit please?

Thanks,

Andrew thank you.. because i was wondering that myself i am not too sure what that is. And still to date, no sign of the cheaque.

As far as this topic goes im done, like I have said my father and my sister went sent Josh out the money. All my father said is it was a direct payment. Now, Josh if you want to take this up any futher contact me. As for this board im done with it, I will no longer be checking this post. If any of you wish to contact me further about this matter feel free to do so. My e-mail is Isonex@shaw.ca, I will respond as fast as I can and give you as much info as possible. However, like I have said baseball has started and now I have commitments to my team, and with 3 hour practices 5 times a week and road trip on weekends, I no longer have time to play on the boards. So as I have said if any of you wish to contact me feel free to do so.

Chris

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bob Brown:
<strong> I blame the guy that can't speell. The irony

I new you would just try to up and leave it like you have on numerous accounts.
That is why i posted on here my issues.

So any other advice would be greatly appreciated.
Or do i just go with the fact he fucked me??

Email him directly, as he asked... and copy the emails and replies here, if you want to keep us in the loop.

I bet $10 that he does read this thread again...

He completely avoided my question.
How hard would it have been to call his Dad, and ask how the payment was made.

Answer? Simple. Easy.

If it was my rep. on the line, I'd have called in two seconds.

Actually, if it was my rep. on the line, I would never have let it get this far, for the sake of a few bucks.

This is too bad...

Come on Chris, please... prove me wrong.
The baseball excuse just doesn't fly...

Or, hey, give him your Dad's number, and he can leave you out of the loop, since it would appear that your Dad is the one who had the money last...?

Also, in your first post, you sent the money. Later, your Dad and Sister sent the money.
Which is it?

I think there is something fishy here.....It is like Andrew says....there are SO many ways to pay, but a "direct payment" is "DIRECT" ...it does not go through the mail. If it was mailed, it has to be a money order, cashier's cheque, bank draft, regular cheque, or something like that. In any case, there would be a record of it. Even with a "direct payment" which DOESN'T get mailed, the bank gives you a transaction number which can be traced. The story changing about who mailed it, etc., also seems fishy. Chris, maybe you aren't a thief as you claim....but maybe your dad or sister is??

The only other possibility, Josh, if it WAS a direct payment, is there any chance that nothing was ever mailed but that there is an extra $100. in your dad's business' bank account??

Really hate to see anyone get ripped off!!....and if it isn't a ripoff, how hard can it be, like Andrew says, to ask how it was paid and trace the paperwork??

I've dealt personally with Chris here in Alberta, and he has been nothing short of a cool guy to deal with, mellow, doesn't complain and has given me nothing but smiles on my face.

I don't mean to be biased Josh, but I honestly doubt that he'd be out to scam people of money. He sold me a MINT set of 1G rims with basically brand new V-rated ties for $225cdn. In addition, he has sold a number of parts on the calgdsm site for cheap money, and has extensive external "capital" to fund his Talon project.

For the $100, I think it would have not been worth his time in all honesty if he were to really scam you.

Just my two bits.

Ziggy correct me if im wrong. But a direct payment would mean i could pretty much know when he is going to send it say 3 PM and i could literally stand there and watch it go into my account??
Jason- im glad you put in your two cents... I agree he was a great guy to work with and everything you said about him was correct. BUT... Look at the big picture, like were is my money? What is a "direct payment" And how come he wont answer half the questions? and how come he just up and left the thread if he did not scam??
These are all the questions going through my head. Sure a 100 dollars is nothing but, come on its money i could have used to pay off my 4000dollar loan. See what im saying. but again i do agree with you about chris but again look at this a little more closely.

josh

josh, yes, a direct payment would be ALMOST like that, but usually I believe they are processed overnight. If he paid at his bank before say 4:00 pm or so, it should show up in your account in the morning. Any chance that happened to either yours or your dad's account? It is a strange thread, he doesn't seem like a scammer, yet he won't answer simple questions and the fact is you are still short a hundred bucks!!

Nope there was no money added to any account of mine or my parents. And i even checked that account yesterday and i still have 0 funds in that one!! (all my money is in another one!!)
BUT...... this all makes no sense now because ziggy, he said "his dad mailed it to my adress." Therefore proving that this "direct deposit" makes no sense.

Josh, I feel really bad for you!! It seems like he might be an ok guy, but fact remains you were ripped off! It almost sounds like his father or sister is the thief!!!

Well i have one more plan that few members told me about. So i think i might try that.

just don't do anything illegal

Ohhh i live too far from him to kill him ... But i use to live 20 minuits from him and i grew up in the down town calgary, so i have people !!!!
Nah not illegal at all, but very mature and my last chance of seing my money.

Okay, so first time since Ive checked this site since my last post. I must say Ziggy you are the most immature, know it all ive ever met. You honestly think my father or even sister for that matter would scam 100 dollars!?!?!?! Listen as I have said I do not need that money, it was never mine in the first place. Josh I think you'd better check with your dad and see if he hasn't cashed some money because I sent it, and after looking at canadapost.com it says you have recived your package.....Now listen this has gone far enough, Josh if you want to try to get your "boys" or girls on me go ahead because I got lotsa friends that like to fight and would help me with that anytime. To me I think that is taking a cowardly way out. You havent called me once since I sent out the kit. You even wrote to me in an e-mail that it was cool and we were to drop this. You know its funny because when that package was delivered you wrote that e-mail to me not to long after.

And Jason, thanks for being there bud, you know as well as everyone else I have way to much to do then deal with this crap. Like I've said I have sold MANY things and never had a complaint. People for our own board are here to vouch for me, and they are right, I do sell things for VERY little, half the reason is because if I dont need it and other people do way not help them out? I mean sure its great to make money but I also look out for my fellow DSMer's and most important my friends.

So like I said Josh if ou want to resolve this call me or do something, just dont sit on this board and bash me for no reason. And as for you Ziggy, you dont know my family or me so please dont sit there like you know something, when the fact is you dont know sh!t! And another Zigg, if you met my father, just for that comment you would not be living anymore. So I strongly sugest to you that you STFU and mind your own sh!t and stop being a Homo.

As for the direct deposit sh!t, well that was a mistake on my behalf. What I actually ended up getting was just a simple Payment from the post office made out to "Imperal Tobacco" now I do have evedence to prove this once I get it scanned e-mail me and I will more then greafully show you.

Anyways thats my 0.02$ like I said I probably wont be checking this board anytime soon because of ball, so if you have anything please contact my through e-mail.

Chris

Well chris thought you would come back.

Considering i just lost $100 i think i have handled this very good.

Also there is no bashing on my behalf, i am on here for advice, i have recieved alot of PM's to see what could be done about this.

Chris look at the big picture and my position, now you send me this proof of yours so that i can take that and trace the mail.
Now give me ALL the details you sent.
What i mean is.

You said you sent it to ITL
Now what was the Adress that you sent it to, because that may have been the big mistake here. And if some how you sent it to the main office then obviously it would have been recieved BUT my dad would have got the mail because if you were smart you would have put his name on it "wade stevenson"
So how bout you give me some detils here. And send this proof of yours. I need to know were you sent it to and if you even put mine or my fathers name on it.

Thank you

I do think that we may have this resolved soon if you would like to finally answer my questions.
Again thank you

Watch the name calling.

(I can't believe people have to resort to childish tactics like name calling when dealing with situations like this.)

It won't be tolerated here.

Steve i totally agree, thats why i have kept my mouth shut and tried to be as patient and co-operative as i can.

Looks like we owe Andrew $10

Chris, for what it is worth I am NOT immature, and probably older, definitely bigger, and certainly not afraid of your father. You admitted that this "direct payment" business was a "mistake" on your part, which is just a nice way of saying what it really was....bullshit!!
All anyone ever asked for was for you to:
a. tell the truth
b. take the trouble to get some details from your father about how and where this payment was sent. I am sorry you felt the "mature" way to handle this was to lie and bullshit! As for not knowing your family, you are absolutely right. Everything I posted on this board was based ENTIRELY on the bullshit you were posting here!

frack off dork

also mature

I hate when people throw out comments like this. Yes your dad is big and scary, and yes threats over the net from half way across the country are scary too :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

What was the point of that?

Thanks, Jon. My first impression was that there were basically good people on this board....I was starting to wonder....thanks for the confirmation.

Where did this come from? What is it accomplishing? Josh is trying to get this resolved and he's going at it very well. Don't get this thread closed because you leave these kinds of comments.

Noah, you are right. I should stay out of this, but I admire Josh's patience!!

Jon, it's pointless and everybody knows that Amin is a fracking post slut. She has the extreme need to reply whether it make sense or not.

Thanks guys im trying to go go about this in the most mature way, but it sucks knowing there are guys out there who scew people around.
And after this i still have none of my questions answered.

That was my point too.
Josh is trying to resolve an issue. There is no need for stirring sh!t up. Josh himself has shown maturity and kept a good cap on name calling or anything like that. But once every two posts there comes the point about size of Chris's Dad. now some third party claims that he is bigger than the daddy and therefore he can solve the problem. Now is that relevant or productive?!

calling two other characters who are by no means involved
"sounds like his father or sister is the thief"
is indeed a goodwill action that needs praise of the club.

Chris should have not brought that topic up at all, but it was part of his arguement.

I think my point is a bit more clear. Sorry if I was irrationally harsh