yeah amin, ziggy isnt just saying that his sister and farther are theifs because he feels like it, he actually thinks they might be, it is his opinion, whether one person finds it far fetched some might agree. But we will keep this civilized and everything like you want as well amin, because this is a great thread which proves to everyone...BUYER BEWARE

Its simple, you cant trust many people out there

Amin,

At least this post makes a little sense, unlike your last one!!

For the record, I never said anything like I am bigger than your dad and can solve this problem.
I was only responding to Chris' comments that I was immature and that for my comments his father would have killed me. I was only advising that I am probably older than his father, definitely bigger than his father, and not afraid of his father....all truths. Maybe my nose didn't belong in this, but I felt sorry for Josh...he is a nice guy, and he is out $100. Chris said he was no longer responding to this thread, and I figured calling his sister and father thieves would for sure get him to respond....and it did! Also, I don't see how you can say the father and sister are by no means involved. According to Chris himself, they were the last people to see Josh's money. The whole problem here is that Chris has taken the lazy and immature route and just kept changing his bullshit story, instead of just one time taking the trouble to get the REAL FACTS and get this resolved!!

Just another note......I have a tough time accepting this "no time because of baseball excuse"....according to the records my computer shows, Chris was reading this thread a half hour ago....

Well ziggy i e-mailed him personally and nicely and am in the process of TRYING to get all the info from the "Money Order" that he "sent" or his father and sister "sent"
However i am still waiting for a response.
Hopefully my e-mailing him would remind him he has to get that info to me, considering your records show he can visit DSM but not e-mail me??

"apparently to ITL at 151 north shore Blvd west Burlington not.

by the way, I asked Chris if he's received your email again tonight, and he still has not received anything from you.

Not to make excuses, but I have heard from other people in the city that their @shaw email accounts have had delivery problems, that may be why he hasn't got one from you yet.

Check with receiving it was Canada post item number cx 024 081 656
signed for about the 13th of may.

That is the e-mail from Chris's dad.

Now---- The name on the envelope was ITL
NOT --Josh stevenson, but the adress is my house were i live, therefore it should be here because the name on the envelope is my farthers company name rather then "josh Stevenson" So it should be at my house
correct??

Josh, at least you now have a Canada Post item number. You should be able to have this traced!

thats correct. So i guess i will check it out tomarrow and see what the deal is. But again doesnt it seem a little weird?? It should have come to my adress??

sometimes things get lost in transit...that is why they have tracking numbers....and if it was lost, they will issue a replacement...that is why people buy money orders...it is a safe way to send money!

Hope your correct ziggy!!

Any news yet?

And, I have taken care of Amin.

Not on topic, but I don't feel that I should open a new thread for it:

I consider Amin a friend and a very knowledgable member. He's helped me enough that I wouldn't be where I am right now without him.

Care to share why he is now "unregistered"?

Sorry if I wasn't clear:

"frack off dork"

No smiley, no explanation.
Just plain rude.
That crosses the line.

Sorry to drag this on, but did you read his follow-up explanation and apology?

Have read it again.

Sorry, my reaction was "irrationally harsh".

Isn't that the line?

Yeah, ok, Amin, sorry man... you pushed my button on a day that was already in the dumper. Please re-apply and I'll put things back the way they were.

I just get so soooooooo sick and tired of all the useless posts, and then this one just offended me to no end.

This place is in dire need of a good NABR-ization.

Well Its been quite sometime since I have checked this post. I must say I not recived an e-mail from Josh in sometime now. I have sent Josh all info and have even offered pic's of the recepts for the money and have gotten nothing in return. Im not sure what most of you think, but as far as I know this is a closed thread. I have supplied all information regaurding me sending Josh his money ect, if you need further confirmation please e-mail me, I will be gald to show you all scans and paper work for our transaction.

Now I have no hard feeling on this matter as I said I believe it is done. Please everyone who has read this read know I DID NOT Ripp anyone off and I am a totaly legit person. I would like to say thank you to all my fellow DSMer's in my local club for stickin up for me, and for anyone who knows me, knows what I am all about. I will have no hard feeling towards any of you, or fellow DSMer's, please lets move on and take it by day.

Reguards,

Chris

Sorry guys took a little vacation to Niagra could not keep you informed of our little situation.

1) still no e-mail of the photocopied "MO" that cgris "sent"

2) i recieved an e-mail from a "guy" by the name of sean reese. This "guy" gave me a tracking number that did not work, the operator said this number does not have a package to it. So i then began to get a little suspicious, like if they are trying to stall me. So i wrote back and asked who i thought was his father, and he said i am not chris's dad???? Well then i replied back, who are you then?
No answer back.

3)So i decided that this is all too easy to figure out
i got fucked. Its simple.
he wont send me a photo copy of all the paper work .
-his buisy schedule seems to be effecting this deal
-He is too buisy to check the board but he isnt to check his e-mail.
-He has some no namer e-mailing me and wont tell me who he is
-and the tracking number did not even match
-The envelope was sent directly to my house with my HOME address. Why isnt it here then.
- The name on the envelope does not mean anything, you could put a nick name on there for the name but as long as it has your address it will come to what ever address is on the envelope.

You see what i have to work with, and see how this story is way to suspicious?
That is my reason for giving up. So Chris have fun with the hundred dollars because i obviously know i am getting nothing out of you.

I have been told my nose doesn't belong in this, but since everyone else is entitle to voice their opinions, I suppose I should be able to also.

This situation sucks!! You have one guy, supposedly honest, lots of guys standing up for him, but his reputation has been damaged. You have another guy, supposedly innocent, but he is out $100. This is lose-lose.....these transactions are supposed to be win-win.....

Josh raised a couple more questions...apparently the tracking number he was given isn't valid. Perhaps it was for the package with the actual goods that changed hands? Perhaps that tracking number was wiped out so long after the package was delivered? Apparently this money order was sent separately and later. Who is Sean Rees? Who sent the money? Are the documents Chris has about the package for the goods, or for the money? And instead of making them available to the whole world in an effort to save a reputation, how about just taking a few minutes and making the necessary information available to Josh and getting this settled.....Then Chris would have his reputation intact and unquestioned, and Josh would have his $100......win-win....the way it SHOULD be!!

You know what i have had it with this situation.
And ziggy when you say "You have another guy, supposedly innocent, but he is out $100. " ??????
I am the innocent one. I'm out $100 dollars. So i almost want to say its a win loose situation, cause as of right now and the lack of info the chris has given me and the false info the unknown guy has given me, he wins with a 100 bucks and i loose with -100 bucks.
So this really just isnt going to happen now is it Chris, its getting stupid now, and this thread even started little verbal fights.

Oh and chris i am not out to kill your rep, im here to warn people that they too may be in my position and be out money if dealing with you. And the worse thing is that i thought you would have proved me wrong by now, because this is like going on 1 1/2 months.

I raised alot of good points, which i might add i have not revieved the answers to. Nor any of the paper work i asked for.

Josh

Well Josh, what I say..apperently you e-mailed me...and I never recived it. So I then got my cusin to e-mail you for me since I couldnt ahold of you. I said FOUR TIMES, if anyone wants the scans to e-mail me. You have done none of that, I haven't heard from you in over 3 weeks....Josh like ive said time and time agian, ive done my part, I sent you your money done deal.

Chris

That's it I'm tired of this sh!t.

1) still no e-mail of the photocopied "MO" that cgris "sent"

that's probably because he still hasn't recieved an email from you, or a phone call.


2) i recieved an e-mail from a "guy" by the name of sean reese. This "guy" gave me a tracking number that did not work, the operator said this number does not have a package to it. So i then began to get a little suspicious, like if they are trying to stall me. So i wrote back and asked who i thought was his father, and he said i am not chris's dad???? Well then i replied back, who are you then?
No answer back.

The "guy" was me, SHANE (not fracking Sean )and by the way there's no 'e' on the end of the last name either.

I gave you the tracking number, now that it's been over a month Canada Post clears both the tracking number and signatures from there records, ask them, that's why I told you it was delivered on May 13.

Yes you wrote back, after I sent you an email telling you that I was not Chris's dad, asking me who I was, I told you I know Chris, and if any body would like me to post my email's to/from Josh let me know I've got all of them. You the sent me a reply of:

"Comment: Dont get in buisness if your not part of it"

WTF is that, you don't seem to mind when people are bashing Chris, but when somebody is trying to help both of you out, you pull that sh!t?

Was I supposed to reply back to you after that?
Did you send Ziggy an email like that?


I'm not done, see the next post

3)So i decided that this is all too easy to figure out
i got fucked. Its simple.


Actually if you listen to Chris's side of the story, knowing Chris, it sound's like your trying like hell to frack him.


he wont send me a photo copy of all the paper work .

Again, you still haven't emailed him, or called him, you have both his email address, and phone number, fingers broken?


-his buisy schedule seems to be effecting this deal

Apparently you don't understand what it's like to play competative sports, don't comment on it then.


-He is too buisy to check the board but he isnt to check his e-mail.
-He has some no namer e-mailing me and wont tell me who he is

I told you who I was, I also told you to ask the club members both here and on the Calgary board who I was if you had a problem with not knowing my rep. or who I was, and you didn't do either.


-and the tracking number did not even match

didn't match what?


-The envelope was sent directly to my house with my HOME address. Why isnt it here then.
- The name on the envelope does not mean anything, you could put a nick name on there for the name but as long as it has your address it will come to what ever address is on the envelope.

Well, If it was sent to your house directly, Chris has the scan from Canada post's website saying it was delievered, maybe you should check your house. See now why it looks like your trying to frack Chris?

again see my next post

So if this works here is the scan of the tracking from Canda Post's web site.

Perhaps it was for the package with the actual goods that changed hands? Perhaps that tracking number was wiped out so long after the package was delivered? Apparently this money order was sent separately and later.

No this is not the tracking number for the body kit, it was sent about a month earlier, if it's possible, check the for sale on this board back into march/april.

again after 30days (1month) Canada post clears their records ( ask them if in doubt)

so yes the M/O was sent seperate from the body kit.

I still find it funny that Josh sent Chris an email, telling him not to worry about the $100 near the end of may, and then turns around and starts pulling this kinda crap?

Doesn't that sound kinda funny? Want me to post that email also?

Ok... first i never told chris not to worry about it. what i said was not to worry, dont rush, you dont need to send it express, just stick it and lick it then send it.

Second who might you be, i havnt figured that out yet... Excuse me if this is rude for saying but are you Chris with a different account.

Next... The main question is were is the MO? is there a possiblility you messed up on the adress.
Look at my position, I mean i have a right to be suspicious.

Also you should have recieved a copy that says were it was mailed to. incase you might have put 161 north shore instead of 151???

!!! WOW !!!Looks like Ziggy is a private investigator with all the quetions and insight & such, chris's rep is fuct, and Josh got punked! As the world turns boys, these are the days of our lives!Josh i feel bad for you, chris you too!
Shane your possibly the most pissed off newbie i've seen, all for 100 bones!! Josh my 2 cents is suck it up and don't deal with the dood anymore!!or fly to calgary, rent a car and drive 20 minutes north to airdrie and try to whip his ass!

Only if i could afford it, i think im about 100 dollars short to do that
Hey Jeff dont you forget how many times have i said pretty much that i give up and frack it. Enough times, i mean look up at the other posts. I'd love to see you get punked off, cause you wouldnt be too happy.

And yeah Ziggy does want to know everything, and i have kept him up to date!

Ok... first i never told chris not to worry about it. what i said was not to worry, dont rush, you dont need to send it express, just stick it and lick it then send it.


hmm, I might interpt this wrong along with just about everybody else here but what does the last sentence read?

Hey Jeff,

Sorry to everybody who does not know me here, I've been around for a few years, but never signed up, various reasons, mainly b/s like this. I see how it looks that I'm a pissed off nube, it takes a big push to put me this far.

It pisses me off when somebody is allowed to thrash on somebody, all the while being full of sh!t, Josh has Chris's home phone number, his email, and say's he's tried to contact Chris, yet nobody in Chris's house has heard from him. Then I try to help both of them settle this and Josh goes off on me, and then starts lieing saying that I never emailed him back. When in reality world, I did, I told him what he wanted, told him to ask other people who I was ( which he still hasn't, yet still questions if I'm Chris ) and then sends me an email basically telling me to butt the hell out.

yes i said lets forget about the whole being pist off and NOT go our seperate ways, because his previous e-mail said lets just go our seperate ways. It DOES NOT say anything about dont worry about the money order, just take your time, but i didnt think that would be 1 1/2 months.

AND again who are you???? i know your chris with a differnt user name, where is chris? so i guess chris has the time to talk to you to do his dirty buisness but cant have time to say it himself?

Also you should have recieved a copy that says were it was mailed to. incase you might have put 161 north shore instead of 151???


ever sent a registered letter Josh?
Canada post does not give you a copy of where it's sent, just a tracking number.

Have you Checked at ITL yet to see if Canada post redirected there? How bout at 161 north shore?

If you wouldn't have been such a punk to me, I'd have probably sent ya the cash myself, because I am that type of person. I hate seeing people get screwed, but I also completely trust Chris, I know he sent the money, now Canada trust on the other hand I wouldn't put it past them to screw up. All you've done with your emails/posts to me/about me is make me distrust you.

AND again who are you???? i know your chris with a differnt user name, where is chris?


frack are you really that thick?
Check out the Calgary phone book if you'd like, I'm in there, give me a shout so I can yell at ya over the phone

All i can say now sean is look at my position... ok fine you shown me all the records, but no MO?? Should i be suspicious? YES.

Ok again who are you?
See you are just as bad as chris at answering questions??

And if i were nicer you would have sent me the money?? Hmmmmm come on now, you must have very and i mean very close ties with chris if you were going to do that

Ohh and sean sorry i missed one of your posts.
Yes i wanted you to butt out! Why??? maybe because this is between me and chris.
And he is too buisy to e-mail me and to check the boared, so he will be way to buisy to talk as well. so i guess thats why you are here.

See chris i mean sean, u just made the situation 100X worse. so congradulations. Let chris deal with his own buisness.
I also said this matter is over, you both can have the money, who ever you are, and have fun.
I have done nothing but the right things here, i have done all the advice everyone has told me to do, and i have not gone crying to someone to bail me out like chris.


This matter is done

This thread is fucked up...and I don't see any end in sight.

If either of the main characters in this story cares to close this off...please email admin@ca.dsm.org with the details.

Funny thing is, Chris has made another post for a UIC pipe that he is selling.

If he did screw you or not, his reputation on this board is still fucked up and no body in their right mind that have read this post will buy anything from him....so he might as well delete that UIC pipe post in the clasified section.

So its a loss for both of you guys.

Shawn

This is still all a big pile of B.S.

Shane, I took your advice and checked dates. Chris posted these body kits for sale on May 5. The receipt you posted was for a package shipped May 8th. So, in 3 days, (co-incidentally the length of time Josh said it took till Chris shipped the goods),the original package had been shipped, received half way across the country, it was decided $100. was owing, and the money was shipped....a money order by parcel post....right.....and I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.....

That record was OBVIOUSLY for the original goods sent! Secondly, why the hell would a money order have been sent as a package? Especially after Josh said it was no big rush? Why wouldn't you just stick it in an envelope and mail it? I ship a LOT of stuff, and it makes NO sense to send a Money Order as a package! Finally, how about posting a copy of the receipt portion of the money order??? THAT could be traced, and, if it hasn't been cashed, then it could be replaced...Josh could get his $100. and Chris could salvage most of his reputation.......
or are you guys going to continue to just B.S.?

This would have been so much easier if the questions i asked were answered at the start, and still to this day they arent.
DO NOT close tis thread yet. I thank ziggy, but i want what ziggy asked for to be showed and answered because ziggy knows a hell of alot mor about this stuff then i do..

PLEASE just answer the questions, post what is asked of you, and yes stop the BS... this is rediculous.

Just stop the bull, stop playing games and just get me what ziggy brought up and have this over so i can bring your name back up to par Chris.

Please and thankyou, i mean that lets just end this

JOSH

Ziggy, I know you think you know everything on this earth, but you sure as hell do not. When sending ANYTHING "express" mail it is automaticly insured by Canada Post. Thats why it is considered a package, you get the same coverage and same type of tracking number as you would reciving any package.

And as for my UIC I could give a sh!t less who looks at it or anything of that matter. If you people choice to belive this retard and he know it all friend when all eveidence has been shown, that is your own loss.

Chris

Relax Chris your not helping yourself.
how about instead of flipping out you answer the QUESTIONS ASKED!!!!!!!!

What do i have to do to make you answer them???
this is crazy enough with the games, lets get this stupid sh!t over with. Come on Chris just be the bigger man here and get your rep back, you are a good guy now show everyone that.